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Quote (theodorej @ Aug. 03 2008,00:14) Quote (ptr775 @ Aug. 02 2008,14:50) Quote (Irene @ Aug. 02 2008,11:59) Quote (david @ Feb. 21 2008,19:10) Posted by Ronald Weinland “2008…beginning in the spring time, things are going to begin happening here in the United States, and there’ll be about at six-month period of time that brings us to our demise…with nuclear weapons…I am a prophet…God has not sent a prophet for nearly 2,000 years to this earth; the last one was our Messiah…if someone says something and it doesn’t come to pass, they’re false. That’s what is referred to as a false prophet.” (Source: Radio interview KCOL 600, Loveland, Colorado, April 2, 2007) This is quoted by David. I did not say so, but Mr. Weinland did according to David. Peace and Love Irene Notice all the gaps (…..) in that quote? Greetings ptr…..You bring up an interesting point with respect to the likelyhood of 1335 day period fitting between Trumpets and Pentecost…..I would think that if you consider the repeatative nature of the time cycle all you would have to do is reference the sacred calander and examine how many times this could have ocurred in perhaps 19 years…or even 2000 years… Hasn't happened in the last 100, nor will it happen during the next 100.

RW is completely deceived. Was it not written that prophets were given to the body of Christ for administration?

“He gave some apostles, some prophets …for the building up of the body…”

and one such case is found in Agabus, who prophesied in Acts that there would be a great earthquake?? Jesus was NOT the last prophet – and there have been MANY prophets since.

“The spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.”

He needs to get a spiritual covering and renounce to the spirits of vainglory and pride.

[Hanoch]

I read part of the book, and in it, he says,

“…it is with great clarity…” that he puts forth these ideas of his.

Anytime a man has to say that “it is with great clarity” it means that he has had a time of NO clarity, and he THINKS he is experiencing a time when he has some sort of clarity, no?

The book is utterly untrustworthy.

[Hanoch]

Quote (ptr775 @ July 31 2008,18:13)

Quote (Hanoch @ July 31 2008,16:09) Quote (discipleelohim @ Feb. 21 2008,02:41) Ronald Weinland Predicts Large Attack On US & Opening of the Seventh Seal of Revelation & Begining of World War III APRIL 2008 IS THE BEGINING OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION ACCORDING TOO RONALD WEINLAND Has anybody heard of this guy? I stumbled accross him the other day at his websites: http://www.the-end.com http://www.ronaldweinland.com He seems too be a reputable member of the Church Of God and claims he is one of the Last Two Witnesses of which is stated in the Book Of revelation of the Bible. After listening too some of the interviews he has done in the interview section apperently by 2009 the US will not have a president? and in APRIL 2008 sees the opening of the Seventh Seal of Revelation as stated in the Bible (The Great Tribulation) where it starts with a massive attack on the US and Other Countrys which will lead too WW3. This then leads too the last three and half years of the great tribulation period and Christ return in fall 2011… KINDA WEIRD HOW IT ALL ENDS BY 2012? IN 2012 onward Gods Kingdom will supposbly Governing the Earth and will be Gods Time Too Rule. I suggest peeps should go check his websites out and start listening too some of his interviews, the are very concerning. EXTRACT FROM HIS WEBSITE BELOW 2008 – God’s Final Witness From now until the latter part of 2008, many prophecies are going to begin to be fulfilled, especially the Seven Thunders of the Book of Revelation, which the apostle John saw but was restricted from recording. Those thunders are revealed in this book, as well as detailed accounts of the final three and one-half years of man’s self-rule on earth, which are recorded in the account of the Seventh Seal of Revelation. Some of these prophecies concern the demise of the United States over the next two years, which will be followed by man’s final world war. This last war will be the result of clashing religions and the governments they sway. Billions will die! This time will far exceed even the very worst times in all human history. As these events unfold, the world will increasingly become aware of the authenticity of the words in this book and realize that Ronald Weinland has been sent by God as His end-time prophet. This book is primarily directed to the people of the three major religions of the world (Islam, Judaism and Christianity), whose roots are in the God of Abraham. Ronald Weinland has been sent to all three.   Book Website Originally posted by: TruthSeekers (ats) It is a false prophet. He doesn't understand that the two witnesses in the book of revelation is actually a symbol symbolizing the entire church. He doesn't know what he is talking about. And how would that be? Why would there be two of them when there is only one church? Is the whole church going to move to Jerusalem and be killed after 1260 days? The whole church would have to die, yet other prophecies talk of some being still alive and changed to spirit at the return of Christ.

Read the fine print: it also says that “all who are not written in the book of life” will worship the beast – and that all who worship the beast will have torment (spiritually — basically, they are judged). So, this means that ALL people are going to be wiped out when Jesus returns, except Christians? Daniel 7:11, 12 clears this up for us, showing us that there will be some who are left alive on the earth. It also speaks about how the son of perdition/little horn will have many enemies (meaning, they do not follow the beast).

Scripture must be understood in the light of Scripture.

The fact that the church is symbolized by the two prophets and that they die, doesn't mean necessarily that ALL will die — though MANY will.
The two prophets are Moses and Elijah, symbolizing the law and the prophets.
Zech 4; Mark 9:4 (Mt. of Transfiguration) and these are the two witnesses to the “love” commandment:

“On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

We wrote about this in another place…. maybe Nick or t8 can guide you as to where precisely?

[Hanoch]

Kimba08,Aug. wrote:

Truly uncertian how to Kindly address the Last Post of Hanoch? How Lacking in Logic this Post is, I have great trouble thinking a person of such intellect could even consider thinking this made sense enough to them and then to Write it and Post it for ALL to see, offered as counter-evidence of the validity of 2 peter 3:8

2 Pet. 3:
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day

This Scripture As Defining what length of time is God's Day? (as in Days of Creation by God)  I see Being Any length God so desires Short or Long And therefore his Days of creation were very unlikely our 24 hour time period as defined by Human days.

Hanoch's counter-Logic

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When God said “work for 6 days”, did he mean that men, who live for 70 years, should work for, 6000 years?

Hanoch uses reverse logic to arrive at above ie 6000 years of work and 1000 years of rest. This clearly ignores the phrase ” is With the Lord” in middle of Scripture reading  that one day is “with the Lord” as a thousand years
“With the Lord” not “With Man”
Next Giving the commandments God is Talking “With Man” about Man days 24 hours not a thousand years but just our one day – 6 days work no nonsense of 6,000 years.
Seems Hanoch has seen the futility of such and now states more uncertainly “I believe that it was”
QUOTE]was the heavens and the earth made in 24-hour days? “I believe that it was”

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This now from the total certainity that implied I was Slow witted Just 2 Posts ago not believing in his version of the Six Perfect 24 hour days of Creation in Human time. This to me is the Earth-centred of universe 1600's Logic that imprisoned Galileo for his Sun-centred view. Alas the Dark ages Loom again. I ask again is there any Logical Proof that What Peter is here saying, other than God's Day is not Same length as Our 24 hour Day. PLEASE – Answer This Question ONLY and do not Aviod it with BUTs or More insulting wake-up requests … KAB-41

“…God opposeth the proud…”
“… ye in Christ Jesus, Who has been made to us Wisdom from God.”
“… the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable…”

If your heart is humble, you will attain to the peace which wisdom brings; if not, Wisdom will resist you, and you will not have peace.

The truth of God calls for us to put aside our ego; if we don't let go, we cannot hope to see the truth, just as the Jews – however full of the Word they were – could not hope to see:

“Blind leaders of the blind!”

Relax, God's got it all covered…

LOL

[Hanoch]

Quote (Kimba08 @ Aug. 01 2008,00:20)

I don't think BIBLE Study and dicussion should be Given to this type of dicussion I Quote Hanock: 'What's up guys? How ya'll doin?” insulting one another leeds to more and I don't wish to return such but I AM fully Capable! Summary as  I see it We Both agree as Bible states God Creations took SIX Days but we don't agree in what a Definition is of What is a Day in GOd's Sight? You state 24 hours as OUR defintion is Well known, To keep it Simple. I aggree God wishes to Keep it Simple but by not Confussing Men. So our true difference Lies in Defining Day! You still have not answered my reference in below scripture? 2 Pet. 3: 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. What is Peter saying other than God's Day is not Same length as Our 24 hour Day. PLEASE – Answer This Question ONLY and do not Aviod it with BUTs or More insulting wake-up requests … KAB-33

You need to know when and where to apply certain metaphors:

“For everything there is a season, and a time for everything under the sun.”

“A word in season is like apples of gold in settings of silver.”

A word must be in season and properly divided in order for it to be a proper word; otherwise, you could make any idea seem correct.

When God said “work for 6 days”, did he mean that men, who live for 70 years, should work for 6,000 years? No. He actually meant 6 24-hour days – and on the 7th 24-hour day, rest.
Are there another meaning to this? Yes, since the law was a type and shadow of the things which are to come, but that is beside the point being made here and now – was the heavens and the earth made in 24-hour days? I believe that it was. Is it so hard to believe that God has the wherewithal to create in 7 24-hour days all of creation that we see… WHO ELSE HAS THE POWER TO CREATE??? Why limit His power to what you deem possible??? That's like the people arguing about the resurrection…
“well, what about if a person got eaten alive, and there are little pieces of him in a ferret and some of it is scattered everywhere, because a bear came by and scared the ferret away…”
If God is able to raise people from the dead, He is able to pull those little pieces of dirt together! He is able to create the known universe in seven days!

[Hanoch]

Quote (discipleelohim @ Feb. 21 2008,02:41)

Ronald Weinland Predicts Large Attack On US & Opening of the Seventh Seal of Revelation & Begining of World War III APRIL 2008 IS THE BEGINING OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION ACCORDING TOO RONALD WEINLAND Has anybody heard of this guy? I stumbled accross him the other day at his websites: http://www.the-end.com http://www.ronaldweinland.com He seems too be a reputable member of the Church Of God and claims he is one of the Last Two Witnesses of which is stated in the Book Of revelation of the Bible. After listening too some of the interviews he has done in the interview section apperently by 2009 the US will not have a president? and in APRIL 2008 sees the opening of the Seventh Seal of Revelation as stated in the Bible (The Great Tribulation) where it starts with a massive attack on the US and Other Countrys which will lead too WW3. This then leads too the last three and half years of the great tribulation period and Christ return in fall 2011… KINDA WEIRD HOW IT ALL ENDS BY 2012? IN 2012 onward Gods Kingdom will supposbly Governing the Earth and will be Gods Time Too Rule. I suggest peeps should go check his websites out and start listening too some of his interviews, the are very concerning. EXTRACT FROM HIS WEBSITE BELOW 2008 – God’s Final Witness From now until the latter part of 2008, many prophecies are going to begin to be fulfilled, especially the Seven Thunders of the Book of Revelation, which the apostle John saw but was restricted from recording. Those thunders are revealed in this book, as well as detailed accounts of the final three and one-half years of man’s self-rule on earth, which are recorded in the account of the Seventh Seal of Revelation. Some of these prophecies concern the demise of the United States over the next two years, which will be followed by man’s final world war. This last war will be the result of clashing religions and the governments they sway. Billions will die! This time will far exceed even the very worst times in all human history. As these events unfold, the world will increasingly become aware of the authenticity of the words in this book and realize that Ronald Weinland has been sent by God as His end-time prophet. This book is primarily directed to the people of the three major religions of the world (Islam, Judaism and Christianity), whose roots are in the God of Abraham. Ronald Weinland has been sent to all three.   Book Website Originally posted by: TruthSeekers (ats)

It is a false prophet. He doesn't understand that the two witnesses in the book of revelation is actually a symbol symbolizing the entire church. He doesn't know what he is talking about.

[Hanoch]

Quote (MichaelTheeArchAngel @ July 31 2008,02:43)

According to the following scripture it is impossible for Michael to be Jesus. Revelation 12:7-11 7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels (messengers) fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels (messengers) fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven (in Genesis God calls the earth heaven) any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels (messengers) were cast out with him. 10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. So how did Michael and his angels overcome Satan? by the Blood of the Lamb, and the word of their testimony So if Michael and his messengers overcame the devil by the blood of the LAMB, how is he the Lamb? Hebrews 1:5 For to which of the angels did He ever say: “You are My Son, Today I have begotten You”? And again: “I will be to Him a Father, And He shall be to Me a Son”?

Much beside the point, the Book of Enoch mentions Michael being one of the four presences — and Jesus as “the Elect one”. Very plain.

[Hanoch]

Scientists have to revise and revise their theories and laws; the commands of God will stand forever; better to base one's life on them, no? Science can explain WHY YOU SHOULD obey God, but they cannot DO the commandments for you. You could spend all day long counting the reasons why you SHOULD do something, but until you DO those things, they're still undone, and you have not done the command of the Lord.

[Hanoch]

What's up guys? How ya'll doin?

Right there is where you went wrong:

“I agree there was six days in creation — BUT”

Right there, where you said “but” is where you went wrong. In Hebrew, “but” means “everything I that was said up to this point: zero it out; it means nothing.” That is where you commence with YOUR IDEA, which is NOT GOD'S “IDEA”. You twist and contort something around; just leave it alone!

If man today can understand a billion, nomads can understand a billion, too.

“The hidden things belong to the Lord.”

God only wants us to know that which is profitable for us; you remember when Adam had a choice between the tree of life (that which is profitable) and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (what is not profitable), right?
Some things just ARE; you can trust them and use them to build upon as a foundation; you don't have to delve into them: there's nothing to delve into. God doesn't need you to do any work here in this area; just let it alone.
I think this is not even an edifying conversation (twisting the Word around to find a sufficient answer ), it is what it is, so… leave it be – I say… but then again, that's just me.

[Hanoch]

I do not think God made the Bible to be confusing, but very easily understood:

Gen 1:3
And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

Gen 1:6
And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

Gen 1:13
And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

Gen 1:19
And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

Gen 1:23
And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.

Gen 1:31
And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

Gen 2:1-4
Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.

By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested [a] from all his work.

And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.

This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created.

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Ex 20:9 “Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:”
Ex 20:11 “For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.”

Simple and straightforward. God bless!

[Hanoch]

What are you saying?

[Hanoch]

Could also use MSN Messenger.

[Hanoch]

Irene, if the Holy Spirit didn't exist as a separate Person, then why did they refer to Him as having an opinion in Acts 15:28?

“For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things…”

“It seemed good to the Holy Ghost.” Seems like the Holy Ghost is a Person from reading this. Also, think about how else He was described:

“Teacher” and “Helper”
John 14:26
“But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.
Okay, we have the Holy Spirit, then a separate entity, the Father, who sends the Holy Spirit, and we have Jesus, whose words will be brought to our remembrance BY the Holy Ghost.

How can someone who doesn't exist teach, comfort or help???
Why does the Bible refer to the Holy Spirit as a “He”; as an Being, if He didn't exist, and say that He will teach and comfort people, and that He had a teaching about doctrine in Acts 15:28, according to the prophecy in John 14:26? …

[Hanoch]

Quote (Kimba08 @ July 29 2008,01:26)

Hi GM: The Quote was not a day but “a second could be a thousand years”!!! Multiple it out 60 sec. X 60 min X 24 hours X 1000years/sec = 86,400,000 years per day! Although this may not equate exactly as Early Scientific evidence states ie carbon dating etc. But I think this an example only of what god's time is compared to ours. Now I'm going to go way out on Limb and see if it breaks. Hopefully God or Some kind angels will catch me if I Fall! Consider 2 universes side by side and Parallel to each other in space/time. One the Physical universe and the Other the Spiritual Universe. If you ask where is Heaven it is in fact right beside you in Spiritual Universe and remains so every-where on this Earth or in this Universe. Getting a Little String theoritical here Maybe, I don't know the Mechanics or Mathmatical Equations to prove this. Take this as a Theorectical Possiblity. Now Time is constant on our side but is non-existant in the Spirit side. Wow!, I told you out on a limb! Lets Go for Broke? With no time, no air there is no decay and no death. Eternal Life. Now as to god's time he just pooks his head out any time he wants into our Universe and He is Always the Same God as scriptures state same Today as yesterday and tomorrow.  He Creates this or that and takes as long as it takes and returns and that is a day to God. Comes back when things are ready for next Phase and creates whats next in his plan and this is second of God's days. Obiviously each day can't be equal in length but God has control over time Not time has Control over God. This is the KEY! It's Gods time not what we think a day is in Seconds or minutes? But just a continous time of God's Creating things, That is a God's Day. Hope this Works for you? As I said Can be hard to follow. Still some things left unanswered but this part covers the Creation in 6 dAys like topic requested. Is there a Daily Prize for Most original Insanity Posted?

LOL

[Hanoch]

What is interesting was the discovery of a tree which ran entirely through the so-called “era”s of the rock layers. A 65 million+-year-old tree?

Read about it here.

or here:

CEM Research and Polystrate Fossils

“CEM Research and Polystrate Fossils” Abstract:
Since the discovery and excavation of the Acrocanthosaurus dinosaur along the banks of the Paluxy River in 1984, the Creation Evidence Museum has been involved in researching and excavating polystrate fossils. Recently Professor Ian Juby molded the splendid ten-foot Lepidophloios polystrate near Cookville, Tennessee, then replicated the phenomenon as a pillar display at CEM. Such examples demonstrate rapid and catastrophic sedimentary burial, as opposed to slow sedimentary accumulation as envisioned by the evolutionary community.

Introduction:
“Polystrate” means “many layers.” The term refers to fossils that extend through two or more (often 8 to 10) layers of sedimentary rock. In The Collapse of Evolution, author Scott Huse wrote: “Polystrate trees are fossil trees that extend through several layers of strata, often twenty feet or more in length. There is no doubt that this type of fossil was formed relatively quickly; otherwise it would have decomposed while waiting for strata to slowly accumulate around it.” [1]

I. Examples of Polystrate Tree Formations…
In The Creation-Evolution Controversy author R.L. Wysong wrote about an unusual polystrate tree, “This polystrate tree penetrates a visible distance of ten feet through volcanic sandstone of the Clarno formation in Oregon. Potassium-Argon dating of the nearby John Day formation suggest that 1,000 feet of rock was deposited over a period of about seven million years, or, in other words, at the rate of the thickness of this page annually! However, catastrophic burial must have formed the rock and caused the fossilization, otherwise, the tree would have rotted and collapsed.”[2]

Evolutionist William Fritz documented that “Deposits of recent mud flows on Mount St. Helens demonstrate conclusively that stumps can be transported and deposited upright. These observations support that some vertical trees in the Yellowstone “fossil forests” were transported in a geologic situation directly comparable to that of Mount St. Helens.”[3]

II. CEM and Polystrate Research…
In July of 1984 the museum Director discovered the 40-foot long Acrocanthosaurus dinosaur and began its excavation on private property along the banks of the Paluxy River. Visitors came from as far away as China to observe the excavation. Most of the fossil bones and claws were deposited in the limestone matrix of the primary rock layer. However, many of the bones extended into the several inches of clay marl, and some of the claws and small bones actually extended into the next rock layer above.

By the late 1980’s our excavations had exposed the compressed fossil of a giant Lepidodendron club moss on private property. The compressed width of the coalified fossil measured 48 inches, and the root system extended 22 feet. Eight inches of the fossil were impressed into the base layer, most of the fossil continued up through the seven inches of clay marl, and four inches of the fossil extended into the rock layer above.

By 1995 our excavation team began excavating in Colorado where the museum Director discovered a dinosaur fossil bed on private property. The landowners gave to CEM a 30-foot Aracaria Pine at the fossil site. The normally “round” pine tree was compressed to an “oval” shape against the structure of its own form. Continuing excavations demonstrated that the numerous layers above the fossil compressed the horizontal tree while it was still pliable.

III. Explanation…
The Acrocanthosaurus dinosaur fossil and the Lepidodendron plant fossil are polystrates in the Austin Chalk/Glen Rose Cretaceous sedimentary limestone formation that literally extends to every continent on Earth. This observation is documented in The Nature of the Stratagraphic Record and The New Catastrophism by evolutionist Derick Ager.[4]

The Morrison Formation in which the Colorado pine tree fossil (now on display at the Creation Evidence Museum) extends through Wyoming, Colorado, Montana, Saskatchewan, Alberta, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, and Idaho (600,000 sq. miles).[5]

The only plausible explanation for such “mud and water” deposition of sediment over vast areas of the globe is a world-wide flood described in the Biblical record. Polystrate fossils attest to this phenomenon, and our new polystrate pillar display demonstrates this dramatically.

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[1] Huse, Scott M., The Collapse of Evolution, (Grand Rapids, MI; Baker, 1997), p. 96

[2] Wysong, R.L., The Creation-Evolution Controversy, (East Lansing, MI, Intervarsity Press, 1976), p. 366

[3] Fritz, William J., “Stumps Transported and Deposited Upright by Mount St. Helens Mud Flows,” Geology, 8[12]: 586-588

[4] Ager, D. The New Catastrophism (Cambridge University Press), 1993

[5] Morrison Formation, http://www.dinosaurs.com/de_4/5ca00c3.htm

[Hanoch]

It says very clearly when the 10 commandments were given, when they came to the Sabbath Day, to keep it holy:
“…for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and rested on the seventh day.”
So, we are to work six 24-hour days, and rest on the seventh 24-hour day.
This is very clear, and you can take it at face-value.
I've had the same questions, myself.

[Hanoch]

To be perfectly honest, though, I should have said more clearly the statement “where he belongs” I felt that, so that was wrong on my part. The train of thought, however, was led by God. I admit my wrongness in not saying it correctly, even as I was led by the Spirit to correct. I am in a process of perfection, unlike the sons of disobedience, who are not even concerned with being obedient to God. I've been wrong in the past – and that I admit; I am not infallible, but I am receiving correction through others from God… as well you should.

[Hanoch]

Quote (t8 @ July 27 2008,18:57)

Hey Hanoch. This topic is about the bible. And it is not wise to engage with people in this fashion. Yes the gospel is foolishness to those who are perishing, but there are better ways to talk to people. If they choose destruction that is their choice is it not? We can only help those who want help. That should be our focus, to spend out time on a harvest. Trying to make fruit appear in a barren plant is God's work. I think best thing you can do with someone who may oppose you is to ignore them if they do not respond in a good way. And I agree with Nick, that Stu represents a portion of the population and it is actually quite useful to have someone like him here because he represents a major religion of the world, i.e., non-belief in God. Also, many evangelists will tell you that hecklers are very useful, they draw the crowds at times. The glass is half full.

I guess you forgot the Scripture that says,
“What friendship do darkness and light have? Or what cocord does Christ have with Belial?”

The unbeliever is not interested in becoming a believer; just arguing and tearing your faith down:
“The thief comes not but to steal, kill and to destroy…”

And I garauntee you the thief is working in that one.

All who are unbelievers are under the sway of the evil one (the devil is working in them); you can't tell me you are going to “tolerate” conversation with the evil one working in the sons of darkness when you are the light; if you do, you are not in the light, period. The light hates the darkness:

“…hating even the garment defiled by the flesh.”

If not, you really need to get alot more fire, and to do that, you need to get under a ministry of man who is on fire for God, so you can receive the anointing from an anointed teacher Ps 133, and be discipled, as Jesus commanded that you be in Matt 28

Emotions are SUBJECT to truth; never the other way around.
Emotions are good, but a person is not to be inundated by emotions. A ship can float on water, but water INSIDE the boat is not good.

If a person speeds and breaks the laws and gets a ticket, no matter how angry the person becomes that he is getting a ticket, he cannot change the TRUTH.
Also, if you do not break the laws, you cannot get a ticket, no matter how emotional you are (though your emotions CAN lead you to break the law because of road rage or what ever).
Emotions cannot effect the truth. Emotions can make you break the law, but emotions cannot cause you to arrive to a spiritual place; only the truth can do that:
“..faith comes by hearing, and “hearing” by the Word of God.”

Faith doesn't come by emotions; therefore, emotions can either be IN LINE with the truth or REBELLIOUS to it. Since emotions are subject to the will, and it is the will which must be used to become obedient to God…
“If you are WILLING and obedient.”
…a person who is SUBJECT to THEIR EMOTIONS (which are reflections of the thoughts – regardless of their being obedient or disobedient – they hold to) the same one cannot be subject to truth:
“If you love… even your own life, You are not worthy of Me/cannot be My disciple.”
The Word “Life” there is the greek word that means “your soul life” meaning, your thoughts your ways, your emotions, your will:
“My thoughts are not your thoughts, My ways are not your ways — for as high as the heavens are above the earth, so high are My thoughts above your thoughts and My ways above your ways.” And His thoughts He has revealed in His Word. So, if we are not WILLING AND OBEDIENT (which involves the emotions being subjected to the truth) to the “hearing of the word” (truth), there has to be a reason: the pleasures, cares and worries of this world (your affections are not set on the things that are above Col 3:2 and this means you are not losing your life, and this means you cannot be Jesus' disciple until you repent of idolizing yourself with disobedience to His leading – everyone at one point or another is guilty of this and in need of repentance.

If someone if not a believer, and you have told them to repent, what more do you have to do with them?? Why discuss anything with them, seeing as how it is a demon you are talking with? Why waste your time? What truly are you doing for the Lord, then? You pretend like you're being diplomat, ignorant of the spiritual world. Why allow Satan to have any place? This is WAR!! Trust me, the devil wants to destroy you, he's not playing with you, so you better not play with him.
he is in every act of disobedience of the mind/faith (=unbelief), when he makes you regard the reward of unrighteousness as more valuable than eternal life… because of lack of prayer (the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak, therefore, get up and pray, lest you enter into temptation”

I had to call the person I live with to repentance at the risk of me getting kicked out onto the street, but guess what – he repented and is living for Jesus Christ from now on. The Lord had told me for a long time to CONFRONT, but I wouldn't, and because of my disobedience, I suffered under spiritual attack, but one day, I watched a program by Benny Hinn who echoed the words of St. Clement, “…(if we are under the anointing and led to do so) let us offend … men…”
if you have to offend someone, offend them with the truth! Truth hurts sometimes and it humbles men. No matter their emotions, no matter their mind, OFFEND (IF YOU ARE LED BY THE LOVE OF GOD, AS JESUS WAS)! Jesus offended those Pharisees.
People will be offended by the word of God, (Blessed is he who is not offended in Me.) and those are the people who need to hear the Word of God!!!!

“The Word of God is alive and sharper than any double-edged sword..” Jesus didn't come to bring peace, but a SWORD, and that SWORD will CUT and DESTROY the stranglehold of the darkness – what business do I have with darkness? Do I care to hear a single thought of a demonic unbeliever? No. They are under the power of the prince of the power of the air. Eph 2:2

What draws crowds is NOT the devil in hecklers; “If I be raised up, I will draw all men to Myself” Who draws crowds? JESUS — by His power that works in us Eph 3:20. Casting out demons, healing people, raising people from the dead, that is what draws people – holiness, destruction of the kingdom of darkness and putting the enemy to open shame – that's what draws crowds!!!

About saying “…where he belongs…” I said that wrong — what I meant was — where his place is prepared for him; where he is destined to go if he does not repent, and where he deserves to go (according to God) for not receiving the sacrifice of His Son, Jesus. You can argue with me, but you can't argue with God. I'm not saying that God created him for hell, because God wants all men to go to heaven, for that reason Jesus died – but if he continues in his way, in the light of all the truth having already been exposed to – then his proper place is there, in hell, and then into the lake of fire. This is not my judgment, but Gods:
“It will be easier for Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for you.”
I haven't cut off all hope for him at all — I'm just saying, let him walk on his way, and let God deal with him; not us; he's no longer our responsibility, except to keep in prayer if God moves us to do so.

[Hanoch]

To wit:
From what I have learned from “Drive Thru History” and other programs on Christ's death (not to sound like I am some kind of authority on the matter, since I am not and neiter am I a doctor) He died from drowning. When the person hangs like that, they cannot take a breath, and their lungs begin to fill with water and it also came from the heart: water gathering around the heart happens after a certain type of death/occurence (coronary embulism?)

For sure, a source of authoritative information is Lee Strobel.
This is, in part, where I've heard some of this information from – he used to be an unbelieving journalist, so he got sick of people trying to call him to believe in Jesus. This got him to attempt to build a case against the faith using his journalism skills — but all it did was make him a believer, and now he made this book called “The Case For Christ” and hosted an AWESOME program on TBN (I forget the name of it) wherein they go over the evidence for Intelligent Design — its really cool, try to find it.
That's all, ttyl man God bless you.

[Hanoch]

I say, find out the truth for my self; share it with others, and let them make decisions for themselves.
As for the compilation called “the Bible”, I say, “Let it be.” Also, to not speak except by love, even if it is “right”.
If I introduce to the community of believers that brings up more questions than answers or could shake the faith of some, I am then liable for those peoples' souls for that, soooo…. I would prefer to contain all of the answers, and once this has come to “full term” within me, then deliver it, God-willing. If not, then I won't want anything to do with it.
I've known it before but didnt' pay attention to the fact) that I've searched too much for mysteries — and not enough for the more practical aspects of the Bible: is it worth knowing many mysteries if I can't pay my bills because I can't keep a job because I have not been able to keep my mind straight or my emotions in check which makes me quit because I don't have a strong prayer life? No. I should pay more attention to those practical things, I think; and I have the freedom not to, but I should learn soon enough it is not profitable to chase mysteries only, but establish my foundation…

As for my papers, it's a long story, but, being in depression and not caring about what I knew would happen, I allowed a certain person to take a look at them and – I think he may have thrown them away – never got them back. However, it doesn't mean I can't do it again.

I have a better idea.
I'll take book 2 (Chs 37-71)
You take Book 1 (1-36)

For every verse, I'm sure there are something like 5 or 6 or more verse from “the Bible” that coincide with them; however, two or three of which I am aware.

TTYL

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