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    Quote (shimmer @ Jan. 17 2011,19:43)Hi.A family member was saying today that he believes in the rapture. That before the tribulation, Gods people will be taken away, will meet Jesus in the air, and that after that, all who are left behind will live in the evilest time ever known.However I believe from scripture that Gods people will have to go…[Read more]

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    Quote (Baker @ Feb. 01 2011,20:09)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 04 2011,17:56)Georg,Philo of Alexander was more aware of the culture and way that Jesus, Paul, and other Jews of his time thought than you do.  It is only the arrogant that ignore the cultural context of scripture as it is clearly written that Paul would be a Jew to a Jew and a Gentile to a…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 18 2011,20:27)Barley,Thank you for what you have written.  I plan to take some time to think on it.Kerwin,Maybe some of the following will help sort some of this out.Logos is a word meaning,” a communication, or message, or the thoughts behind the words used”  Let us consider “the thoughts behind the words used”Ie,  words us…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 18 2011,20:27)Barley,Thank you for what you have written.  I plan to take some time to think on it.Kerwin,You are welcome.barley

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    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2010,20:51)Deut.6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: YHVH GOD is One!FATHER:The Wordknown in us believers ofHolySpirit“!Luke 8:5…11 A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it. And some fell upon a rock; and as…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 21 2010,18:00)To All,This is an interpretation of John 1:1-18 based on the New International Version of Scripture I would like to hear tested according to godly principles.In the following interpretation Emanuel = God with us.Quote 1 In the beginning was the Spirit of God, and the Spirit of God was with God, and the Spirit of…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 10 2011,03:55)What Jesus was saying is that God Himself called mere human beings “gods”, so why are you flipping out because I said I'm God's Son?”God” is simply a title D.  It means “ruler”.  And Jesus didn't even go as far as saying he WAS a “ruler”, only that he was the Son of THE RULER.You say these people who God H…[Read more]

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    Quote (Baker @ Nov. 15 2010,09:15)Hi shimmer!  When you love someone and can't forgive them when they do something wrong, you really did not love that person to begin with.  On this website, IMo members are having a hard time to love each other.  When I see that they get personal with a member, it really tuns me off. It is the great Commandment th…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 10 2010,15:12)To all,On Nov. 08 2010,06:26 Mike Boll posted to the Preexistence thread in the Traditions forum:Quote Well, I was reading in 2 Cor today and found this:2 Corinthians 8:8-9 NIV8 I am not commanding you, but I want to test the sincerity of your love by comparing it with the earnestness of others. 9 For you know…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 25 2010,08:58)Mike,I think that the trouble you are having is in understanding that the Son humbled Himself to the Father and took on the form of a servant.Phil 2:77 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. NASUSo, was He always a bond-servant of God's or did He take the…[Read more]

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    barley replied to the topic Hell in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (childofthelight @ May 27 2003,18:29)Hey guys, glad you bring this up.  I am going through doctrinal discussions with my friend who is a “jehovah's” witness and they don't believe in an eternal Hell either.I have found the following scriptures which, several coming from Christ, are enough to convince me of eternal, conscious, fiery torment.…[Read more]

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    barley replied to the topic Hell in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (echad @ Nov. 26 2002,16:37)More power to you, don't preach it! (LOL) Besides the scriptural points you have made, we must consider how ludicrous the proposition is that God would allow sinners to experience conscious torment FOREVER for the sins of a short lifetime on earth. Above all, God is “just”.  How could ANYONE accumulate enough…[Read more]

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    barley replied to the topic Hell in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 26 2002,08:26)I actually do not believe that God will punish rebellious creatures for all eternity. I do not preach this yet as I am in the stages of praying and thinking about the truth here. But as it stands right now, I do not believe in eternal punishment for the following reasons: What does the word perish mean?? Look up the…[Read more]

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    barley replied to the topic Hell in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (echad @ Nov. 24 2002,23:21)Sunny,I agree…”the wages of sin are death”, not “eternal torment” – the lake of fire is the “second DEATH”. What do you mean by the “serpent seed”? Are you talking about the Arnold Murray teaching?Correct!

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    barley replied to the topic Hell in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (sunnyb @ Sep. 03 2002,12:02)in I John 1:5, the bible says that “God is light and in him is no darkness at all”.  I cannot figure out how then we can attribute a place of suffering for anything other than the spirits under lucifers control and people's spirits born of lucifers seed.  We are basically come in this life to make a descison as t…[Read more]

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    barley replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 16 2010,13:33)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 16 2010,05:16)No it doesn't change the meaning at all.Are you blind?  One says YHVH will be a sanctuary and a stumbling stone to Israel and Judah.  Kind of a contradiction, eh?The other says IF YOU TRUST IN YVHV, He will be your sanctuary and you WON'T stumble on the stone he p…[Read more]

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    barley replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 21 2010,09:03)JA:Quote Mike,Only two questions…Jesus is directly created from God, you say,…so he is God from God.And, you say, God created the Angels through Jesus.1) What higher glory can a God from God have?2) If Jesus is God from God, how would anyone want to compare him to that which he had a hand in creating -…[Read more]

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    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 16 2010,17:44)John 10:30 “I and my Father are one.”-:33 “The Jews answred him, saying, for a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.1)So the jews believe that Jesus was saying that he was God?2)Was Jesus saying that he was one with God?3)what was a “Son…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 26 2010,12:53)Many people use Titus 2:13 as a trinity or “Jesus is God” proof text……..but is it really?  Let's get to the bottom of Titus 2:13 and be done with it.  Here's what the Jehovah's Witnesses and their sources say:In this place we find two nouns connected by καί (kai, “and”), the first noun being prece…[Read more]

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    Quote (dee @ Nov. 16 2010,20:04)Hello.Satan knows Jesus isn't God.  God cannot be tempted. Jesus was tempted. Therefore, Jesus cannot be God.Amen!barley

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