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I would advise one to be slow in make accusation against the Ancients of Days, Gabriel, and Melchizedek!

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Quote (Old.seaCaptain @ Feb. 26 2007,09:36) Quote (Debra @ Feb.,08:25) Quote (Old.seaCaptain @ Feb.,07:23) Quote (Debra @ Feb.,07:10) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb.,05:16) Hi osc, We have all sorts of offerings brought here from the “wisdom of men” and since it is a biblical site we find the wisdom of God is only found there. Hi Old sea captain. I've read,when I was seeking the Truth about God, it took me 2years, but when I gave my life to Jesus, I burnt it along with all the other books the Holy Spirt led me to burn. In my opinion it's a snare of the Devil, Calligastia,(don't know if this is the correct spelling) is his name isn't it? My God is not a God of confusion, and this book with it's sensational claims is not about Truth. Like the Divinci code, if your not well grounded in the Word of God, it makes sense. Hi! Debra Does the book of Enoch make sense to you? He walked with God for 365 years and wrote 366 books! Hi Old sea captain Praise God, He has given me His Holy Spirit who leads me into descerning what is of God and what isn't. Without the guidance of the Spirit I would only have my own understanding and the book of Enoch would make no sense at all. The head of the woman is the man, and the head of the man is God. It written let the woman be silent in the church. Hi osc And your point being?

What God says unto the woman!

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Quote (Old.seaCaptain @ Feb. 26 2007,07:23) Quote (Debra @ Feb.,07:10) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb.,05:16) Hi osc, We have all sorts of offerings brought here from the “wisdom of men” and since it is a biblical site we find the wisdom of God is only found there. Hi Old sea captain. I've read,when I was seeking the Truth about God, it took me 2years, but when I gave my life to Jesus, I burnt it along with all the other books the Holy Spirt led me to burn. In my opinion it's a snare of the Devil, Calligastia,(don't know if this is the correct spelling) is his name isn't it? My God is not a God of confusion, and this book with it's sensational claims is not about Truth. Like the Divinci code, if your not well grounded in the Word of God, it makes sense. Hi! Debra Does the book of Enoch make sense to you? He walked with God for 365 years and wrote 366 books! Hi Old sea captain Praise God, He has given me His Holy Spirit who leads me into descerning what is of God and what isn't. Without the guidance of the Spirit I would only have my own understanding and the book of Enoch would make no sense at all.

The head of the woman is the man, and the head of the man is God. It written let the woman be silent in the church.

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It's not a personal insult to me, But unto Christ the one you profess to know. And I am very disappointed that you have need of milk and not strong meat! and act as children and babies and not as men, professing Christ!

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I am a soldier in the army of God.
The Lord Jesus Christ is my Commanding Officer.
The Holy Bible is my code of conduct.
Faith, Prayer, and the Word are my weapons of Warfare.
I have been taught by the Holy Spirit, trained by experience, tried by adversity, and tested by fire.

I am a volunteer in this army, and I am enlisted for eternity.

I will either retire in this Army or die in this Army;
but, I will not get out, sell out, be talked out, or pushed out.
I am faithful, reliable, capable, and dependable.
If my God needs me, I am there.

I am a soldier. I am not a baby.
I do not need to be pampered, petted, primed up,
pumped up, picked up, or pepped up.
I am a soldier. No one has to call me, remind me, write me, visit me, entice me, or lure me.

I am a soldier. I am not a wimp.
I am in place, saluting my King, obeying His orders,
praising His name, and building His kingdom!
No one has to send me flowers, gifts, food, cards, candy, or give me handouts.
I do not need to be cuddled, cradled, cared for, or catered to.
I am committed. I cannot have my feelings hurt bad enough to turn me around.

I cannot be discouraged enough to turn me aside.
I cannot lose enough to cause me to quit.
When Jesus called me into this Army, I had nothing.
If I end up with nothing, I will still come out even. I will win.
My God will supply all my needs. I am more than a conqueror.
I will always triumph. I can do all things through Christ.
Devils cannot defeat me. People cannot disillusion me.
Weather cannot weary me. Sickness cannot stop me.
Battles cannot beat me. Money cannot buy me.
Governments cannot silence me, and hell cannot handle me!

I am a soldier.
Even death cannot destroy me.
For when my Commander calls me from this battlefield,
He will promote me to a captain.
I am a soldier, in the Army, I'm marching, claiming victory.
I will not give up. I will not turn around. I am a soldier, marching Heaven bound.

There are four kinds of soldiers:
1. Active Duty: Serving the Lord faithfully, daily, and on duty 24-7-365.
2. Reserve Status: Serving only when called upon,
or twice a year: Christmas and Easter.
3. Guard Status: Backing up the Active Duty group.
4. AWOL! Absent With Out the Lord.

Which kind are you? Be an army of one for an audience of One.

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True understanding? How can understanding not be true? If it was wrong or false it would be delusion or error or lies but not understanding.” Nick loved to uncover logical inconsistencies and loved to debate.

The Master walked along very patient and seemed delighted in the beauty of the garden. Nick slowed and finally stopped near a flowering bush. Nick was astounded at how beautiful it was. Why hadn't he noticed its fragrance. The colors were so deep, rich, vivid! He slowly looked up and asked, “What is happening?”

The Master's voice was coming from behind him. “Your viewpoint is incomplete. I'm am showing you the fullness of God, just in what is around you. Become aware of what is around you and become present in the now. Forget the past and cease worrying about the future. Do enjoy and connect to the now.”

Slowly the vividness faded until Nick was experiencing everything more as he was used to. He now felt as if he was missing something. Nick just said, “Wow.”

The Master was sitting on a bench that Nick must have overlooked the other times he had hurried down this path. Nick joined him. The Master said, “Until you realize that your viewpoint is incomplete and that God's viewpoint is complete, only then can you become teachable in the Mysteries of God.”

Nick couldn't argue, of course he didn't know it all. “I guess he had never really thought about how much more there was to learn. I've been so busy trying to prove that other peoples viewpoints were wrong, and that I was right, that there wasn't room for me to learn new information. My mind was made up, I didn't want to be confused with more information that didn't fit my viewpoint!” Nick sighed. “I really am interested in more information.”

The Master smiled. “When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.”

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Quote (Debra @ Feb. 26 2007,07:10)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2007,05:16) Hi osc, We have all sorts of offerings brought here from the “wisdom of men” and since it is a biblical site we find the wisdom of God is only found there. Hi Old sea captain. I've read,when I was seeking the Truth about God, it took me 2years, but when I gave my life to Jesus, I burnt it along with all the other books the Holy Spirt led me to burn. In my opinion it's a snare of the Devil, Calligastia,(don't know if this is the correct spelling) is his name isn't it? My God is not a God of confusion, and this book with it's sensational claims is not about Truth. Like the Divinci code, if your not well grounded in the Word of God, it makes sense.

Hi! Debra Does the book of Enoch make sense to you? He walked with God for 365 years and wrote 366 books!

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Nick what says Christ to you to speak! And what vision has been Lord God our Father given to you to speak? Unto the world! O man

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2007,05:16)

Hi osc, We have all sorts of offerings brought here from the “wisdom of men” and since it is a biblical site we find the wisdom of God is only found there.

Why would I want to hear any thing you “A man has to say” Like I said WHO are you?

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As it is written in Isaiah “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil, that put darkness for light, and light for darkness, that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2007,03:44)

Hi osc, For all the false prophets, false leaders and false teachers and bad translations the bible is still more reliable than any deceptive spirit guides. The spirit of divination in the woman following Paul may have been a vaulable advertiser for Paul's work in Christ but was driven out as it was not of God. Acts 16 ” 16And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: 17The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation. 18And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.”

WHO are you to? To Be throwing False prophets, false leaders, and false teachers, at me. And WHO made you my judge. I now who you are!

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If it is true that the fourth century Roman Church severely altered the written word of the scriptures, then it is absolutely necessary for the modern believer to search out the facts. Faith in the Word means that if we are a truly faithful people, that the Son of God will open our minds and enlighten us to the Truth. When we therefore ignore the facts, and blindly cling to the error of the corrupt church of Rome, then we inhibit the Lord from teaching us the truth.

If Satan is the god of darkness, then it is Satan who seduces Christians into believing that our scriptures were protected from being altered. Contrary to our many assertions of denial, the historical evidence shows conclusively that this is not the case — and the Bible no longer represents the original form of the text. Yet, it is only because the modern church no longer possesses the spiritual essence and vision of the original Church that was established in the first century, that the corruption of our scriptures creates a hindrance to the believer in our present time.

One of the most common biblical manuscripts used to make our modern English translations is known today as the Nestle Text. Yet it was Prof. Eberhard Nestle himself who warned us in his Einfhrung in die Textkritik des griechischen Testaments: “Learned men, so called Correctores were, following the church meeting at Nicea 325 AD, selected by the church authorities to scrutinize the sacred texts and rewrite them in order to correct their meaning in accordance with the views which the church had just sanctioned.” When the Church of Constantine endeavored to make the teachings of the New Covenant in sync with fourth century Roman Pagan thought and culture, to ignore the facts with respect to the manner in which the corrupters of the Word recreated the message of the scriptures in order to make it compatible to church doctrine, is to make oneself disingenuous to the very Son of God to whom we proclaim to be faithful to.

The truth and the facts to the matter is very clearly expressed in the words of Prof. Bart D. Ehrman in his book, The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture, where he warns us that: “…theological disputes, specifically disputes over Christology, prompted Christian scribes to alter the words of scripture in order to make them more serviceable for the polemical task. Scribes modified their manuscripts to make them more patently ‘orthodox’ and less susceptible to ‘abuse’ by the opponents of orthodoxy” — which orthodoxy was to bring the text of the Bible into conformity with the doctrines and tenets of the Church of the Roman Emperor Constantine. To close our hearts and minds to the facts, and ignore the truth, is from a New Covenant perspective synonymous with relinquishing any claim whatsoever with respect to being a follower of Jesus.

With regard to the condition of the Bible we presently use: The surviving Greek texts of the book of Acts are so radically different from each other, that it has been suggested that perhaps there were multiple versions written. In his book The Text of the New Testament, Dr. Vincent Taylor writes that “The manuscripts of the New Testament preserve traces of two kinds of dogmatic alterations: those which involve the elimination or alteration of what was regarded as doctrinally unacceptable or inconvenient, and those which introduce into the Scriptures proof for a favorite theological tenet or practice”. I will not be posting any more. “since you seem to want argue”

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If it is true that the fourth century Roman Church severely altered the written word of the scriptures, then it is absolutely necessary for the modern believer to search out the facts. Faith in the Word means that if we are a truly faithful people, that the Son of God will open our minds and enlighten us to the Truth. When we therefore ignore the facts, and blindly cling to the error of the corrupt church of Rome, then we inhibit the Lord from teaching us the truth.

If Satan is the god of darkness, then it is Satan who seduces Christians into believing that our scriptures were protected from being altered. Contrary to our many assertions of denial, the historical evidence shows conclusively that this is not the case — and the Bible no longer represents the original form of the text. Yet, it is only because the modern church no longer possesses the spiritual essence and vision of the original Church that was established in the first century, that the corruption of our scriptures creates a hindrance to the believer in our present time.

One of the most common biblical manuscripts used to make our modern English translations is known today as the Nestle Text. Yet it was Prof. Eberhard Nestle himself who warned us in his Einfhrung in die Textkritik des griechischen Testaments: “Learned men, so called Correctores were, following the church meeting at Nicea 325 AD, selected by the church authorities to scrutinize the sacred texts and rewrite them in order to correct their meaning in accordance with the views which the church had just sanctioned.” When the Church of Constantine endeavored to make the teachings of the New Covenant in sync with fourth century Roman Pagan thought and culture, to ignore the facts with respect to the manner in which the corrupters of the Word recreated the message of the scriptures in order to make it compatible to church doctrine, is to make oneself disingenuous to the very Son of God to whom we proclaim to be faithful to.

The truth and the facts to the matter is very clearly expressed in the words of Prof. Bart D. Ehrman in his book, The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture, where he warns us that: “…theological disputes, specifically disputes over Christology, prompted Christian scribes to alter the words of scripture in order to make them more serviceable for the polemical task. Scribes modified their manuscripts to make them more patently ‘orthodox’ and less susceptible to ‘abuse’ by the opponents of orthodoxy” — which orthodoxy was to bring the text of the Bible into conformity with the doctrines and tenets of the Church of the Roman Emperor Constantine. To close our hearts and minds to the facts, and ignore the truth, is from a New Covenant perspective synonymous with relinquishing any claim whatsoever with respect to being a follower of Jesus.

With regard to the condition of the Bible we presently use: The surviving Greek texts of the book of Acts are so radically different from each other, that it has been suggested that perhaps there were multiple versions written. In his book The Text of the New Testament, Dr. Vincent Taylor writes that “The manuscripts of the New Testament preserve traces of two kinds of dogmatic alterations: those which involve the elimination or alteration of what was regarded as doctrinally unacceptable or inconvenient, and those which introduce into the Scriptures proof for a favorite theological tenet or practice”.

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O! The term Esotericism refers to the doctrines or practices of esoteric knowledge, or otherwise the quality or state of being described as esoteric.[1] Esoteric knowledge is that which is specialised or advanced in nature, available only to a narrow circle of “enlightened”, “initiated”, or highly educated people.[2] Items pertaining to Esotericism may be known as Esoterica.[3] Some interpretations of esotericism are very broad and include even unconventional and non-scientific belief systems. In contrast, exoteric knowledge is knowledge that is well-known or public. HAS THE BIBLE BEEN FAITHFULLY PRESERVED? Modern day Christian doctrine rests upon the premise that God preserved the Bible in an absolute infallible and pure state, in order that all men should know the (historical) truth and believe in the Son of God. Their doctrinal position is that if God permitted the Bible to have been altered, then the present day church could not be genuine. Based upon this dogmatic presumption that the Christian Church must be maintained in order for man to be saved, they reason that God would not allow the written word of the scriptures to be corrupted. Thus, modern Christians cling to this doctrine — ignoring overwhelming evidence to the contrary — evidence that demonstrates conclusively that our Bible has been severely altered and edited — because they fail to grasp the very foundational principles of the New Covenant itself — principles that are not historical, but spiritual. It is not until we understand that the Bible is a road-map that leads us to the Gate of the Kingdom, and the Word that is written in our hearts — rather than a final revelation from God to man — that we are able to even begin to come to terms with the Spiritual Gospel of Christ that can never be corrupted.
The very assertion of Christian Church Authority that either the Church or the scriptures must be preserved in order for man to obtain salvation not only demonstrates a total inability to perceive the essence of the Gospel message — but perhaps more importantly, has already been historically disproven and demonstrated to be in error. Once the Church was adopted by Rome in the fourth century, it became unlawful for the scriptures to be given into the hands of the common believer — thus, throughout most of Christian history the written text of the scriptures was not available to the people. Furthermore, the Church itself became so Pagan and corrupt, that it was often referred to throughout history as the “synagogue of Satan” (Rev 2:9;3:9). In a letter to Pope Leo X on September 6th, 1520, Martin Luther wrote of the Christianity of his day that the church, “…once the holiest of all, has become the most licentious den of thieves, the most shameless of all brothels, the kingdom of sin, death, and hell. It is so bad that even Antichrist himself, if he should come, could think of nothing to add to its wickedness” (Quoted in: The Great Thoughts; compiled by George Seldes).

When it is realized that Martin Luther was merely confirming the very biblical prediction made by none other than the Apostle Paul, when he wrote that in the near future the Prince of Darkness would be worshiped as God in the church which would call itself of Christ, the theological position of the modern church is totally undermined. Of this future ruler of the church, the Apostle writes that he “…opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God” (2 Th 2:4 NKJ).

If this prediction of the Apostle is true, and from a first-century perspective it would soon come to pass when the very Prince of Darkness would sit in the “…temple of God, showing himself that he is God”, and be worshiped by a disillusioned people who would falsely believe they were calling upon the name of the Lord, then all people who consider themselves to be sincere believers today had better rethink their position with respect to the purity with which the scriptures has been preserved. Moreover, in view of the fact that the Apostle warns that the church would be guided by false apostles — some of whom were the very scribes who copied the biblical manuscripts we use to make our translations today — then for the sincere believer to blindly accept the position of the modern church that the scriptures were preserved in a pure state, is merely asking to be deceived and misled. In our search today for Truth and Light, it is imperative that we recognize the warning in the Apostle’s own Epistles where we can clearly see that Paul predicts that counterfeit apostles and ministers would arise, and would control the church of this world which the masses of people will mistakenly believe is the genuine church of God. Of these false apostles and their leader, the Apostle warned the faithful flock: “For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works” (2 Cor 11:13-15 NKJ).

The problem is that, regardless of how much evidence is shown to the majority of modern Christians — evidence which demonstrates conclusively that the New Testament scriptures were severely altered by the Church of Rome — they will refuse to acknowledge the facts. Why? Because the majority of modern Christians are a disenfranchised people — severed from the presence of the indwelling Spirit which is given to the truly faithful disciples in order to teach them — and they are afraid to deviate from their present-day doctrine and church dogma. In the Living Spiritual Church of the New Covenant that was ordained by the Son of God, all revelation is made directly from God to the faithful congregation. But because the modern believer has been alienated from the very essence of the fundamentals of New Covenant teachings, they fear the spiritual journey associated with the beginning of the walk in The Way. The Son of God calls out to them — but because they are anchored to this world by the doctrines and traditions of men, they are afraid to actually pick up their own crosses and follow in the Master’s footsteps in The Way..

When directly confronted with the overwhelming evidence and facts with respect to the wholesale corruption of the scriptures, the fundamentalist defensively responds with the rather absurd assertion that “God wrote the King James Version of the Bible”. Thus, no amount of rationale will convince them that because we are the prodigal sons of our Heavenly Father, and the Kingdom is within us (Luke 17:21), that all those who truly live a consecrated life will be shown the undefiled Word of God that can be accessed by journeying along the narrow path that opens the “strait gate” that leads to the indwelling Temple (1 Cor 3:16). The great truth which the modern Christian fails to comprehend is that, even in its corrupted form, the Bible as it has been passed down to us is sufficient to manifest the Living Word of God in the life of the individual believer. One only has to open the New Testament to almost any page to find the message: If the believer consecrates their lives — becomes teachable by releasing their minds from an adherence to the doctrines of men — forgive and judge no one — live a simple life that is unencumbered — do no harm to any of God’s creatures — and seek in solitude the companionship of the Lord in the inner Temple — that the Holy Spirit will Anoint and Teach you all the Mysteries of God as the believer begins the journey home to the Kingdom. If the believer begins to live the consecrated Christian life — free of the thinking and entanglements of this world — then the indwelling Word will reveal all things to those who are sincere in their search for the Truth.

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Hi! Nick Have you read the book? you should at least rear the life and teachings of Jesus part 4 of the book. And not be so quick, to make a judgement. Truth is where ever one find it. The spirit of Christ will lead us. (Satan is the current god of this world. Satan is a spirit conspirator manipulating the world by deception and by fostering the spirit of disobedience. While on this Earth, Christ admitted that someone other than himself was the current ruler of the world.

John 18:36 Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place.” NIV

Paul identified who was the god of this world and warned his followers that it was Satan who blinded the world to the glorious gospel of Christ.

2 Corinthians 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. KJV

Satan is deceiving the entire world and is fooling the world to worship a false Christ. The book of Revelation identifies Satan as the great deceiver of the entire world.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the Earth, and his angels were cast out with him. KJV

Paul preached to the Ephesians that mankind's true battle is against Satan and his demons.

Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. KJV

Peter stated that a Christian's enemy is the devil.

1 Peter 5:8 Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. 9 Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that your brothers throughout the world are undergoing the same kind of sufferings. NIV

Satan is the god of this world until Christ returns. The reason Satan is the current ruler of this world goes back to the Garden of Eden. When Adam and Eve disobeyed God and ate of the Tree of Good and Evil, they allowed Satan to rule them instead of God. If Adam and Eve had resisted Satan and obeyed God, then Adam and Eve would have been under the Government of God. By yielding to the lies of the serpent, they started the process of the whole world being under Satan's sway.

1 John 5:19 … the whole world is under the control of the evil one. NIV

Christ had to come to the Earth and live out his life as a flesh and blood human being so mankind can someday be free from the control of the evil one. Christ is called the second Adam. The first Adam failed in resisting Satan. One of Christ's objectives while on this Earth was to successfully resist the temptation of Satan. By successfully resisting Satan and obeying God, Christ qualified to become the ruler of the world at his Second Coming.

Matthew 4:1 Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 2 And when He had fasted forty days and forty nights, afterward He was hungry. 3 Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.” 4 But He answered and said, “It is written, “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.”' 5 Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, 6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written: “He shall give His angels charge over you,' and, “In their hands they shall bear you up, Lest you dash your foot against a stone.”' 7 Jesus said to him, “It is written again, “You shall not tempt the LORD your God.”' 8 Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9 And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.” 10 Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan! For it is written, “You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.”' 11 Then the devil left Him, and behold, angels came and ministered to Him. NKJV

Christ did not disagree with Satan concerning his ability to give Christ all of the Kingdoms of the World. He knew Satan was the ruler of this world and could turn them over to him if he so wished. Christ also knew that by obeying God instead of Satan, he would qualify to dethrone Satan at his return in power and glory. Overcoming Satan's temptations were necessary so mankind could achieve its true destiny.)

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