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    DORA replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Jan. 23 2005,23:15)Hi Dora, It appears that what you believe is not what scripture says:Micah 5:2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times. “(heb 1:1) “God, who at sundry times & in…[Read more]

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    if it is true that we could walk on water too then why hasnt anyone except Jesus…clearly Jesus was far superior to other humans…he was the anointed ONE, & heir of heaven & earth…he was flesh as we are & tempted in all points like we are but he never sinned…he was born without sin while all others are born sinners

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    DORA replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 10 months ago

    I believe the pre existance of Messiah, the anointed one, was his predestination…he did not exist as divine son until he was begotten in flesh…his birth was his beginning…(Ps 2:7) YVAH speaks of the son & decrees “this day” have I begotten youthe word decree means “an appointment of time or space”…it denotes predestination & not pre…[Read more]

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    DORA replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 12 2005,21:27)Hi Dora, You seem surprised that we do not  easily accept your understandings? Your assumptions and preconceptions are vastly different and tortuous.eg Son of Man means ruler-where does this come from?It is fine to share your understandings but not to teach them here.Here the truths from the Word of God are…[Read more]

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    DORA replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 10 months ago

    fyi, the term son of man meaning ruler is found in the encyclopedia judaica…dont you use knowledge of biblical history in your study?

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    here is a nuget of interest (at least it was to me ??? )the scripture where Jesus says “before Abraham was I am” is not used as it is taught to mean that Jesus is “the” I AMthe word before actually is used in the sense of being greater than & not as in a time…the correct rendering of that scripture would more accurately be translated, “I am greater…[Read more]

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    just a few comments & thoughts>>>was Jesus a pre existing thought or a pre existing deity that lowered himself into becoming a seed in the womb of a woman, which is the teaching of both trinity & oneness theology?Jesus was not a thought…he was purpose in the beginning…he was the purpose for the creation & formation of all things…the…[Read more]

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    DORA replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 11 2005,08:24)Hi Dora, You do not have the right to change scripture. Scripture reveals that Satan tested the Son of God in the desert. To allegorise Satan is to change scripture. It is to take away from scripture. I am sure you know there are dire warnings for those who add or take away from the Word of God.Hebrews 1…[Read more]

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    DORA replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 10 months ago

    where do you get that logos was 1st born? that isnt written anywhere in scripture is it? logos = divine intellegence (wisdom) expressed…it is God expressing Himself in word or breathing out of Himself, which is His Spirit that is holyin (prov 8:22) wisdom is speaking (logos)…”the Lord (YVAH) possessed me in the beginning of His ways, before…[Read more]

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    DORA replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 11 2005,18:09)Hi Dora, I like your concept of Yeshua as light in the beginning. He is the light of the world. But it does say the earth existed prior to light. The Earth is the round orb in the created universe but perhaps it looked more like the Moon or Mars?The other problem is the implication that Darkness existed…[Read more]

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    DORA replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 11 2005,18:09)Hi Dora, I like your concept of Yeshua as light in the beginning. He is the light of the world. But it does say the earth existed prior to light. The Earth is the round orb in the created universe but perhaps it looked more like the Moon or Mars?The other problem is the implication that Darkness existed…[Read more]

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    DORA replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 11 2005,08:06)Hi Dora,Conception is nothing like begotten Dora.Begotten is derived directly from. Conception derives from two, not one.An image derives directly from the original. The Logos is the image of the Father. He is the only begotten Son of God. All other sons,including Adam, were created. No other being was…[Read more]

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    DORA replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 11 2005,05:05)Hi Dora, Born is not begotten. The Son of God was begotten in the beginning before time or the creation of all things, which were made through him.He is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON.So if other sons exist then he pre existed them.But firstborn implies status and preeminence in all things.He was sent into into the…[Read more]

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    DORA replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 10 2005,02:12)Hi Dora,Are you saying the firstborn and only begotten Son of God did not have a separate nature and being from the Father in the beginning? The other sons of God did They shouted for joy when the foundations of the earth were laid by the Son of God as agent for the Father.as for the son of God, Jesus,…[Read more]

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    DORA replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 10 2005,21:25)Hi Dora, The book of Genesis tells us the Earth was created before light. Gen 1f” In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. And the earth was formless and void and darkness was over the surface of the deep;and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.Then God said 'Let there…[Read more]

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    DORA replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 09 2005,20:22)Hi Dora, No man has seen God as many scriptures tell us. Ezekiel saw a vision of God , similar to the vision John saw in Rev 4.3.Both say” a figure with the appearance of a man”and the mention of a rainbow of His glory surrounding Him.i didnt say any man had seen God…in fact i made it clear in earlier…[Read more]

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    DORA replied to the topic Logos in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 10 2005,02:12)Hi Dora,Are you saying the firstborn and only begotten Son of God did not have a separate nature and being from the Father in the beginning? The other sons of God did They shouted for joy when the foundations of the earth were laid by the Son of God as agent for the Father.Nick, i'm saying that the son of…[Read more]

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    nick, got an email from you but dont know how to access…help, lol

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 11 2005,04:13)Hi Dora, Why would we need sexual function in the millenium and beyond when we have the heavenly body? We have bodies that do not wear out. Sexuality is of earth and of the flesh. It is for carnal pleasure.But Jesus showed it was not necessary even in a natural body so why the eternal? It is a instinct, I…[Read more]

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    i have tried to use the bold & underline, etc, but they dont activate…what am i doing wrong? :p

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