Oh, WJ, saying 'there are many other things that Jesus did' is not naming three things that Jesus the God did?And in any case … My mistake, I meant – Before he came as Man.

WJ,You have answered with excellence according to your belief.They were to say the least.As for your question: God does not live in a flesh body nor does God appear as Man.There is no Scripture verse to say that God lives in a body of flesh nor appears as man.Proving a negative is impossible: it is not possible to prove what DID NOT HAPPEN – we…[Read more]

WJ,A God becomes NOT A God – then becomes A God again?Can A God become anything other than A God…?Can The One True God become something less than the One True God?Is The Son that One True God?Is The Father that One True God?Is The Holy Spirit of the Father that One True God?If All three are that One True God then when Jesus became 'a little…[Read more]

Keith,Out of interest only:Can you name three things that 'Jesus the God' did?Be as creative as you like but reference from Scriptures, please.

KarMarie,You are astounding. Where have you been hiding your pearls of wisdom.Your post has restored my confidence that there is anyone who understands: If I find five people in this forum… Three… Even One!Yes, Kar, you are that ONE.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 20 2011,12:49)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 18 2011,23:31)Istari wrote:Quote “This has now become an infamous 'Mikebollism'.”  Man that cracks me up, Im stealing that.Hey guys!  I have a crazy idea:  What if, instead of inventing names to ridicule me and coming up with new ways to insult me, you just hit me where it wo…[Read more]

Kerwin,You have missed something.But to let you in on the secret I'd have to pm you because there is someone who is very sensitive to the reality of truth who wouldn't like the truth to be told unless they agreed it first.Let me know if you want to know – you might not! You might prefer not to!

Irene,You are going to tell me that Jesus died so he is still dead.Jesus' sacrifice was his body and it is still dead…Or was it his blood – his blood was drained out of him…That's why he says, 'See my body – I am not Spirit. See the holes that they made in me, here in the feet and hands. Flesh and Bone … (Not Flesh and Blood) cannot enter…[Read more]

Kathi It is certainly true that we should Honor the Son as much as we Honor the Father because to the acknowledgement of one is the acknowledgement of the other.But Kathi, this is HONORING… not Worshipping!See your own statement: you Honor them both. You left out WORSHIP.Worship is not Honor – Honor is not Worship!Honor is part of Worship – but…[Read more]

Irene,I see a point you raised about Jesus no longer being like us.Yes, you are right – and I never said he was! I said he is Man in Spirit form! Is that 'being like us'?I also went on to explain how this 'man in spirit form' works: angels/Spirits that manifest themselves in human form on earth do not have recognisable features – they are…[Read more]

Irene,I'm sorry I missed your question.Please state again what the actual question is – just the question by itself.Thanks.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 19 2011,12:29)Quote (Baker @ April 18 2011,16:25)Istari!  You say that it has been establlished that Jesus is not an Angel!  That is falseIt certainly hasn't been established, or agreed upon by me.  mikeHa ha ha… My ribs are aching… Just read the AUTHORITY in that statement.Mike, what message is Jesus NOW de…[Read more]

Yeah – me too – even wizards have to sleep sometime (1:12am)

K,Hear me laughing… Good one!

Hi Kar,Thank you for your support. I have always said you are blessed.Yes, what you wrote is exactly what was meant.I keep asking for people to be mindful of 'then' and 'now' but they just keep mixing things up and creating confusion in their own minds.To them:How is Jesus Worshipped by Angels if he himself is an Angel?How is he raise above them…[Read more]

Irene,I was of the impression that that we had got over this 'God is a title' – that it was now mute – that when we say 'God' in context we mean 'Almighty God' YHVH, Jehovah.Irene, I think it can hardly have escaped your notice the miriad times I have written my ideas of 'God is a title'… I hardly think it was appropriate to put it back to me as…[Read more]

Kathi,There is Firstborn and there is First-born (Or First Born).The first is that ONE that is held most closely to the Father irrespective of birth order.Even an adopted ONE can become the Firstborn.The second, 'First born', is simply that: THE ONE that was born first to the father.Jacob was Isaac's FIRSTBORN … but yet it was Esau was that was…[Read more]

Hi Kathi,Phil 3:3, whichever way it is read, states that we Honor the Son (Even as we Honor the Father).Honouring is not Worshipping – honouring means giving credit.We do indeed give Credit to both Father And Son.That part is clear and is echoed elsewhere several times in Scriptures.We AGREE on that.However, you cannot extrapolate 'Honor' to…[Read more]

Scriptures says that we will see him come in like manner to that which he left – when he left he was Man.Jesus told the thief on the cross that he would be with him in Paradise – Paradise is Earth based – the abode of Flesh.Scriptures asks: 'To which of the Angels did God ever say…?'Scriptures says that there is only one potentate between God…[Read more]

There seems to be a prolonged debate concerning 'What' Jesus is.It has been established that he is not Angel.It has been established that he is not God.It is said that he I'd not Spirit.It has been said hr is not Man.So what I'd he?Jesus is MAN IN SPIRIT FORM.This is born out by references to his SPIRITUAL BODY which he will receive and put off as…[Read more]