Kathi,(Aside from my error in the poll -) can you see that there is 100% agreement to your poll question…Seeing that everyone agrees – what is the point of the thread?Please may I suggest that it may be better to ask the REAL question that you really meant to ask?

WJ,It is all Greek to me, too.- Further more – only just hit me : Which Son is NOT a BEGOTTEN SON?

Kathi,Where exactly is this thread going?

Hi Kar,The point of the man becoming like the Angels in heaven is simp to say that there is no intersexual relationship between Angels.The woman had several husbands so the question was 'Who single husband would she be?'Jesus replied, 'It won't matter because there will be no husband and wife in the new world unlike what man is instructed to do…[Read more]

Tim,You have some interesting views.

Hi Kar,I have written before saying that angels appearing temporarily have a shimmer about them.Stevens face shining like 'an angel' is only a phrase to describe how his face appeared. It has nothing to do with him being an Angel. If I said your smile was like sunshine to me would you conclude that you were a sun?At the very least it expresses…[Read more]

Kerwin,2 Peter 2:11, 'Whereas Angels, who are greater in power and might, do not bring a reviling accusation …'

Kathi,I, too, am completely confused as to what you are saying…In any case, God SENDS his Spirits as Angels to do his will (God makes his Angels Spirits)God makes his Ministers Flames of Fire (These are Humans called Prophets – not to be confused with the Angel AS flames in a bush)Can we move from Jacob to some other contribution.The point of…[Read more]

Sorry, Kathi, where did you get the term 'Eternal Father' from?

Oh,And Kathi – how many people are you referring to as needing to understand how God can be the 'Eternal Father'?I think you were asking your own question and seeking a way to answer it with our help.'Eternal Son' (Thereby making God 'Eternal Father') is after Jesus was BEGOTTEN, raised up to 'Son With Power' never to 'die…[Read more]

Kathi,Yes I did misread the question and add my vote to that which everyone else also voted for making the vote unanimous.Can you see why it would be unanimous – obvious really – no brainer!!As you can see from my initial posts – I thought – would have thought – imagined – that you were discussing 'Motherhood' based on the points of comment in the…[Read more]

Hi Kar,Yes… I didn't read the question properly because I thought Kathi's question would have been about 'Mother' which was the point from two other threads.It may be that Kathi realised she couldn't win on that so shifted the emphasis to the Father.Therefore, for me, this thread is pointless : there is only one answer and that is obvious….…[Read more]

Thank you Kathi,My mind was clear because I had already thought of it when it first came up, the first time, second, third and this time.I meant those who are earthbound ensconched in everyday common thoughts on matters.They may say, 'Of course….x y z' because that is their common everyday way of speaking.'Mom' is commonly used for … Ha ha ha…[Read more]

Kathi,Could you respond to the queries I posted concerning the 'mother'… Maybe the post was about the father, I don't know but my queries were concerning the 'Mother'.'Biological Father' is a term meaning the one through the fertilisation came.It is not the same as 'The Father' as in 'Fatherhood' which is what I believe the question is about.We…[Read more]

Hi Kathi,Thanks for that. It needs addressing so well done for starting it off.I don't think a poll is correct for this as many people will not have really thought about it correctly when they first vote. During the discussion to follow they may well wish they'd thought more deeply before voting.

'Hi Darling, guess what – you are GOING TO BE a Father''Hi sister, Great news – I'm going to be a Mother''Hi Mom, guess what – you are GOING TO BE a Grandmother'Why is said 'Going to be' if it is certain and a FACT..?

It is sentiment that makes one say 'Mother' before birth.New Motherhood is a very emotional state and everything needs to be done to make the prospective mother feel good.Calling her 'Mom' is one such way. It has the positive psychological effect of a reassurance to the woman that her pregnancy will result in a prophetic healthy full term…[Read more]

Mike,Since when did I stop talking to/with you?I talk to whom I will when I will as I am moved to!And when did you offer up Luke 3:38?Perhaps like WJ who put words to me as if I said them although he was in fact referring to your debate – why – yes, I do know why? You also refer to indirect or fictitious references. If you had asked me several…[Read more]

And WJ, I was still asking according to before incarnation so 3.5 years was not part of the question nor answer!

WJ,Once again your answers are excellent according to your belief.God's Spirit dwelling in us then is God himself.So God is his own Spirit… Ok! The Spirit of God is God himself…ok!Jesus was going before the Hebrews in the desert – WJ, I thought that was the Angel of God who had God's name (Power and authority) in him?