Istari replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
Mike,You know it does no one any credit trying to answer 'Non-questions'!This is what fuels disputes because genuine questions produce genuine answers where genuine discussion is the aim.I genuinely state that I cannot see what your issue is. How can I answer a question that has no point to it. I would have to either see the fallacy that you see…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
Mike Your point is mute. Do you not see your climbing down step by step on every issue.Each step you step back on you create another frivolous point to discuss.You are misreading whatever you THINK you are reading because there is no issue with the wording that substantiates your claim.Straining at a gnat doesn't help your already dwindled…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
Mike,I think you really need to take a rest… Seriously!Those who do not believe in his name are already condemned … Mike, please…'Those who do not believe that that they stand a chance to win the race – are already condemned to lose it' Even before they run the race they have lost it…
Istari replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
Mikeboll64, Mikeboll64, Mikeboll64,I just read John 1:11-13…this is amazing… What are you asking me about it?It is a very concise 'Summary' of events…11: The Son of God came unto the Jews (The children of God) but the did not know him nor received him. Jesus was sent to the Jews but they rejected him.12: But, as many as DID receive him (The…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
Mike,I still do not understand what your issue is.I made the point concerning NAME meaning Power and Authority and gave you exampled of similar NAMES meaning Power and Authority but you appear to have just ignored them in order to pursue …what?Also, 'The Begotten Son of God' is not a name (although it amounted to nothing, You also failed to pick…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
Princess,Thanks for your support on this issue.To me, John's writing style has intentionally or unintentionally contributed to many aspects of Trinitarian belief. I would like to believe the latter because I think it was meant to be well intentioned in as much as it exposed the misbeliefs of the Jews and led onto Jesus explaining things that we…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
Mike,Again, we have gone over your question before but it seems that at the time it did not impact on you.Think back…. Did I not already say that the gospel of John, as in all Scriotures, is written AFTER the events took place and therefore references will be 'Post event'.Belief in the NAME OF someone implies the POWER AND AUTHORITY of that…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Should members be tiled for avoidance? in the forum About Believers Place 13 years, 7 months ago
SF,I was tidying my house today and came across print outs of WJ and KJ debates from around a year ago … They made very interesting reading when compared with their discourse today…I'll have a looksee if any if yours are there…!!
Istari replied to the topic Is jesus god the angel?? in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 7 months ago
All creatures in heaven are SPIRITS…Angel is the description given to a Spirit that is sent out by God to do his will.Therefore any and all Spirits who are sent to do the will of God are described as Angel.There are different category of Spirits and different ranks.Very few Spirits are mentioned by name or rank and they themselves are careful to…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Is jesus god the angel?? in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 7 months ago
Kerwin, et al,Why does anyone believe that any sort of angel/Heavenly Spirit has WINGS…Where on earth is this misconception drawn from?And Satan has horns, dresses in a red outfit and carries a pitchfork, and tortures fallen man in dispicable manners for eternity to his pleasure in the firey hell of Tartarus…!!! Right?And Cherubs are little…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
Mike,We have been through this before so I find it incredible (Not really knowing you) that you bring this up again… It does you no good nor shows you able to learn and move forward, heck your need to constantly repeat the same theme hoping that at sometime somehow someone somewhere will agree with you… Mike, do you have a…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
KJ,WJ,1) Did angels bow down to Jesus before he came as man, died and was raised again?2) Was Jesus 'Begotten' before he came as man, died and was raised again?3) Was Jesus a High Preist to his Father and God before he came as man, died and was raised again?4) Was Jesus given power and authority over his fathers kingdom before he came as man, died…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
WJ,What?
Istari replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
Jack,What?
Istari replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
WJ,It is certainly true that the glory Jesus had at his return to heaven was greater than the glory he had from before he came in the flesh.Jesus did not glorify himself, he asked only to return to what he had having accomplished his commission.It was God, his Father, who glorified him with the greater honour and status, as it is written in the…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Sophia for moderator in the forum Feedback, Suggestions, & Features 13 years, 7 months ago
Kar,At the risk of offtopicness.. I was just reading that verse… Weird eh?
Istari replied to the topic Sophia for moderator in the forum Feedback, Suggestions, & Features 13 years, 7 months ago
Hey, hi Kar! Fancy some lunch… It's midday over here!
Istari replied to the topic Sophia for moderator in the forum Feedback, Suggestions, & Features 13 years, 7 months ago
Expansion of T8's comment above:Publish and be slammed – unless you first ask and gain permission from the author!
Istari replied to the topic Who is 'The God and Father' of Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 7 months ago
Hi t8,First, thanks for deleted my mis-post … Easily done on my mobile…Any chance of editing writes?Then sorry for the wrong category.. I think I just didnt look carefully enough when I sCreated the thread.
Istari replied to the topic Sophia for moderator in the forum Feedback, Suggestions, & Features 13 years, 7 months ago
T8,Is your post as a Moderator (Enforcing forum rules and directions to Godliness) or as a personal comment?Can I suggest that, as Moderator, it would carry more weight (Perhaps post as 'Heaven' or add '' under your post) – just a thought!
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