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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 13 2007,16:30)94You say…Quote Joh 6:46Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is * of God, he hath seen the Father.But my understanding of this verse is that he did not see him visibly otherwise it would contradict the following scripture:This is exactly what I wrote about in the previous post. That…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ June 13 2007,12:41)Quote (lamontre @ June 13 2007,03:03)Thought I would post this here;  :) Has anyone seen God or not?Exodus 24:9-11, Exodus 33:11; Exodus 6:2-3, John 1:18Has seen (Gen. 17:1) – “Now when Abram was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to Abram and said to him, “I am God Almighty ; Walk before Me, and be blam…[Read more]

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    barley replied to the topic Salvation in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 18 2010,04:33)-martian ……….Good points, barely, have you ever considered that the words Just (is implying the justified) and the word Un-Just is implies the un-justified and act of being in the position of something.  We are told the Just live By Faith in Christ, not by their works of righteousness. Just wanted…[Read more]

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    Quote (Cato @ July 24 2009,01:31)Thank You Theodore, respectful, thoughtful dialogue is what I expect from your posts and I see that this hasn't changed.As to the issue, if God is perfect and infallible, and he designed and created man, then man's imperfections and faults were evidently part of the design and quite predictable.  In other words,…[Read more]

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    Quote (Cato @ July 23 2009,22:15)What judgements were made?  I asked a question.  Is God infallible?  I believe he is, I believe God is incapable of mistake: he is all knowing, all powerfull.  As such he would have no grief or regret for everything he does is good and with purpose.  Yet Genesis clearly expresses that God regreted making man and…[Read more]

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    Quote (Cato @ July 23 2009,01:15)Many view God as Omnipotent and Omniscient, in short perfect and infallible, yet the writer/s of Genesis seem to disagree.  It is clear in Gen 6:6-7  The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain. So the LORD said, “I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the f…[Read more]

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    barley replied to the topic Co equal in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 06 2006,05:45)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 05 2006,11:47)Hi Is 1.18, Is God greater than you in any and all senses?Is God greater than the Son of God Jesus Christ. Jesus said he was.That excludes them sharing the same being, God as surely God could not have unequal parts?So where is the equality?Is your father greater than you in…[Read more]

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    barley replied to the topic Co equal in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 05 2006,15:38)Quote (Sammo @ May 05 2006,05:31)What I meant was, that even if Joseph and Pharaoh were 'co-equal' in the sense that they were both men (as Jesus might be co-equal to God in the sense that they were of the same 'kind'), they certainly weren't 100% the same being (as Jesus and the Father are said to both be 100%…[Read more]

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    barley replied to the topic Co equal in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (malcolm ferris @ May 05 2006,13:58)True, trueRev 22 is often used to support the idea that Jesus is co-equal, supposedly the Throne of God and the Lamb is proof of this.I would venture to say that it is a joint throne but not co-equality.The twenty four elders spoken of in the book of Revelation have their thrones as well.  In the KJV, it…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2010,20:51)Deut.6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: YHVH GOD is One!FATHER:The Wordknown in us believers ofHolySpirit“!Luke 8:5…11 A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it. And some fell upon a rock; and as…[Read more]

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    barley replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 20 2010,01:27)barely…………I am going to slow this down. First there is (NO) scripture that says we have a free will (IN) us. Now the rem free will is to say it is a will that is (FREE) , So if we consider the word free attached to our wills, then that is to say our will are free of any influences of any kind, but…[Read more]

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    barley replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (barley @ July 20 2010,12:15)Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2010,11:20)Quote (chosenone @ July 19 2010,05:53)Here is a rather lengthly article on so-salled “free will”. His Achievement Are WePart OneOUR SAVIOUR GOD  GOD ALONE is our Saviour. Through Isaiah, He declares, “I, I, Yahweh am El ! And there is no Saviour apart from Me” (Isa.43:11). He i…[Read more]

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    barley replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2010,11:20)Quote (chosenone @ July 19 2010,05:53)Here is a rather lengthly article on so-salled “free will”. His Achievement Are WePart OneOUR SAVIOUR GOD  GOD ALONE is our Saviour. Through Isaiah, He declares, “I, I, Yahweh am El ! And there is no Saviour apart from Me” (Isa.43:11). He is the Subjector and the Savi…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 19 2010,14:27):D I'd be happy if they just told me where their #3 god was supposed to sit.  You know, their #3 god who wasn't even added to their “trinity” until 55 years AFTER the Nicene Creed.Yet, supposedly scripture makes it abundantly clear that the holy spirit has always been God.   ??? Why did they leave him out for 55 y…[Read more]

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    barley replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 18 2010,13:47)barley……. You have completely misunderstood what i was saying.  So you are saying Jesus was lying when He said ” (NO) man can come unto me (EXCEPT) the Father DRAW HIM. In you belief you would say that was a lie because You believe WE BY our (non Scriptural) FREE WILL Chose GOD on OUR Own. The work of…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 18 2010,11:48)Quote (barley @ July 18 2010,08:27)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 08 2010,15:58)Hi All,Maybe someone can shed some insight on something I've been wondering.In Rev, Jesus says he's been granted to sit on the Father's throne with Him, and we will be granted to sit on his with him.Quote Revelation 3:21 NIV To him who…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 19 2010,10:41)TO ALL:I cannot use Barnes' Notes in my debate with Mikeboll because our rules require that we each provide the link to our sources. I cannot find Barnes Notes online so I provide the information from my books here.Barnes on Genesis 1:26 says:“The plural form of the sentence raises the question, With whom…[Read more]

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    barley replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 18 2010,06:18)barley…………..Man separate of God will never chose God's will on his own. Jesus even said (NO) man (CAN) come unto me unless the Father draw Him. God must (cause ) us to desire Him, So unto each he gives a (measure) of Faith (trust in him).  Many think (their wills are Free, But that are not. Here…[Read more]

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    barley replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (chosenone @ July 18 2010,05:59)“The myth of free will”, posted by gollamudi, makes some very good points.  I believe this article hits the nail on the head.  We do not have free will.  We do not control our destiny.  “All is of god” (Ro.11:36)   …seeing that out of Him and through Him and for Him is all: to Him be the glory for the eons…[Read more]

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    barley replied to the topic Salvation in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ July 16 2010,14:56)Quote (barley @ July 12 2010,12:29)Quote (Ed J @ June 22 2010,11:54)Quote (barley @ June 22 2010,10:58)Romans 10:9-10.  That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.           For with the heart man believeth unto…[Read more]

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