It also says the Spirit of God, not God the Holy Spirit. Scripture doesn’t ever say, ‘God the Holy Spirit’. Trinitarians need to introduce terms and words that do not exist in scripture because scripture doesn’t describe the ideas that they have.

My personal view on this is that the Spirit came down upon Christ in bodily form, i.e., in the form of a man, but that it descended gracefully in the same manner as a dove.

Cheers Paul. It amazes me too that many scriptures are not believed. It just proves that tradition nullifies the power of God because it is often in opposition to truth.

@ DavidL,
You say, “Eternal life is…
Knowing Father AND Son together..!!
not just Father – but TWO as ONE..!!”.

Jesus said, “eternal life is this, to know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he has sent”.

I noticed how you sneakily say this is about the Father and the Son which is true, but it actually says, God and his son which is…[Read more]

Jesus said, “this is eternal life, that you may know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he has sent.

Obviously Jesus Christ taught differently to you. And as for the baptismal formula, please read this page:

Matthew 28:19

If you do not believe that the Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD, then you have the wrong meaning.

You have an opposite conclusion which you say derives from the context. Here is your view and mine. Yours is a) and mine is b):

a) “Eternal life is this, to know the only true God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit”.
b) “Eternal life is this,…[Read more]

I have a true view of it. It is non-scriptural, that is the truth. Scripture should override any doctrine of man. Except for the Trinity so it seems.

The best response we give you is scripture. That is truly the best. Traditions of men fail.

Here is the best:
“This is eternal life, that you may know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he has sent.”

And what were the words uttered by a bystander? “Truly he was the son of God”. He said this because this was the claim as to who he was. He never claimed to be God, thus no one said, “he is the one true God”.

I also notice that in your post this guy makes this quote:
“This in no way detracts from the mystery of the doctrine”.

Mystery Babylon, the Mother of all Harlots. She has made the whole world drunk on her wine.

We need to be found sober when our Lord returns. That is clear.

@ DavidL.
This is a joke DavidL. You offer us the mere wisdom of man and it as we expect fails miserably.

This guys teaching which you support actually supports any kind of God you want.

One God = infinite
Binity = 2 infinities.
Trinity = 3 infinities
Quadrinity = 4 infinities
Quinity = 5 infinities
Septinity = 6…[Read more]

If this site only offers biased information, then why are you allowed to teach false doctrine here? We allow it to provide all sides and views on scripture. Clearly you are wrong here. This site offers scripture, and you offer the usual tradition and doctrines of Babylon. And we allow you to even do that because all men are free to choose what…[Read more]

Jesus said, “Eternal life is this, to know the only true God, and Jesus Christ who he has sent”. This is scripture and you clearly oppose it.

This is what I teach and they are Jesus words, (not mine), and he is not a cheap car salesman.

“This is eternal life, that you may know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he has sent.”

My Lord corrects you with his words.

Jesus said unto them, “If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me”.

Jesus said, “”And this is eternal life, that they may know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent,”.

Jesus also said, “But you do not believe because you are not of My s…[Read more]

DavidL, you can give me the so-called perfect mathematical illustration, shape, diagram, wooden sculpture or whatever, but I just want to see scripture. My trust is in God, not man.

We both know you won’t get one.

As believers we do all in the name of Jesus to the glory of God the Father.

Others do things in other names, such their own name, Mary the Mother of God, a Babylonian God such as a trinity God, etc.

Our own understanding means nothing if it is not in scripture or contradicts scripture. Credit is given where credit is due. If you can probe it from scripture then good. But you have failed the scriptural test. We judge your doctrine with scripture and your doctrine is not there.

The Trinity is the answer you are looking for. It originated in Babylon. You cannot show one scripture that teaches the Trinity because its origin is not in scripture. So it originated elsewhere. And when you go back as far as you can, there is Babylon. Tamuz th son was even born on Dec 25.