Quote (vicalcabasa @ July 21 2005,15:02)1 Cor 8:66 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. One God the father FROM whom all things came One Lord Jesus Christ THROUGH whom all things cameThe father…[Read more]

IAR,What you are sharing for the most part does not bear witness with what I have found so far in the word, so thanks but no thanks. Still look forward to your scriptures though.

Quote (Guest @ July 20 2005,19:06)Hello Cube,Everything the YHWH of hosts from heaven did after He entered into the body prepared for Him in the womb of the virgin was done as a full human being.Joseph in Egypt is a type of his authority as a human. Only in the throne is the Father greater than He, as Joseph was to Pharaoh. Paul told us that He…[Read more]

So the major thing that doesn't add up is that:We have “Thus saith YHWH/LORD of Hosts…” about his servant/son to come: eg. Is 9:6; 42; 53; Mal 3:1, Ps 22 and all those scriptures.And you say this is the Son prophesying of himself with a different identity? Then we have the fulfillment of the prophecies. Yeshua is born among men. (According…[Read more]

Quote (Christofer @ July 20 2005,10:44)You have said Yahweh is the Father – but ignore scripture that clearly shows Yahweh was seen by many people at different times. Whether a vision – or not – seeing Yahweh is seeing Yahweh…Jesus was pretty blunt about Father… but you first have to accept His words about the Father before you can see that…[Read more]

Quote (Cubes @ July 14 2005,19:13)Quote 13.  Did Isaiah write that the voice would prepare the way before YHWH? 14.  Was that same voice identified as John the Baptist in the NT? 15.  Did John the Baptist prepare the way before Jesus? 13.  Yes.14.  Yes.15.  Yes, as Jesus comes in the Father's stead, according to scripture, to declare the Fathe…[Read more]

A.  Jesus cannot be YHWH because when he quoted YHWH, he quoted YHWH as his God and/or Father, not as “self” quotes.  From Matt 4:Three times he was tempted by Satan in the wilderness, and he responded with scriptures that point to YHWH: Temptation 1)  If thou be the son of God change the stones into bread.JESUS:  MAN shall not live by bread alo…[Read more]

Quote (liljon @ July 15 2005,18:00)Vical Jesus is YHWHIf Jesus isn't YHWH then what about Romans 10:9 with Joel 2 1 Cor 1 and Acts 4:24Zechariah 14:5- with Acts 1:11Plus he is called Our God and Given titles that God hasKing of Israel, Lord of Lords, King of Kings, God, Lord, Mighty God and even YHWHHi liljon:Responses are with the…[Read more]

Hi Vic,Great contributions. I especially like the parable about the Land/Vineyard owner because it is one of the clearest, straightforward and simplest explanations in scripture.

Quote (epistemaniac @ July 15 2005,06:51)why is Jesus referred to as the mighty God then vic?Isa 9:6  For to us a child is born,   to us a son is given;and the government shall be upon his shoulder,   and his name shall be calledWonderful Counselor, Mighty God,   Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”Hi Epistemaniac:His name SHALL be… Mighty God…[Read more]

I tend to understand him as the Psalmist said:Psa 51:11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me. The person in question is our God. How he sends his spirit and presence to us I cannot say, but he does it without exposing us to his Consuming Fire.

Quote (Guest @ July 14 2005,19:28)As I read it, the prophet of the Highest is John the baptist.13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John. 14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth. 15 For he shall…[Read more]

Another body of scriptural text, another witness to the fact that Jesus is not the same being as GOD, or with equal ranking.67 Now his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Spirit, and prophesied, saying:68 “Blessed is the Lord God of Israel,For He has visited and redeemed His people,69 And has raised up a horn of salvation for usIn the house…[Read more]

Quote 13. Did Isaiah write that the voice would prepare the way before YHWH? 14. Was that same voice identified as John the Baptist in the NT? 15. Did John the Baptist prepare the way before Jesus? 13. Yes.14. Yes.15. Yes, as Jesus comes in the Father's stead, according to scripture, to declare the Father to us.A study of Mal 3:1 in…[Read more]

Quote 8. Did Jesus identify himself as “I AM” (Jn. 8:58)? 9. Is there any other “I AM” that Jesus could have referred to in the OT other than Exo. 3:14? Hi Diana,Interesting set of questions. I shall try to address #8 & 9 at this time:Q: Mat 16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? A: Mat 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said,…[Read more]

Forgive me, Diana, I have been misspelling your name all over this forum. I've got it now. Yeah, Col 3:18 comes in pret`ty handy! The poor babies.

Hi Diane,Hi ChristoferWe can explore together.  I agree that no man has seen God.Israel knew only One God who revealed himself to be YHWH.When Jesus came, he did not profess or declare himself to be that God, but rather the son of that God.  The conflict was not that He was YHWH but rather the Son of God.  And his various quotes (Is 61, period of…[Read more]

It helps t8, and he did declare them as “good” when the work was done and blessed them both, so it is not a matter of inferiority or superiority.But Diane, they were here first–like it or not! I know you understand. You sound like you do.

Quote … because this truth was written by Paul when he wrote to the Colossian believers regarding their past action of receiving Jesus in a personal basis and not as a group or as a congregation,I agree: It is most definitely a personal decision and judgment is on a personal basis. You can find that in Deuteronomy 18:18-19; & John 3:18. Quote…[Read more]

Hi guest:Thanks for your contribution, and I wholeheartedl agree that Jesus is Lord of Creation. No man comes to the Father except through him and he is my Lord indeed. But that is not the point, is it? The point is this: Is he the same BEING as YHWH/FATHER/GOD ALMIGHTY as the majority of other christians propose? You haven't said that he is,…[Read more]