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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 2 months ago

    Quote The Greek Word in John 1:14 is Logos which means “What God has spoken”. This Word pertains to Jesus and it was made a reality when Jesus was conceived of the Holy Ghost in the womb of the virgin Mary. notice that John 1:14 states that the Word or Logos became or was made flesh. It does not state that Jesus became flesh. And John 1 reads…[Read more]

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    Wm I voted for #3 …Irene

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    Quote (Lightenup @ July 26 2011,04:30)Hi Irene,You say there is only ONE Jehovah our God.  There is also ONE body of Christ.  Both are a compound unity made up of more than one.Btw, Deut 10:17 does say Jehovah, doesn't it ??? Also, the name 'Lord of lords' is not a substitute for the word 'Jehovah' but it is a name that Jehovah encompasses.Quote In t…[Read more]

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    Mike!  But it does say that through Jesus all was created. InJhn 1:3   All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Col 1:15   Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:   Col 1:16   For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invi…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ July 25 2011,06:38)Irene,Deut. 10:17 tells you who Jehovah our God is.  He is both God of gods and Lord of lords. Deut 10:17 “For the LORD (Jehovah) your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe.1 Cor 8:6 tells us there is one God,…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ July 24 2011,22:04)Quote (Pastry @ July 24 2011,20:51)Kathi!  Where is there a Scripture that says that Jehovah is the unity of both Father and Son?  Jehovah is Jesus Fathers name.Psa 83:18   That may know that thou, whose name alone JEHOVAH, the most high over all the earth.  Peace and Love IreneHi Irene,Jehovah is…[Read more]

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    Kathi! Where is there a Scripture that says that Jehovah is the unity of both Father and Son? Jehovah is Jesus Fathers name.Psa 83:18 That may know that thou, whose name alone JEHOVAH, the most high over all the earth. Peace and Love Irene

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    Quote (kerwin @ July 23 2011,19:58)Quote (Pastry @ July 23 2011,12:11)Ed and Kerwin!  In Jhn 1:14 ¶ And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.  This is not Gods Holy Spirit.  notice THE ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER, FULL OF GRACE AND TRU…[Read more]

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    Ed and Kerwin! In Jhn 1:14 ¶ And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. This is not Gods Holy Spirit. notice THE ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER, FULL OF GRACE AND TRUTH.That is who became Jesus…..Also to compare The Word of God will come…[Read more]

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    Quote (seekingtruth @ July 23 2011,11:16)Quote (Pastry @ July 23 2011,07:32)Quote (seekingtruth @ July 22 2011,09:50)Quote Pierre!  Good post…..When one does not know how to answer a question, He or She bails out.  That is what I have seen more then once happening here.  To me it is simple not right.  It is ignorance, and ignorance should nev…[Read more]

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    Quote (seekingtruth @ July 22 2011,09:50)Quote Pierre!  Good post…..When one does not know how to answer a question, He or She bails out.  That is what I have seen more then once happening here.  To me it is simple not right.  It is ignorance, and ignorance should never be excepted, in my view.  But with some here it is…..Peace and Love Iren…[Read more]

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    Quote (seekingtruth @ July 22 2011,09:50)Quote Pierre!  Good post…..When one does not know how to answer a question, He or She bails out.  That is what I have seen more then once happening here.  To me it is simple not right.  It is ignorance, and ignorance should never be excepted, in my view.  But with some here it is…..Peace and Love Iren…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ July 22 2011,03:03)Quote (Pastry @ July 22 2011,05:32)Quote but God is called LORD OF LORDSPierre!  I never heard that God is called LORD OF LORDS.  The reason Jehovah God is called LORD in all capital letters is because the Translators were afraid to use Gods name in vain, so in the Old Test. Jehovah God is called LORD or j…[Read more]

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    Pierre! Good post…..When one does not know how to answer a question, He or She bails out. That is what I have seen more then once happening here. To me it is simple not right. It is ignorance, and ignorance should never be excepted, in my view. But with some here it is…..Peace and Love Irene

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    Marty! Should I tell you what all is wrong with my physical well being? I don;t believe that gives us any reason to not answer a question put to us. Even the one about the “echo”. He could just say “I don't know.” That would have satisfied Mike. You just can't say that I should believe you over Mike when you have no prove. 1Th 5:21…[Read more]

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    Mike! I do see what you mean. But again I am getting really tired of all these accusations. What I want most is peace in my life. I also realize that HN is not the place to get it. So I am still going to come here, but hopefully I will not get into any lengthy controversy with anyone. One day soon, I hope, Jesus will come and set all…[Read more]

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    Quote (princess @ July 22 2011,00:39)Quote (Pastry @ July 21 2011,22:18)Quote (princess @ July 21 2011,16:08)Quote Your conclusion is influenced  by Istari.  I see Him coming on here lots of times….He just can't post any longer….Peace Irene Your conclusions are never influenced by Georg, Irene? I see no reason why J cannot post, his post are n…[Read more]

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    Quote (shimmer @ July 21 2011,22:46)No, its the very likes of a few people here, why I no longer want to post. Pity there are some who ruin it for the others, dont you think?People such as Princess, Gene, Kerwin, and others are good. Even Mike has his good points, sometimes. But theres a few on here, who say things like you just did to Princess,…[Read more]

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    Quote but God is called LORD OF LORDSPierre! I never heard that God is called LORD OF LORDS. The reason Jehovah God is called LORD in all capital letters is because the Translators were afraid to use Gods name in vain, so in the Old Test. Jehovah God is called LORD or just God.While in the New Test. I know of one Scripture were Jesus is called…[Read more]

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    Quote (princess @ July 21 2011,16:08)Quote Your conclusion is influenced  by Istari.  I see Him coming on here lots of times….He just can't post any longer….Peace Irene Your conclusions are never influenced by Georg, Irene? I see no reason why J cannot post, his post are no worse then others I have read.Oh, are Shimmer and Istari married?  …[Read more]

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