Quote (2besee @ Nov. 28 2013,07:48)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 27 2013,23:16)2besee.Can you compare these scriptures also?Like what you just did?ex.4:11kjv; deut.32:391 sam.2:6.job. 26:13.pslm.78:49.isa.45:7isa.54:16.lament.3:38.Amos.3:6.Just your bible,or it would be too much.wakeup.Exodus 4:11King James BibleAnd the LORD said unto him, Who hath made…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 27 2013,10:42)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 26 2013,04:03)You dont seem to mind contradicting scriptures.Hebrews 1:6   And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, ***And let all the angels of God worship him***.Hebrews 1:6 NWTBut when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says:…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Nov. 27 2013,10:37)I am right against Christian discussion/debates over doctrine/beliefs in public, now. (Only in private with a very close few, should these things be discussed). Though there is a place for the times we are in (WATCH Jesus said).We have no need of any “teachers”, because the Holy Spirit is our teacher.But just so…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 27 2013,08:25)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 26 2013,04:45)MikeB.Dont close your eyes because you will not see:FELL DOWN TO WORSHIP THE LAMB.  Wakeup,I've told you this before, but here goes again:There is not one scripture in the whole of the Bible that says anyone ever has, or ever will, “worship” Jesus Christ.But if you insist…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 26 2013,15:11)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 26 2013,09:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2013,09:40)That post isn't worth a response, Wakeup.  Of course God has sent messengers/spokesmen from heaven.  Of course God is able to send His only begotten Son from heaven to act as the sacrificial lamb to take away our sins.   And NO, no man is…[Read more]

Mike B.Quote But you believe that this thing that became flesh USED TO BE God Almighty Himself, right?And you believe that this thing that became flesh IS ONCE AGAIN God Almighty Himself, right? Because there is only “one throne” in heaven, right? No; I did not say that.I said the Word became flesh,not God became flesh.To create; one needs to be…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 27 2013,07:22)Wakeup,I believe that Jehovah is two powers, one is the Father and one is the Son. Both are called Jehovah together and separately and together they act in complete cooperation and interdependency.Jehovah the Father sent Jehovah the Son. Jehovah the Father gave Jehovah the Son. Jehovah the Father is not…[Read more]

2besee.Can you compare these scriptures also?Like what you just did?ex.4:11kjv; deut.32:391 sam.2:6.job. 26:13.pslm.78:49.isa.45:7isa.54:16.lament.3:38.Amos.3:6.Just your bible,or it would be too much.wakeup.

I can see the contradiction there.The *creature* who *always existed*.wakeup.

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 27 2013,04:47)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 26 2013,10:35)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 26 2013,14:47)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 25 2013,14:47)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 25 2013,19:39)Wakeup,Sometimes being meek is to be submissive to God but I believe that is what poor in spirit means in the B-attitudes.  Meek in the B-attitudes probably means long…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 27 2013,01:49)Wakeup,Jesus and the Father are both inherently God.You and your son (if you have one) are both inherently human.So when you say 'God and Jesus' it can be confusing because Jesus is god, the Father is god…both are inherently god. All other gods are not inherently god but acting as god in some…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Nov. 26 2013,19:47)Addendum: The first resurrection would be at the coming of the son of man (with the destruction of the world by fire). They are safe from the second death.They are raised from the dead with the saints who are remaining alive after the destruction of the world.They are all believers in Christ.The second…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2013,09:12)I would still honor him as the Son, Servant, Prophet, Priest, Sacrificial Lamb, Spokesman, and Anointed One OF our one and only MOST HIGH God, Jehovah.So exactly the same way I honor him now.  How long he has lived wouldn't change one of those things listed above.MikeB.Dont close your eyes because you will…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 26 2013,14:59)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 25 2013,07:16)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 25 2013,10:56)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 24 2013,05:14)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 24 2013,05:42)Wakeup,So any contradiction you do see you you justify by claiming it you cannot understand it.  Sometimes the answer is instead that the translators mistranslated the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 26 2013,15:11)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 26 2013,09:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2013,09:40)That post isn't worth a response, Wakeup.  Of course God has sent messengers/spokesmen from heaven.  Of course God is able to send His only begotten Son from heaven to act as the sacrificial lamb to take away our sins.   And NO, no man is…[Read more]

GeneB, and Marty have spoken with wisdom.How do we know that we have the truth and nothing but the truth?If we can teach without contradicting any scriptures;then we know that we have the whole truth.All scriptures,old and new,if understood correctly will give usa picture of God's whole plan on earth.If this is achieved; we should jump for joy,for…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 26 2013,05:11)Wakeup,The unbelieving Jews didn't call the Two Powers of Heaven a heresy until the Second Power was identified as Jesus during the Christian era. That in itself gives the idea more credibility as possible since they rejected Jesus as their Messiah and showed their lack of truth. Read above post to tigger2.hI…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 26 2013,14:33)Wakeup,Quote When I'm speaking of the jews I am not speaking of the true prophets of God and of Jesus Christ.I was hoping that was the case.Jesus is a Jew both in flesh and spirit.  He is in spirit as primarily he is in Spirit the Son of God.Those Gentiles that believe are Jews in Spirit as they show themselves…[Read more]