I can understand that, but I believe scripture where it says that this forever (age) comes to and end and will be no more and will not even come into remembrance.

Part of the great hope I have is that there will be a new heaven and earth, no more sin, no more sinners, no more crying, no more pain, for God has done away with the former things.…[Read more]

But I do believe that the wicked are thrown into the Second Death for eternity. It is Hell that is not eternal, as we are clearly taught in Revelation that it is put into the Second Death. We are further told that it is the same fire that burns up the heavens and earth. So how come people ignore that. And we are not to add nor take away from the…[Read more]

You once posted a message by CS Lewis that he thought the universe was cruel and then he thought how was it that he knew cruel anyway?

Well think about it. Let’s imagine one-third of mankind is saved and the other two-thirds are destined to suffer in the flames of Hell for eternity, a sort of opposite stat from that of the angels, of whom…[Read more]

Forever is the word age. And yes we inherit life where we can live throughout the ages. But the wicked are denied living throughout the ages. And God spared man from ever living forever as sinners according to Genesis. Know when to apply age as an eternal sense is context as you say.
As for the wicked, the context is always that the righteous…[Read more]

In keeping a good conscience before God, I cannot ignore the clear teaching in scripture that says that the earth, heavens and hell, and wicked suffer the second death and that God makes everything new where the old is passed away and there is no more pain, crying, suffering. This is after all taught in scripture and at the end of the day, we do…[Read more]

BTW, that book is one of my all time favourites and I have it online here:
http://www.heaven.net.nz/writings/pilgrimsprogress.htm

Also, it is possible that the wicked may think they are going to burn for all eternity because I doubt that they know much about scripture and they probably die with the traditional view of an eternal Hell. After all, it is the predominate view today, and was the view way back in Babylon too. I mean who among them know that Hell will be cast into…[Read more]

This man is in hell and scripture clearly says that hell is thrown into the lake of fire which is the second death. When exactly is hell thrown into the second death, after the Millennial reign. So this man is in Hell before the Second Death and will be there for some time to come.

The word forever actually means for an age and forever and ever…[Read more]

Yeah the older the video the better because it shows he had less cues to imagine it himself.

I have often thought this myself. We understand that something is wrong with the world, so where does that come from if we were born into the world and know nothing else.

And if Evolution would have us accept survival of the fittest is how we got to be human, then where do we get the idea that killing is wrong when that is contradictory to the…[Read more]

That is a very wise saying.

I was not aware of this and will look into it. The oldest scripts, ‘The Dead Sea Scrolls’ do not have it and as you say neither does the The Codex Sinaiticus.

If what you say is correct about Ignatius, it does open the possibility that if this was the view of Ignatius, he could have inspired a scribe to change later on. Then again it also opens…[Read more]

I agree with your above post DavidL. And this is what the baptism of the Spirit is about. It is about always being connected to God by a joining of our spirit with his.

Our spirits bear witness with God’s spirit that we are the sons of God.

If you agree that the wicked are cut off from God, then how are they alive? By what spirit do they obtain this eternal life in Hell? And if this is by God’s spirit, then God is in Hell and dwelling in sinners. Sure sinners live, but by the grace of God they have the Pneuma/spirit. But this is not eternal life or the eternal baptism of the Spirit…[Read more]

David, the soul that sins will die is not just earth based. And if these verses meant they will be no more (On Earth) then why not just say that.

The truth is that death on earth is only temporal because the wicked will be raised again at the resurrection. Death in the Lake of Fire (the Second Death) on the other hand is eternal and not…[Read more]

These will be the very verses I will provide answers to in the next page (Part 3).

Man began to die yes. But it was some time after that Adam died. If Adam died immediately, then what do you call it when he passed away?

Thanks David. I am going to write a third page which deals with your concerns in this post.

It will be called something like,
“Scriptures used to support eternal suffering in Hell”.

Matthew 7:13,14
“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.”

Clearly the righteous inherit eternal life. But the traditional view which you support wou…[Read more]

A new page has been added to this teaching. It lists scriptures that contradict the idea that Hell is an eternal abode of wicked living souls who suffer for all eternity in fire.

See it here:

https://heavennet.net/writings/is-hell-eternal-part-2/