@Lightenup
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Jodi,
This passage is not referring to Jesus either:
Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Gene,
You said:
…or as you people believe , God killed a PREEXISTING God if that were even possible, “MORPHED” HIM into a human baby, and placed him into a body of a human women, and waited 9 months and then caused him to be born in disguise, as a human being, but really was a PREEXISTING God .
Gene, you have been here for probably over 1…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
That is sweet, thanks Berean!
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Jodi,
This verse you use is about Cyrus, not the Messiah.
Isaiah 45:12 It is I who made the earth and created man upon it. It was My hands that stretched out the heavens, and I ordained all their host. 13I will raise up Cyrus in righteousness, and I will make all his ways straight. He will rebuild My city and set My exiles free, but not for…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Gene,
Do you realize that you while you believe that Jesus came from God the Father implanting Mary supernaturally by the means of artificial insemination of David’s sperm, Jodi believes that Mary was implanted supernaturally by the means of artificial insemination of Joseph’s sperm, from what I can make out of what she wrote anyway. You believe…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Jodi,
This shows you that Jesus is identified by the Father as YHVH that created the world in the beginning of time:
Heb 1
“YOU, LORD, IN THE BEGINNING LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH,
AND THE HEAVENS ARE THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS;
11THEY WILL PERISH, BUT YOU REMAIN;
AND THEY ALL WILL WEAR OUT LIKE A GARMENT,
12AND LIKE A ROBE YOU WILL R…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Danny Dabbs,
Nice presentation to prove that before refers to “time” not importance.
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Gene,
You said:
Do I believe God had a “physical relationship with her? No I don’t because God is Spirit, he is not physical, but do I believe he did cause her to become pregnant with the Sperm of a descendant of king David , I certainly do believe that.
What you are describing would be “artificial insemination.” I thought Jodi believed that…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic 1 John 5.20 – Christ is not the true God? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Gene,
You said:
Perfectly United, with any person , does not mean you are that same person, you are just in agreement with that person, that is all.
I don’t believe that anyone that teaches that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are perfectly united thinks that being perfectly united means one person is that same person.
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Gene,
Please answer this question as directly as you can and be as brief as you can.
Do you actually believe that the Heavenly Father had intercourse with Mary to produce a son?
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Danny Dabbs,
Good response to Gene.
Keep it up 🙂
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Hi Carmel,
I agree that Jesus is in his glorified body at the right hand of the Father.
Blessings, LU
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Hi Berean,
Good words!
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
You’re welcome.
You said:
My understanding is that you see Jesus as existing as the same kind of being that our heavenly Father is, and that he is His only Son in that manner. You believe the angels (Sons of God) were created after Jesus.
That is correct, Jodi. I also believe that the Son, according to the flesh, did not exist until the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic 1 John 5.20 – Christ is not the true God? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
@Proclaimer
What do you call your doctrine?
Do you believe that the Father and Son are perfectly united?
Lightenup replied to the topic 1 John 5.20 – Christ is not the true God? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Proclaimer,
You said:
So two are God and the unity creates the essense of the spirit. In other words, a binity.
Do you call every group of two who are united in some way “a binity”?
Are you and your wife a binity?
Also, I don’t have a clue where you got the wording “the unity creates the essense of the spirit.”
Do you just make up what you…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic 1 John 5.20 – Christ is not the true God? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
@Proclaimer
You believe the Father and Son are not two persons who are perfectly united? Did Jesus say that the Father and himself were not one or did Jesus say that the Father and he were one?
Also, a couple of us are still waiting for you to address the Heb. 1 and Psalms 102 question asked of you two months ago. You can say that you don’t know…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Berean,
It must be Friday because, maybe I’m wrong but, you seem to put up a great worship song on Fridays 🙂 Each one has been completely different. That song was so peaceful, thank you!
God bless you my friend,
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Hi Berean,
You said:
I quite agree with what you think
I believe all the same that the Son has a beginning because at a given point “the eternity of the” divine substance “becomes Father and Son. Before that there is only GOD WITHOUT BEGINNING OR END AND AFTER THERE IS A FATHER AND A SON.Awesome that we agree on this important point. I want…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kim Clement – A prophet? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 3 years, 10 months ago
Keras,
Kim C has gone to be with Jesus, that doesn’t mean the words of the Lord that he has prophesied are without present and future benefit. His ministry led people to worship the LORD. That was good fruit, no?
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