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    Quote (martian @ Feb. 12 2009,07:40)It never seems to occur to most that we actually need to fulfill a purpose or have a proper conclussion to our reams of discourse.  A conclussion and purpose that actually moves the body of Christ forward.Martian,Are these then some of our purposes and should these be our intent!Quote but let us encourage one…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 11 2009,22:08)They  profess GOD but deny the POWER there of.I always thought the scripture eye opening –Quote 2Tim.3:2-5 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy,  without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, b…[Read more]

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    Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 11 2009,15:49)Thinker,You reminded me –Quote I was not the first person to ever mention “foot work” done. It was you who first posted that you took two years of Greek. So let's keep that in mind. In looking back, you are right. I made a statement about Greek tenses which you challenged.You then noted –Quote I thought…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 11 2009,19:46)Hi, Life and death of all things is known by God.Amazing.Matthew 10:29″ Are not two sparrows sold for a cent? And yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from your Father.Matthew 10:31″So do not fear; you are more valuable than many sparrows. Luke 12:6″Are not five sparrows sold for two cents? Yet…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 11 2009,17:11)Nick………And what of your rationalizations are we to listen to them?.  Is that all you can do is go around labeling and condescending on people who don't agree with you. Post your proofs of what you are talking about if you truly understand instead of ridiculing what others say.  You have (NO) k…[Read more]

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    Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 11 2009,15:49)Thinker,Here is where my “Seeking” has brought me -Hi Martian:Don't you know it is about winning the debate that matters? Yes! If I heard you right, I want to be the first to repent.It still holds true, 1CO 1:20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Feb. 11 2009,14:59)94,Quote You know we have a variety of education on this board. One thing that is very common is the amount of religious people that are on here. You have those with little education in the word and continually post the same scriptures over and over again with their same opinion over and over. Then you have those…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 11 2009,14:37)Hi, This quote from a catholic source about the canon is interesting”The different status of some New Testament books resurfaced again during Reformation in sixteenth century. Martin Luther, although he included James, Jude, Hebrews and Revelation in his list of New Testament, he considered them to have…[Read more]

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    Thinker posted –Quote Seeking,I assure you that I have the Greek text. I possess the text which is used in the Bible colleges and Theologial Seminaries. It was required of me as a student. Just refer to the NASB.Sometimes I think you believe others should be overwhelmed with your foot work.  I am sure you didn't mean it to sound this way, but…[Read more]

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    Quote (Not3in1 @ Feb. 10 2009,23:54)What I am saying is that we can stop sinning by God’s grace through faith in Jesus our Lord.Really?  Have you stopped sinning?  You realize what human nature is, don't you?  The bible refers to it as “sinful nature”.  HmmmmHello to all,I have been interested for some time regarding this discussion but have not p…[Read more]

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    Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 10 2009,17:59)I was expecting this reply Marty. The second part of verse 1 is not in the Greek text. The Greek text reads thus, Quote There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus. (PERIOD) For the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set me free from the law of sin and death…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Feb. 10 2009,14:52)94,These are statements made to the writers readers for themto consider – Quote HEB 1:5 For to which of the angels did God ever say,They are taken from Ps.102 as statements David made regarding Jehovah. They were not spoken to Jesus, however, the Hebrew writer applied them to Jesus.Seeking

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    Thinker wrote – Quote Hey Seeking,Man does NOT baptize in water. Apostles baptize in water and they're all dead and gone. Therefore, baptism died with them.Here are the original instructions – Quote Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations,…[Read more]

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    Nick wrote –Quote Hi TT,You said”James said nothing about the meaning of Christ's death because he didn't know anything. James didn't know anything because Christ didn't reveal it to him. If Christ had revealed it to him then he would not have been able to shut his mouth.”This inference is not shared.I find the following account accurate,…[Read more]

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    Thinker,You said –Quote Again, James is silent on the death of Christ and on Christian doctrine so decide for yourself.Nick asks –Quote Does James have to mention the death of Jesus for it to have occurred?Inference is poor wisdom.You closed  with –Quote I know that James was written very early because I will not believe in a God who contradicts…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 09 2009,21:53)Baptizing with water, or Holy Spirit?Gene,As I understand scripture, man baptizes in water – Jesus baptizes with the Holy Spirit.Quote John answered them all, “I baptize you with water. But one more powerful than I will come, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Feb. 09 2009,21:07)This is what James said in context…  I see no contradiction between what he said and what the Apostle Paul said.  Believing, which is called faith,  is not just a mental assent.  It is clear from the following scriptures that someone who professes to be a Christian and is not obeying the commandments that cam…[Read more]

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    Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 09 2009,17:00)Thinker, I am still working out a dating issue I am having. I asked priviously for some clarification:Quote I understand these dates, approximate as they are,to be widely accepted times of writing – Romans AD57 -1Cor. AD55 – Gal. AD48-53 – EPH. AD60 – Philip. AD 53-55 – Col.AD60 – Thess. AD51 – Tim. Titus…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 08 2009,16:49)Nick,Your questions were –Quote Should we scold the messengers of truth for their unkindness? Quote Should we scold the messengers of truth for their unkindness? You have my answers. What kind of inane response is this, The wrath of God is not the fate men should risk. Pulling some out of the fire is…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 08 2009,15:01)Nick wrote –Quote Should we soften the message to indulge the lost?Who are the lost you feel you would be indulging? Kindness and understanding go a long way to making the message more receivable. Thus we have the attitude of Paul –Quote 1CO 9:19-23 Though I am free and belong to no man, I make myself a…[Read more]

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