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    Kerwin! So you believe that Angels are in Heaven with flesh an blood? That is not what Scripture says. 1Cr 15:50 ¶ Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Peace and Love Irene

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    Quote Maybe everyone should get a New World Translation from the JW's. :) God bless that organization for getting the Name of God out there!That is so true….few know however…. Peace and Love Irene

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    Kathi!  I am more concerned about Jehovah God then what the Church is.  I am not about to argue about that.  But I have given you a Scripture that proves Jehovah God is the most High God.  And that the Father is above all, that to e includes Jesus.  Because Jesus Hs Son is also mentioned in that same Book of Eph 4:4   one body, and one Spiri…[Read more]

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    Let me give my two cents. A woman is to be loved…. When the man loves a woman, He will not dominate Her, or make a slave out of Her. Since man came first, He has a responsibility towards a woman. She came from His rib, and why would He not love Her, it is really part of Him…. My personal womanly responsibility is to let my Husband have the…[Read more]

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    I agree with Mike and Pierre that Angels are Spirit Beings.  However they can manifest them self as a Human Being, to help those here on earth.  I speak out of experience….. Two Angels walked away from our Granddaughter when She was only two years old.  Some thought it ironic that they did not help Her,  But when our Daughter took our Gra…[Read more]

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    All! We have a Rye Study Bible and in the footnotes it says:” The Translators used mainly LORD instead of Jehovah, because they didn't want to take Gods name in vain. Our KJV only has Jehovah written once, and all other Bibles also only once or twice. No wonder people think God is His name….Peace and Love Irene

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 01 2011,07:23)Quote (kerwin @ July 31 2011,13:50)Quote In Colossians 1:15, is it the “Spirit of Sonship” who is the VISIBLE image of the invisible God? If you live by the Spirit of God then you are the image of the invisible God as you do as God does for God does his works through you.Okay Kerwin,Let's re-do Col 1 YOUR…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 31 2011,01:56)Quote (Lightenup @ July 30 2011,14:30)Mike,I have no desire to go on a search for you in this regards.  I have proven that a compound unity is spoken about in the singular.  Gender is not the issue.KathiKathi,I recently made an interesting discovery regarding the idea of compound unity being spoken about i…[Read more]

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    No Jesus is not a man in Heaven.  First because of the Scripture in John 17:5… The glory that Jesus had with His Father was that He was a Spirit being, and to that glory He went back to…. He was in the form of God and emptied Himself and became a man…Phl 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Phl…[Read more]

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    Jhn 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work? Jhn 6:31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat. Jhn 6:32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 4 months ago

    Quote Are you stating that Human being Jesus has the title “The Logos of God” because the Logos incarnated in him?Kerwin! Jesus did preexisted His birth here on earth, as The Word of God….. when we have more then one Scripture stating hat, I will not ignore those Scriptures likeCol. 1:15. Rev. 3:14 and John 1:1 Jesus went back to Heaven and is…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 4 months ago

    Kerwin and All!~ An Article from t8In  the Beginning of His way”The LORD possessed me at the beginning of His way,Before His works of old.I have been established from everlasting,From the beginning, before there was ever an earth.When there were no depths I was brought forth,When there were no fountains abounding with water.Before the mountains…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ July 31 2011,14:21)Quote (Pastry @ July 31 2011,02:14)Quote (kerwin @ July 29 2011,15:38)Irene,Quote Wisdom is like Patience , Hope, Love and Peace inside a person.  God always had wisdom.  So no way was wisdom brought forth and could be beside God…Proverbs is talking about Jesus IMOGod both possesses Wisdom in him and created W…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ July 31 2011,15:32)Irene,I have been answering Mike and he keeps asking for more.  What I have shown him is sufficient to prove that a compound unity is referred to with singular pronouns.Quote As far as the Church is concerned, it is not a He or She, the Church is singular as a unit,   All organized religion are not the true C…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ July 31 2011,16:22)Quote Ex 3:15 God also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ,‘Jehovah, the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, the name by which I am to be remembered from generation to generation.And Jehovah is the name of the unity of…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ July 30 2011,14:30)Mike,I have no desire to go on a search for you in this regards.  I have proven that a compound unity is spoken about in the singular.  Gender is not the issue.KathiKathi! Mike asked a good Question, so how about answering that? As far as the Church is concerned, it is not a He or She, the Church is s…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ July 30 2011,11:01)Irene,Can you show me where it says this exactly:Quote Jehovah God is one God.Kathi!  Yes, I can show you that there is only ONE GOD 1Cr 8:6   But to us one God, the Father, of whom all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom all things, and we by him.  This Scripture distinguishes that Go…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ July 29 2011,15:38)Irene,Quote Wisdom is like Patience , Hope, Love and Peace inside a person.  God always had wisdom.  So no way was wisdom brought forth and could be beside God…Proverbs is talking about Jesus IMOGod both possesses Wisdom in him and created Wisdom with his actions, words, and thoughts.  The intent of his Word is…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 31 2011,01:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 30 2011,13:10)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 29 2011,08:30)Mike………..Do you see what you do Here, you change context of what i and scripture says, I said that Jesus was not talking about the (person) but their (lives) they lead.  His focus was not about the person at all but…[Read more]

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    Quote (seekingtruth @ July 30 2011,12:30)Irene,It got down to 36 this morning, she took something and it went up for a little awhile then went back to 36. However she is out of hospital now they got it up over 200 and now she feels fine. Thank you for your prayers.WmWm! That was very low…..But 200 is above normal, anything over 150 my Doctor…[Read more]

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