Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 13 2007,05:07)Also Matt 28:19 supports the third person.And this scripture is unambiguous.Not only is the verse itself ambiguous, whether it is even trulya scripture at all is ambiguous.We certainly know from the entire book of Acts that not one desciple obeyed that supposed command. We know that Jesus never…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 13 2007,05:07)Sorry I dont agree. There is One Spirit, three persons, ONE God.Sorry, I don't agree. There is the Father, the only true God,and Jesus CHrist, whom He has sent.Each of them have a spirit. A Holy Spirit.Tim

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 13 2007,05:07)And also Jesus says the Spirit is subservient to him.Of course it is.Jesus can send forth His spirit, just as God can send forth his spirit.Tim

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 13 2007,05:07)If there is not another person, then who or what was the dove that sat on him at the Jordan while the Father in heaven spoke? Did his own personal Spirit come and sit on him.It was the Holy Spirit of God, whick God sent.Tim

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 13 2007,02:55)He uses the term “Another”. Study those scriptures closely and you will see there is “Another”, in fact Jesus said that himself and the Father will send the Comforter, and we know they didnt send themselves.Hi WorshippingJesusParakletos is only used five times in the entire bible.In Jn 14:16 and Jn…[Read more]

Jesus was a God. Our Father called him such.But He was not the Father God, or any part of the Father Godany more than you and I are. He just had a much closer relationshipwith His Father than any body else on earth at the time.After all, He came to introduce us to His Father.So that we too could know Him.After his death and resurection God gave…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2007,17:59)Hi CO, Compare Rom 2 and 3. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God Rom 2″  11For there is no respect of persons with God. 12For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; “Outside the law men perished…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2007,15:06)Hi CO, God wants all. But all will not believe in The Son.Hi Nick,scripture does not say that God wants all.Our Saviour, God, Who wills that all mankind be saved and come to a realization of the truth” Whatever God wills He will have.Tim

Hi IS 118,Since it appears that the document entitled “To the Hebrews” is a sermon or essaywhich expounds on Psalm 110, I was curious why you asked your questions concerning who was speaking, using Psalm 102.Tim

well, I have to admit that both of you did an excellent job of presenting your view of these particular scriptures. It has been difficult for me to distinguish who was saying what about whom in the past. If nothing else, this debate forced me to spend more time tryingto understand the scripture instead of merely reading them. I thank you both for…[Read more]

Virtually every thread eventually turns into a trinity thread.Tim

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 07 2007,05:10)quote]Funny, I have to explain “S–T” to you.Now that actually was a funny play on a colloquial statementWorshippingJesus.I didn't think that you had a sense of humor.Tim

Quote (david @ April 05 2007,21:31)tropical.Hi David,WHere I live it is not “tropical” yet. But in another month perhaps. Tim

Quote (Tim2 @ April 05 2007,22:25)Nick,The creeds say what the Bible says.  You refuse to say what the Bible says, that Jesus is God, so we wrote the creeds to differentiate ourselves from heretics such as yourself.TimHi Tim2,That is a funny statement. A heretic is anyone that disagrees with what another person thinks is orthadox.So if two people…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ April 05 2007,17:54)Matthew 28:19Hi Tim2,Read what some of these experts say.The Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics:As to Matthew 28:19, it says: It is the central piece of evidence for the traditional (Trinitarian) view. If it were undisputed, this would, of course, be decisive, but its trustworthiness is impugned on grounds of…[Read more]

Quote (Cult Buster @ April 04 2007,07:51)The issue at hand is the phrase “I am” in verse 58.  The Jehovah's Witnesses have “translated” the Greek present tense (“I am”) into the English perfect tense (“I have been”) which is more consistent with their theological position that Jesus is not God in flesh.  In the Greek, the words are “ego eimi.” L…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ April 05 2007,00:58)Tim,I would say that supports that a parakletos is a person.So if the Father is a person, Jesus is a person, and the Spirit is a person, and they are all the same God, I'd say that is one God in three persons.  TimHi Tim2,Parakletos was only used to describe Jesus, not the Father.Jesus only said that the Father…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2007,00:00)Quote (TimothyVI @ April 04 2007,23:46)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2007,22:19)Hi Tim2, Deliberately.The Spirit of God is a manifestation of God and as Acts 5 shows us that Spirit must be treated with the respect due to God Himself.Why is blasphemy against the Spirit more serious than that against the Son…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ April 04 2007,20:51)Nick,How many things that aren't persons are called parakletos?TimTim2Aside from the times in John where parakletos is used to describe the new comforter that Jesus woud ask the Father to send back to us after He is gone, it is only used one other time in the entire bible. That is in 1 John when john says that the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2007,22:19)Hi Tim2, Deliberately.The Spirit of God is a manifestation of God and as Acts 5 shows us that Spirit must be treated with the respect due to God Himself.Why is blasphemy against the Spirit more serious than that against the Son of God?Hi Nick,Blaspheming against the Holy spirit is explained in verses…[Read more]