Yahshua the Messiah is Not Almighty YahwehModern day Christians believe that Yahshua the Messiah pre-existed in some form or another. Some say he was Melchizedek, some say he was “the captain of the host of Yahweh” (Josh.5:14), some say he was the archangel Michael, others say he was the “angel of Yahweh”. Perhaps the most erroneous view is that…[Read more]

Did Our Savior Pre-exist?For thousands of years, from the days of ancient Babylon, men have believed in a triune god. This concept of a triad of deities is a universally recognized doctrine. Whether speaking of Hindooism, Taoism, Buddhism or Christianity, all believe in a trinity. The Christian doctrine of the Holy Trinity states that all three…[Read more]

Nick,In Phillippians 2 when it says that Yahshua was “in the form of Yahweh”, it does not say that he was in the form of Yahweh in a pre-existence with Father Yahweh in the beginning.In the context of the passage it is speaking of being in unity with the Messiah. It is not explaining that he pre-exististed as a being with Father Yahweh. Note that…[Read more]

Quote REincarnation is the REtaking of flesh after fleshly life has ceased. There are diverse definitions of what reincarnation is. You have given only one definition.reincarnationAlso cf. incarnate

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 22 2006,23:54)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 23 2006,14:08)Even Muslims have a better understanding of how Yahshua did not pre-exist his birth than most Christians.Even Muslims deny that he was the son, the rock that the Church sits on.So of course they deny that, as they consider him as one of the prophets and we know that they…[Read more]

Nowhere in Scripture is it explained, taught, nor does it say … “he (Yahshua) with God (Yahweh) as a spirit being in the beginning and then emptied himself partook of flesh.”

Scriptures tell us Yahshua was flesh as we are flesh (2 Jn. 7). He had the same origin as his brethern (Heb 2:12 RSV). He really and truely died – ceased to live (Heb. 2:14; Acts 2:23; Eph. 1:20).This is powerful evidence that Yahshua did not pre-exist; that he did not live in a former life.” To accept the pre-existence of Yahshua is to accept…[Read more]

I do not believe Yahshua is the word of Yahweh but the spokesman of Father Yahweh's word (Hebrews 1:1-2; also cf. Yahchanan 3:34). Yahchanan 1: 1 does not say the word was Yahshua, but Yahweh. 1:1 which has been traditionally translated as “God”. He did exist in Yahweh's glorious PLAN from before the foundation of the world (Eph. 1:5,9-11; John…[Read more]

Even Muslims have a better understanding of how Yahshua did not pre-exist his birth than most Christians.Before Abraham was, I amJohn 8:58 is one of the most misused verses of the Bible. Because Jesus in that verse says “Before Abraham was, I am,” two implications, one unnecessary, and the other false, are drawn from that verse. The unn…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 21 2006,19:56)Hi Frank, Translations are only a problem to those who are not led by the Spirit. Those who are sons of God are helped to discern the accuracy of truth as written by the Spirit of truth within them.Yes Nick, I agree! Trinitarian translations are not a problem to me since I have figured out why they chose to…[Read more]

Why the Confusion? Because of the Trintarian translations that most rely on.???

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 18 2006,20:11)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 18 2006,19:55)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 17 2006,22:30)Hi Frank,God wants to teach you by His Spirit from within. He wants to write His laws on your heart so that you will need no one to teach you. The demons and the apostles knew what the Son of God really meant and that is why he…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 17 2006,22:37)Frank4YAHWEH can you explain is simple laymans terms what Jesus meant when he said “Before Abraham was, I am”.I don't need an explanation about him not claiming to be Yahweh, but how this doesn't mean that he existed before Abraham.In other instances where Jesus or anyone says I am, they are usually identifying…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 17 2006,22:30)Hi Frank,God wants to teach you by His Spirit from within. He wants to write His laws on your heart so that you will need no one to teach you. The demons and the apostles knew what the Son of God really meant and that is why he forbade them telling others. He is the Son of Proverbs 30 and Ps 2.Are you saying…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 17 2006,21:30)Hi Frank, Are you yet teaching what God has shown you or only presenting the discoveries of others?I am teaching what Yahweh has revealed to me through those who teach the truth.You are adhering to the shaky foundation and spoiled milk of the traditional Trintarian doctrine of a pre-existant son.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 17 2006,20:09)Hi Frank, Yes Anthony Buzzard has his devoted followers and we see much of his work here, and find it wanting. Jesus is truth. He is a plain speaker. He said all the things quoted and they can be found mainly in John. Of course some make an artform of finding alternative meanings to what the straightforward…[Read more]

The Nature of Preexistence in the New Testament by Anthony Buzzard “Within the Christian tradition, the New Testament has long been read through the prism of the later conciliar creeds . . . Speaking of Jesus as the Son of God had a very different connotation in the first century from that which it has had ever since the Council of Nicea (325…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 17 2006,00:44)Frank4YAHWEHIt sounds to me like you said Jesus couldn't have said this because it doesn't agree with what you believe.Surely we should let scripture teach us rather than telling scripture what to say?In this scenario, scripture is the teacher and we are the students, not the other way round.No, I am not say that…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 17 2006,00:50)Hi F4Y, No he would not use such an oxymoron as saying he pre existed.But he did say he was with the Father in heaven and had been sent from there and was going back. I believe him.Nick,You will need to give me Scriptural reference to your statment that Yahshua said “(I) was with the Father in heaven and (I…[Read more]

Nick?What do you believe he meant by saying this? He certainly did not say “I pre-existed before my birth here on earth.” since he did not pre-exist before his birth.