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    abe
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    Hi,

    JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

    Jn.3:17   “For  God  did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.

    Jn.5:22   “For not even the  Father  judges anyone, but He has  Given all judgment to the Son,

    Jn.12:47   “If anyone hears My sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to Judge the world, but to save the world.
    48″He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who Judges him; the   Word   I spoke is what will Judge him at the last day.

    Rev.5:12   Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to Receive   *power*,   and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

    1Cor.1:24   But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the  *power*   of God, and the wisdom of God.

    1Cor.1:18   For the   Word   of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the  *power* of God.

    Peace…………………………

    Ex.23:13   “Now concerning everything which I have said to you, be on your guard; and do not mention the name of other gods, nor let them be heard from your mouth.

    #357358
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 10 2013,13:14)

    Quote (abe @ Sep. 11 2013,02:54)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 10 2013,07:26)
    abe

    Quote
    Who are the unbelieving?

    please tell me ;in your own words ,what the scriptures says ;

    then ;

    who are the BELIEVERS ;???  also in your own words but scriptures support ;

    let see if you really know anything ???


    T,

    Quote
    Who are the unbelieving?

    You didn't answer the question.

    (Quote)
    please tell me ;in your own words ,what the scriptures says

    Proverbs 30:6
    Do not add to his words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a   Liar.

    Peace………………

    And ye shall be on your guard as to everything that I have said unto you; and shall make no mention of the name of other gods it shall not be heard in thy mouth.     Ex.23:13……………….


    abe

    are you trying to teach me ??? in your own way ???

    with your misguided views ,and poor communication skills ???

    if so ,yes that would be a good reason for me to ask you first a return question .

    but i will not force you to answer me ;

    but again if you are convince that i do not know scriptures and prove it by my quotes to anyone on this site ,please be free to show me ,and may God almighty help you to guide me to the truth in his word ,

    but if not ;then why do you not answering my questions ???

    ego ???


    T,

    2Cor.4:3   And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to   Those   who are perishing,
    4  in whose case the *god of this world* has   Blinded   the Minds of the *Unbelieving*   so that they might not See   the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

    in whose case the *god of this world* has   Blinded   the Minds of the *Unbelieving*

    Quote
    Who are the unbelieving?

    You Still didn't answer the question. Try to use Scripture, if that is possible for you?

    Peace…….

    And ye shall be on your guard as to everything that I have said unto you; and shall make no mention of the name of other gods it shall not be heard in thy mouth.     Ex.23:13……………….

    #357347
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 10 2013,07:26)
    abe

    Quote
    Who are the unbelieving?

    please tell me ;in your own words ,what the scriptures says ;

    then ;

    who are the BELIEVERS ;???  also in your own words but scriptures support ;

    let see if you really know anything ???


    T,

    Quote
    Who are the unbelieving?

    You didn't answer the question.

    (Quote)
    please tell me ;in your own words ,what the scriptures says

    Proverbs 30:6
    Do not add to his words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a   Liar.

    Peace………………

    And ye shall be on your guard as to everything that I have said unto you; and shall make no mention of the name of other gods it shall not be heard in thy mouth.     Ex.23:13……………….

    #357256
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 09 2013,15:12)
    abe

    you should apply all those scriptures ,YOU SHOW THAT YOU BADLY NEEDED ,


    T,

    2Cor.4:3   And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to   Those   who are perishing,
    4  in whose case the *god of this world* has   Blinded   the Minds of the *Unbelieving*   so that they might not See   the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

    in whose case the *god of this world* has   Blinded   the Minds of the *Unbelieving*

    Who are the unbelieving?

    6  Yet to   us(Christians)   there is One God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we unto him; and One Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we through him.

    Peace………….

    And ye shall be on your guard as to everything that I have said unto you; and shall make no mention of the name of other gods it shall not be heard in thy mouth.     Ex.23:13……………….

    #357243
    abe
    Participant

    Hi,

    Ex.23:13   “Now concerning everything which I have said to you, be on your guard; and do not   Mention   the name of other gods, nor let them be heard from your mouth.

    hea•then (ˈhi ðən)

    n., pl. -thens, -then,
    adj. n.
    1. an unconverted individual of a people that do not acknowledge the God of the Bible or Koran; pagan.
    2. an irreligious, uncultured, or uncivilized person.
    adj.
    3. of or pertaining to heathens; pagan.
    4. irreligious, uncultured, or uncivilized.
    [before 900; Middle English hethen, Old English hǣthen, c. Old Saxon hēthin, Old High German heidan, Old Norse heithinn, Gothic haithno (feminine n.); probably akin to heath]
    hea′then•dom, n.
    hea′then•ism, n.
    hea′then•ize`, v.t., v.i. -ized, -iz•ing.
    hea′then•ness, n.
    syn: heathen, pagan are both applied to peoples who are not Christian, Jewish, or Muslim; these terms may also refer to irreligious peoples. heathen is often used of those whose religion is unfamiliar and therefore regarded as primitive, unenlightened, or uncivilized: heathen idols; heathen rites. pagan is most frequently used of the ancient Greeks and Romans who worshiped many deities: a pagan civilization.
    Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary, © 2010 K Dictionaries Ltd. Copyright 2005, 1997, 1991 by Random House, Inc. All rights reserved.

    Peace………………………..

    “Now concerning everything which I have said to you, be on your guard; and do not   Mention   the name of other gods, nor let them be heard from your mouth.Ex.23:13..

    #357240
    abe
    Participant

    Hi,

    Gal.6:14    But may it never be that I would boast, except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.

    Rom.6:3   Or do you not  Know   that all of us who have been Baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized *into His death?*
    4   Therefore we have been  'buried with Him’  through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.
    5  For if we have become united with [Him] in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be [in the likeness] of His resurrection,
    6  knowing this, that our old self was crucified with [Him], in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin;
    7  for he who has died is freed from sin.
    8  Now if we have   Died with Christ,   we believe that we shall also live with Him,
    9  knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, is never to die again;  Death no longer   is master over Him.  
    10  For the death that He died, He died to sin once  *for all*;  but the life that He lives, He lives to God.
    11Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus.

    2Cor.4:3   And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to   Those   who are perishing,
    4  in whose case the *god of this world* has   Blinded   the Minds of the *Unbelieving*   so that they might not See   the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

    1Cor.8:4   Concerning therefore the eating of things sacrificed to idols, we know that no idol is anything in the world, and that there is no God but *One*.
    5  For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or on earth; as there are gods many, and lords many;  6  Yet to   us(Christians)   there is One God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we unto him; and One Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we through him.

    Peace……………

    And ye shall be on your guard as to everything that I have said unto you; and shall make no mention of the name of other gods it shall not be heard in thy mouth.     Ex.23:13……………….

    #357236
    abe
    Participant

    Hi,

    Ex.23:13
    And ye shall be on your guard as to everything that I have said unto you; and shall make no mention of the name of other gods it shall not be heard in thy mouth.

    Peace……….

    And ye shall be on your guard as to everything that I have said unto you; and shall make no mention of the name of other gods it shall not be heard in thy mouth.Ex.23:13

    Peace…………………………

    #357004
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Sep. 03 2013,16:58)

    Quote (abe @ Sep. 04 2013,11:36)
    Hi,

    3 men go into a hotel. They ask how much for a room?  The desk clerk says 30 $. The men leave and go up to there room.

    The desk clerk tells the bell boy he overcharged the men! Take 5 $ and give it back to the men.

    The bell boy thinks, and says I will give them 3 $ back and keep 2 $ for myself.

    How much did each man pay for the room?

    9 $ correct…..Yes Abe.

    3×9=27  correct……..Yes Abe

    2 $ for the bellboy.

    27+2= 29……….Wheres the other dollar?

    Peace………….No I am not a god.


    I first read this riddle when I was about 8.  It was mainly this riddle that got me into riddles and paradoxes.  (Although this isn't a true paradox)

    I read dozens of riddle books and logic puzzle and paradox books as a kid.  (And, the odd magic book as well of course)


    Hi David,

    What is the Answer to the problem?

    Peace………….

    #356816
    abe
    Participant

    Hi,

    3 men go into a hotel. They ask how much for a room?  The desk clerk says 30 $. The men leave and go up to there room.

    The desk clerk tells the bell boy he overcharged the men! Take 5 $ and give it back to the men.

    The bell boy thinks, and says I will give them 3 $ back and keep 2 $ for myself.

    How much did each man pay for the room?

    9 $ correct…..Yes Abe.

    3×9=27  correct……..Yes Abe

    2 $ for the bellboy.

    27+2= 29……….Wheres the other dollar?

    Peace………….No I am not a god.

    #356809
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ Sep. 03 2013,15:07)

    Quote (942767 @ Sep. 02 2013,09:03)

    Quote (abe @ Sep. 02 2013,05:11)

    Quote (942767 @ Aug. 30 2013,15:57)

    Quote (abe @ Aug. 31 2013,09:45)

    Quote (942767 @ Aug. 30 2013,11:47)

    Quote (abe @ Aug. 30 2013,13:46)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 29 2013,06:54)
    Abe……..The man (our brother) Jesus does indeed have the Seven “EYES” of God which “ARE” the Seven Spirit of GOD, and he has them with the Seven “Horns” (POWERS), that go with them, and with these He shall execute Judgment with Power, in the Earth as the Messiah (anointed one by GOD)  When he returns to rule for a Thousand year Period, and it is God in truth ruling through Him by His Seven Spirit, and that is  exactly why it says ” Thy Kingdom “O GOD”,  is an “EVERLASTING” KINGDOM, It is the SEVEN Spirit of GOD in Jesus guiding His rule , Just like he said when he was on this earth < the SON of Man can do “NOTHING of HIMSELF”,the Father “IN” me “HE” doth the works.  The same hold true for his Kingdom rule, and that is why he turns it back to God at the end of the Millennial reign, and he (the man Jesus) becomes subject to it also just as we all will be , like it says

    Blessed are all who truly understand this Brother. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours brother……………………………gene


    Hi Gene,

    Is.48:16    Draw near to me, hear this:
    from the beginning I have not spoken in secret,
    from the time it came to be I have been there.”
    And now the Lord GOD has sent me, and his Spirit.

    Who do you think is talking here?

    Peace brother………….


    Hi Abe:

    I believe that God was stating that Cyrus was foreordained
    for the specific assignment of defeating babylonia.

    Quote
    Isa 48:14   All ye, assemble yourselves, and hear; which among them hath declared these [things]? The LORD hath loved him: he will do his pleasure on Babylon, and his arm [shall be on] the Chaldeans.  

    Isa 48:15   I, [even] I, have spoken; yea, I have called him: I have brought him, and he shall make his way prosperous.  

    Isa 48:16   Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there [am] I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

    Love in Christ
    Marty


    Hi Marty,

    Isa 48:16   Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there [am] I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

    from the time that it was, there [am] I: and  now  the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent  Me.

    the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent  Me.

    Who is doing the talking?

    Peace brother…………..


    HI Abe:

    The scripture seems to go from God speaking in verse 15 to Cyrus speaking in verse 16.

    That is the best explanation that I can come up with.  It isn't easy to understand.

    If you read from the 1st verse, it is understood that it is God who is speaking.  I am not a scholar and so I don't know, but it appears that the last part of verse 16 may be mistranslated.  It would make more sense if it would read: “and now the Lord God and His Spirit has sent him”.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Hi Marty,

    Is.49:1   Listen to Me, O islands, And pay attention, you peoples from afar. The LORD called Me from the womb; From the body of My mother He named Me.

    2  He has made My mouth like a sharp sword, In the shadow of His hand He has concealed Me; And He has also made Me a select arrow, He has hidden Me in His quiver.

    3  He said to Me, “You are My Servant, Israel, In Whom I will show My glory.”

    3   He   said to   ‘Me',    “You are My Servant,   *Israel*,   In Whom I will show My glory.”

    Ex.4:22   “Then you shall say to Pharaoh, 'Thus says the LORD,   “Israel   is My son, My    *Firstborn*.

    Heb.1:1   God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways,

    2  in these last days has spoken to us   IN   His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.

    Heb.12:22   But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to myriads of angels,

    23  to the general assembly and  Church   Of the  *Firstborn*   who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the Judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect,

    24  and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks better than the blood of Abel.

    Peace brother………


    Hi Abe:  

    God is speaking about Israel here, but about Cyrus in Isa 48:

    Quote
    Isa 48:14   All ye, assemble yourselves, and hear; which among them hath declared these [things]? The LORD hath loved him: he will do his pleasure on Babylon, and his arm [shall be on] the Chaldeans.  

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Yes, but the scriptures show to whom God or about whom He speaking regardless of this fact.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Hi Marty,

    Is.48:16    Draw near to me, hear this:
    from the beginning I have not spoken in secret,
    from the time it came to be I have been there.”
    And now the Lord GOD has sent me, and his Spirit.

    from the Beginning    I    have not spoken in secret,

    from the time it came    To Be    “I“    have   Been  there.”

    Why do you say this is Cyrus?

    Peace brother…

    #356796
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ Sep. 01 2013,14:03)

    Quote (abe @ Sep. 02 2013,05:11)

    Quote (942767 @ Aug. 30 2013,15:57)

    Quote (abe @ Aug. 31 2013,09:45)

    Quote (942767 @ Aug. 30 2013,11:47)

    Quote (abe @ Aug. 30 2013,13:46)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 29 2013,06:54)
    Abe……..The man (our brother) Jesus does indeed have the Seven “EYES” of God which “ARE” the Seven Spirit of GOD, and he has them with the Seven “Horns” (POWERS), that go with them, and with these He shall execute Judgment with Power, in the Earth as the Messiah (anointed one by GOD)  When he returns to rule for a Thousand year Period, and it is God in truth ruling through Him by His Seven Spirit, and that is  exactly why it says ” Thy Kingdom “O GOD”,  is an “EVERLASTING” KINGDOM, It is the SEVEN Spirit of GOD in Jesus guiding His rule , Just like he said when he was on this earth < the SON of Man can do “NOTHING of HIMSELF”,the Father “IN” me “HE” doth the works.  The same hold true for his Kingdom rule, and that is why he turns it back to God at the end of the Millennial reign, and he (the man Jesus) becomes subject to it also just as we all will be , like it says

    Blessed are all who truly understand this Brother. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours brother……………………………gene


    Hi Gene,

    Is.48:16    Draw near to me, hear this:
    from the beginning I have not spoken in secret,
    from the time it came to be I have been there.”
    And now the Lord GOD has sent me, and his Spirit.

    Who do you think is talking here?

    Peace brother………….


    Hi Abe:

    I believe that God was stating that Cyrus was foreordained
    for the specific assignment of defeating babylonia.

    Quote
    Isa 48:14   All ye, assemble yourselves, and hear; which among them hath declared these [things]? The LORD hath loved him: he will do his pleasure on Babylon, and his arm [shall be on] the Chaldeans.  

    Isa 48:15   I, [even] I, have spoken; yea, I have called him: I have brought him, and he shall make his way prosperous.  

    Isa 48:16   Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there [am] I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

    Love in Christ
    Marty


    Hi Marty,

    Isa 48:16   Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there [am] I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

    from the time that it was, there [am] I: and  now  the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent  Me.

    the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent  Me.

    Who is doing the talking?

    Peace brother…………..


    HI Abe:

    The scripture seems to go from God speaking in verse 15 to Cyrus speaking in verse 16.

    That is the best explanation that I can come up with.  It isn't easy to understand.

    If you read from the 1st verse, it is understood that it is God who is speaking.  I am not a scholar and so I don't know, but it appears that the last part of verse 16 may be mistranslated.  It would make more sense if it would read: “and now the Lord God and His Spirit has sent him”.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Hi Marty,

    Is.49:1   Listen to Me, O islands, And pay attention, you peoples from afar. The LORD called Me from the womb; From the body of My mother He named Me.

    2  He has made My mouth like a sharp sword, In the shadow of His hand He has concealed Me; And He has also made Me a select arrow, He has hidden Me in His quiver.

    3  He said to Me, “You are My Servant, Israel, In Whom I will show My glory.”

    3   He   said to   ‘Me',    “You are My Servant,   *Israel*,   In Whom I will show My glory.”

    Ex.4:22   “Then you shall say to Pharaoh, 'Thus says the LORD,   “Israel   is My son, My    *Firstborn*.

    Heb.1:1   God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways,

    2  in these last days has spoken to us   IN   His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.

    Heb.12:22   But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to myriads of angels,

    23  to the general assembly and  Church   Of the  *Firstborn*   who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the Judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect,

    24  and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks better than the blood of Abel.

    Peace brother………


    Hi Abe:  

    God is speaking about Israel here, but about Cyrus in Isa 48:

    Quote
    Isa 48:14   All ye, assemble yourselves, and hear; which among them hath declared these [things]? The LORD hath loved him: he will do his pleasure on Babylon, and his arm [shall be on] the Chaldeans.  

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Hi Marty,

    Wasn’t the original words separated into verses and chapters?

    Peace brother…………

    #356651
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ Aug. 30 2013,15:57)

    Quote (abe @ Aug. 31 2013,09:45)

    Quote (942767 @ Aug. 30 2013,11:47)

    Quote (abe @ Aug. 30 2013,13:46)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 29 2013,06:54)
    Abe……..The man (our brother) Jesus does indeed have the Seven “EYES” of God which “ARE” the Seven Spirit of GOD, and he has them with the Seven “Horns” (POWERS), that go with them, and with these He shall execute Judgment with Power, in the Earth as the Messiah (anointed one by GOD)  When he returns to rule for a Thousand year Period, and it is God in truth ruling through Him by His Seven Spirit, and that is  exactly why it says ” Thy Kingdom “O GOD”,  is an “EVERLASTING” KINGDOM, It is the SEVEN Spirit of GOD in Jesus guiding His rule , Just like he said when he was on this earth < the SON of Man can do “NOTHING of HIMSELF”,the Father “IN” me “HE” doth the works.  The same hold true for his Kingdom rule, and that is why he turns it back to God at the end of the Millennial reign, and he (the man Jesus) becomes subject to it also just as we all will be , like it says

    Blessed are all who truly understand this Brother. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours brother……………………………gene


    Hi Gene,

    Is.48:16    Draw near to me, hear this:
    from the beginning I have not spoken in secret,
    from the time it came to be I have been there.”
    And now the Lord GOD has sent me, and his Spirit.

    Who do you think is talking here?

    Peace brother………….


    Hi Abe:

    I believe that God was stating that Cyrus was foreordained
    for the specific assignment of defeating babylonia.

    Quote
    Isa 48:14   All ye, assemble yourselves, and hear; which among them hath declared these [things]? The LORD hath loved him: he will do his pleasure on Babylon, and his arm [shall be on] the Chaldeans.  

    Isa 48:15   I, [even] I, have spoken; yea, I have called him: I have brought him, and he shall make his way prosperous.  

    Isa 48:16   Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there [am] I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

    Love in Christ
    Marty


    Hi Marty,

    Isa 48:16   Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there [am] I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

    from the time that it was, there [am] I: and  now  the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent  Me.

    the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent  Me.

    Who is doing the talking?

    Peace brother…………..


    HI Abe:

    The scripture seems to go from God speaking in verse 15 to Cyrus speaking in verse 16.

    That is the best explanation that I can come up with.  It isn't easy to understand.

    If you read from the 1st verse, it is understood that it is God who is speaking.  I am not a scholar and so I don't know, but it appears that the last part of verse 16 may be mistranslated.  It would make more sense if it would read: “and now the Lord God and His Spirit has sent him”.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Hi Marty,

    Is.49:1   Listen to Me, O islands, And pay attention, you peoples from afar. The LORD called Me from the womb; From the body of My mother He named Me.

    2  He has made My mouth like a sharp sword, In the shadow of His hand He has concealed Me; And He has also made Me a select arrow, He has hidden Me in His quiver.

    3  He said to Me, “You are My Servant, Israel, In Whom I will show My glory.”

    3   He   said to   ‘Me',    “You are My Servant,   *Israel*,   In Whom I will show My glory.”

    Ex.4:22   “Then you shall say to Pharaoh, 'Thus says the LORD,   “Israel   is My son, My    *Firstborn*.

    Heb.1:1   God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways,

    2  in these last days has spoken to us   IN   His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.

    Heb.12:22   But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to myriads of angels,

    23  to the general assembly and  Church   Of the  *Firstborn*   who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the Judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect,

    24  and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks better than the blood of Abel.

    Peace brother………

    #356647
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ Aug. 24 2013,08:54)

    Quote (abe @ Aug. 25 2013,03:16)
    Hi Marty,

    Jn.5:37   And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

    Peace brother……


    Hi Abe:

    Thanks, but Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees.  We know that there were those who did hear God's voice at Mt. Sinai.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Hi Marty,

    (Quote)
    Thanks, but Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees.

    Why do you believe this? ……‘Only’  the Pharisees.

    Peace brother……

    #356526
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ Aug. 30 2013,11:47)

    Quote (abe @ Aug. 30 2013,13:46)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 29 2013,06:54)
    Abe……..The man (our brother) Jesus does indeed have the Seven “EYES” of God which “ARE” the Seven Spirit of GOD, and he has them with the Seven “Horns” (POWERS), that go with them, and with these He shall execute Judgment with Power, in the Earth as the Messiah (anointed one by GOD)  When he returns to rule for a Thousand year Period, and it is God in truth ruling through Him by His Seven Spirit, and that is  exactly why it says ” Thy Kingdom “O GOD”,  is an “EVERLASTING” KINGDOM, It is the SEVEN Spirit of GOD in Jesus guiding His rule , Just like he said when he was on this earth < the SON of Man can do “NOTHING of HIMSELF”,the Father “IN” me “HE” doth the works.  The same hold true for his Kingdom rule, and that is why he turns it back to God at the end of the Millennial reign, and he (the man Jesus) becomes subject to it also just as we all will be , like it says

    Blessed are all who truly understand this Brother. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours brother……………………………gene


    Hi Gene,

    Is.48:16    Draw near to me, hear this:
    from the beginning I have not spoken in secret,
    from the time it came to be I have been there.”
    And now the Lord GOD has sent me, and his Spirit.

    Who do you think is talking here?

    Peace brother………….


    Hi Abe:

    I believe that God was stating that Cyrus was foreordained
    for the specific assignment of defeating babylonia.

    Quote
    Isa 48:14   All ye, assemble yourselves, and hear; which among them hath declared these [things]? The LORD hath loved him: he will do his pleasure on Babylon, and his arm [shall be on] the Chaldeans.  

    Isa 48:15   I, [even] I, have spoken; yea, I have called him: I have brought him, and he shall make his way prosperous.  

    Isa 48:16   Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there [am] I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

    Love in Christ
    Marty


    Hi Marty,

    Isa 48:16   Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there [am] I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

    from the time that it was, there [am] I: and  now  the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent  Me.

    the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent  Me.

    Who is doing the talking?

    Peace brother…………..

    #356502
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 29 2013,06:54)
    Abe……..The man (our brother) Jesus does indeed have the Seven “EYES” of God which “ARE” the Seven Spirit of GOD, and he has them with the Seven “Horns” (POWERS), that go with them, and with these He shall execute Judgment with Power, in the Earth as the Messiah (anointed one by GOD)  When he returns to rule for a Thousand year Period, and it is God in truth ruling through Him by His Seven Spirit, and that is  exactly why it says ” Thy Kingdom “O GOD”,  is an “EVERLASTING” KINGDOM, It is the SEVEN Spirit of GOD in Jesus guiding His rule , Just like he said when he was on this earth < the SON of Man can do “NOTHING of HIMSELF”,the Father “IN” me “HE” doth the works.  The same hold true for his Kingdom rule, and that is why he turns it back to God at the end of the Millennial reign, and he (the man Jesus) becomes subject to it also just as we all will be , like it says

    Blessed are all who truly understand this Brother. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours brother……………………………gene


    Hi Gene,

    Is.48:16    Draw near to me, hear this:
    from the beginning I have not spoken in secret,
    from the time it came to be I have been there.”
    And now the Lord GOD has sent me, and his Spirit.

    Who do you think is talking here?

    Peace brother………….

    #356464
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 28 2013,19:01)
    Abe…………Good post brother, and yes the spirit of wisdom is indeed one of the seven spirits of God, it is the CHIFE of the seven spirits of God. IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours brother…………………………gene


    Hi Gene,

    The Lamb   HAS   the Seven Spirits.

    These are the   Beginning Spirits.  Created in the First Day.

    Archangels

    Arch
    757. archó
    758 >>

    archó: to rule, to begin
    Original Word: ἄρχω
    Part of Speech: Verb
    Transliteration: archó
    Phonetic Spelling: (ar'-kho)
    Short Definition: I reign, rule
    Definition: I reign, rule.

    Word Origin
    a prim. verb
    Definition
    to rule, to begin
    NASB Translation
    began (62), begin (7), beginning (8), begins (2), begun (1), proceed (1),starting (2).
         
    rule (1), rulers (1),    

    In the Beginning…… God created……

    Col.1:15   Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;

    16  for  In  him were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created   Through   him, and unto(into) him;

    17  and he is  Before  all things, and  In  him all things consist.

    18  And he is the  Head  of the  Body,  the church:  who is the  Beginning,  the Firstborn from the   Dead;   that in all things he might have the   Preeminence.

    19  For it was the good pleasure of the Father that   In  him should all the  fulness  dwell;

    20  and   Through   him to   Reconcile   all things unto himself, having made peace through the blood of his cross;

    *Through* him,   I say, whether things upon the earth, or things in the heavens.

    Head  of the  Body

    2And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

    wisdom and understanding,  counsel and might,  knowledge and fear of the LORD;

    All  in  the   Head.

    Peace brother.

    #356322
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 27 2013,02:30)

    Quote (abe @ Aug. 27 2013,18:33)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 22 2013,06:09)

    Matthew 19:28   And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, **in the   ** regeneration**   **when** the Son of man *shall* sit in the throne of his glory, ye also *shall* sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

    Jesus did not rule in his throne the minute satan was thrown down to earth.
    For God said: Sit thou on my right hand ;*UNTILL* I make your enemies your footstool.

    I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, **in the   ** regeneration**   **when** the Son of man *shall* sit in the throne of his glory,

    in the   ** regeneration**  

    Tit.3:3   For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, [and] hating one another.
    4  But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man   Appeared,
    5  Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of   *Regeneration*,  and  Renewing of the Holy Ghost;
    6  whom He poured out   upon us   richly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
    7  That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

    The *Regeneration* is  Past.

    Peace………………..


    Abe.

    I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, **in the   ** regeneration**   **when** the Son of man *shall* sit in the throne of his glory,

    Jesus speaking to his followers with him at that time.
    The renewing of minds is still going on today,but at a very slow pace. Because the spirit of babylon is working
    double time; to tempt them with all the leisure of the world. We need to come out of babylon.

    What is your question?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    (Quote)
    The renewing of minds is still going on today,but at a very slow pace. Because the spirit of babylon is working
    double time; to tempt them with all the leisure of the world. We need to come out of babylon.

    spirit of babylon?

    Do you have Scripture for this?

    Peace……..

    #356297
    abe
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 22 2013,06:09)

    Matthew 19:28   And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, **in the   ** regeneration**   **when** the Son of man *shall* sit in the throne of his glory, ye also *shall* sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

    Jesus did not rule in his throne the minute satan was thrown down to earth.
    For God said: Sit thou on my right hand ;*UNTILL* I make your enemies your footstool.

    I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, **in the   ** regeneration**   **when** the Son of man *shall* sit in the throne of his glory,

    in the   ** regeneration**  

    Tit.3:3   For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, [and] hating one another.
    4  But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man   Appeared,
    5  Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of   *Regeneration*,  and  Renewing of the Holy Ghost;
    6  whom He poured out   upon us   richly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
    7  That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

    The *Regeneration* is  Past.

    Peace………………..

    #356295
    abe
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    (Quote)
    AT THE MOMENT,JESUS IS SITTING NEXT TO HIS FATHER.
    AS YOU CAN SEE THE 12TRIBES OF ISRAEL  IS NOT JUDGED YET.THIS WILL BE AT JUDGEMENT DAY.

    AT THE MOMENT,JESUS IS SITTING NEXT TO HIS FATHER.

    Acts7:54   54Now when they heard this, they were cut to the quick, and they [began] gnashing their teeth at  him(Stephen).

    55   But being   Full of the Holy Spirit,   he gazed intently into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus *standing* at the right hand of God;

    and Jesus  *Standing*  at the right hand of God;

    Scripture says standing.

    Peace..

    #356286
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 24 2013,21:29)

    Quote (abe @ Aug. 05 2013,13:25)

    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 04 2013,11:51)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2013,23:41)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,11:31)
    abe

    Quote
    Please tell me, why Christ is not the Wisdom of God?

    good question.


    Indeed.  In 1 Cor 1:23, Christ is poetically referred to as “the wisdom of God”.  Paul was not saying that Jesus Christ is LITERALLY all the wise thoughts and knowledge that God has.

    It is a good reference back to Proverbs 8 though, where Christ is also poetically referred to as the wisdom of God.  No doubt Paul had this proverb in mind when he wrote 1 Cor 1:23.


    Mike,

    Proverbs 8 speaks of Wisdom, who is a female.


    Hi Kerwin,

    Gal.3:26   For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

    there is neither   male nor female:   for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

    Matt.22:30   For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

    Peace brother…


    Abe,

    The poetry form of the adages in the book of wisdom call Wisdom a female because the Hebrew word for wisdom is feminine.  Jesus is male.  That is a sex change to those who choose to be consistent and hold Jesus is Wisdom and not that he is a prince that rules by it and a king that judges by it. There are also those that choose cherry pick what particular type of way they want to translate each part and so Wisdom becomes Jesus and the gender of both Wisdom and Jesus becomes irrelevant. I simply take it that is a poetic form and Wisdom is godly wisdom, which has no characteristic of gender.

    Jesus is Wisdom in the same way God is Love.


    Hi Kerwin,

    (Quote)
    The poetry form of the adages in the book of wisdom call Wisdom a female because the Hebrew word for wisdom is feminine.  Jesus is male.

    Wisdom is one of the seven spirits that Christ married.

    Rev.5:6   And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

    ‘Having'  seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

    Two become One.

    Thats why Jesus said………………

    18   “  I   will not leave you as orphans;   I   will come to you.
    19   “After a little while the world will no longer see Me, but you [will] see Me; because I live, you will live also.
    20   “In that day you will know that  I  am in My Father, and you in Me, and  I  in you.

    in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain,

    What is your opinion on the Lamb  being  *Of The*..Four Beasts?

    Peace brother……………

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