Ok, it seems that there are some scholars who seem to think that parts of the NWT are more accurate than some other versions, but some go on to say that in spite of this they are not sympathetic to the JW sect and go on to explain that it was the likes of these religious people that were responsible for Jesus' deathIn other words, they may have…[Read more]

David, before I was born again I was ignorant of God and of Scripture. When I asked the Lord to forgive me and chose to live with Jesus as Lord of my life my eyes were opened. I was born of the spirit and shortly after, baptised in water and then baptised in the Holy Spirit. My life has been for the last 28 years an experiential walk with God,…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 04 2007,20:00)Quote You appear to be different David.  From previous discussions I get the impression that you have been born again.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.I'm sorry, but yet again, you are wrong, without question.  Please see the “born again” thread.  I make many comments in that thread.  This is the “God (Elohim) thre…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 04 2007,19:57)Based on what exactly?  Your dislike for the truth?  Or is it your general feeling of uneasiness when anyone dares question the heresy of trinity doctrine that you so love?Actually, Oxy, if you go up two posts, you'll find that actual conclusion:In conclusion:””The bottom line is that “The Word was a god” is e…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 04 2007,19:45)Quote David, I have to agree with WJ.  Here is just one quote from a page I have been reading:If a Jehovah's Witness Would Say…”Our Bible is Reliable.” The Christian should respond that no reputable Greek or Hebrew scholar has given an endorsement of the New World Translation.I'm sorry Oxy, but you simply don't…[Read more]

WJ, these are reportedly the translators of the NWTTranslator/ Qualifications Franz, Frederick Probably the only person to actually translate. Franz was a liberal arts student at the University of Cincinnati:21 semester hours of classical Greek, some Latin. Partially completed a two-hour survey course in Biblical Greek in junior year. Self-taught…[Read more]

David, I have to agree with WJ. Here is just one quote from a page I have been reading:If a Jehovah's Witness Would Say…”Our Bible is Reliable.” The Christian should respond that no reputable Greek or Hebrew scholar has given an endorsement of the New World Translation. The Society has at times used both out-of-context quotations from scholars…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2007,06:25)Hi CB, You would not need a drawing board to devise your own God if you listened to the voice in Scripture.God is one, and has a son.Did it ever occur to you that if God was in fact one solitary “being”, then there would be no need to declare that He is one?I mean how often do you go around telling people…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2007,06:25)Hi CB, You would not need a drawing board to devise your own God if you listened to the voice in Scripture.God is one, and has a son.The voice in Scripture Nick? Where does that come from? Can you show me where in Scripture there is a voice of Scripture mentioned?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2007,06:48)Hi U, The Word was with God and is never said to have BEEN created. All creation came through the Word who is the monogenes Son, the beginning of the creation of God. God is a spirit but while God was in Christ, God was yet in heaven where Christ told us to pray to him, so while the Spirit is  a…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ May 04 2007,14:13)You are quite correct in your post. It is even more simple then that. Those who claim the Logos is a person ie:Jesus take a few scriptures where the term Logos is used and give them a completely different meaning then the other 500 times it is used in scripture. This is contrary to the most elementary principles…[Read more]

Ok.. so in conclusion we can only say that the Bible is completely unreliable and therefore should be thrown away.

It is true that my use of the word trinity is in error if trinity means 3 equal, because as you say, that is not my belief. Having said that, I do believe in the oneness of the three.I do not agree with you my friend, that the Holy Spirit and the father are one and the same. I have spent considerable time searching the Scripture and have asked…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ May 03 2007,09:49)Just want to know.  Because I don't see the Holy Spirit as a third separate person.  My spirit is part of me and not a separate person. We are created in His image, right?Hi KenrchI know we've had this conversation before, and I hope you don't mind me replying to your question, but if the Holy Spirit wasn't an i…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 03 2007,11:01)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2007,09:59)Hi W,Do you teach as usual the opposite of these things with any scriptural basis?NHWhy do you point the finger at me when you believe the following!For you believe…Jesus was born again at the Jordan. (No scripture)Jesus was a Son before he was born a Son. (No…[Read more]

Far out David, too much reading! lol

Unisage.. you never have a thought that's not in the Bible? I think that that's a really ridiculous statement.If I know something I will state it as a fact. If it is a thought I will portray it as such. If one did not think one would discover nothing!Furthermore, can you please show me one verse in the Bible where the Bible is called the Word…[Read more]

Quote (Unisage @ May 02 2007,12:32)Quote (Oxy @ May 02 2007,12:20)Quote (Unisage @ May 02 2007,07:33)Quote (Oxy @ May 02 2007,07:24)Quote (Unisage @ May 02 2007,07:17)So if Jesus has a divine Spirit and a Human Spirit.When he died where did the Human Spirit Go? Where did the Holy Spirit Go? And where was the Father?Jesus was filled with the Holy…[Read more]

Quote (Unisage @ May 02 2007,07:33)Quote (Oxy @ May 02 2007,07:24)Quote (Unisage @ May 02 2007,07:17)So if Jesus has a divine Spirit and a Human Spirit.When he died where did the Human Spirit Go? Where did the Holy Spirit Go? And where was the Father?Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit as we are when we receive the Holy Spirit.  The Holy Spirit…[Read more]

Quote (Unisage @ May 02 2007,07:17)So if Jesus has a divine Spirit and a Human Spirit.When he died where did the Human Spirit Go? Where did the Holy Spirit Go? And where was the Father?Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit as we are when we receive the Holy Spirit.  The Holy Spirit always is and therefore obviously does not die.  I would imagine t…[Read more]