Ed!  First of all you do give us good Scriptures, but does these Scripture convey the preexisting of Jesus?  No, and that is this tread all about…… First of all I compared John 1;1 with Rev. 19 which shows Jesus who became flesh in verse 14 of John 1:1.  Then in Re. 19 shows that Jesus will come back as The Word of God and King of Kings and Lo…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2011,08:33)Quote (Baker @ Feb. 01 2011,22:47)The words YOU speak, do they make you, you? GeorgHi Georg,They sure do!Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH! יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)Yes, they…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2011,13:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 01 2011,13:26)And that still leaves a couple questions unanswered.Is the finger OF Ed the BEING of Ed?Is the Father of Jesus God?  Or only a part of God that is not the “entirety of God”?mikeHi Mike,The mind of Ed is Ed.The Spirit of Ed is Ed.The finger of Ed is Ed.The HolySpirit(God) is…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 01 2011,23:12)Georg………..A word (IS) the expression of the MIND a Word is (INTELLIGENT UTTERANCE) God and his words are one and the same , If his Words are (IN) you then GOD is (IN) YOU. This is the same for us as well as it was for Jesus. You still do not understand what Spirit really is. IMOpeace and…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 02 2011,00:59)thankfull…………> Spirits do not have Bodies,  Spirits are what is (IN) bodies. GOD who is Spirit was and is (IN) Jesus and can be in you Just the same way as he was in Jesus. peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………….geneFirst Jesus was in God, now God is in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 01 2011,13:16)Wow Georg,I'm terribly sorry that my conversation with Ed was bothering you in some way.  But since you butted in:Show me again the SCRIPTURE that teaches us all so clearly that our spirit is our MIND.  Because I think I must have overlooked that one somehow.I DO remember Jesus teaching this:“What comes out…[Read more]

Theo! And that Word of God became flesh, and will come back to strike the nation…..is that Jehovah God too? Not all when it says Word is Jehovah God 's Word, why is it that you and others can't see the compassion. that is what we are debating here on this tread. However to say that the Holy Spirit is the Word of God , is far out…..that…[Read more]

Gene! Jhn 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. Jhn 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. Jhn 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2011,10:42)Quote (Baker @ Feb. 01 2011,10:14)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2011,04:02)Quote (Baker @ Feb. 01 2011,03:48)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 01 2011,01:01)Georg……….So you are serious right, then why reject the Scriptures EDJ Posted then. Like Isiah 44:24, and Rev 4:11, you can't answer them so you people try to attack…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Feb. 01 2011,20:36)Mark and George: God bless you and your words, they will come to pass as you have stated them. You have chosen wrath of God and forsaken the salvation of Jesus. The entire work of Jesus was to take away sin and save mankind from destruction. You both have chosen your way to believe. My God is here! If your god…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 04 2011,17:56)Georg,Philo of Alexander was more aware of the culture and way that Jesus, Paul, and other Jews of his time thought than you do.  It is only the arrogant that ignore the cultural context of scripture as it is clearly written that Paul would be a Jew to a Jew and a Gentile to a Gentile. If you know God n then It…[Read more]

Hi! Mike gave us good Scriptures, however some don't know how to take them….and that is why it goes on and on and on…..1Cr 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. A Spirit needs a body to exist, but a Spirit does not have a body….you figure that one out….Peace Irene

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2011,09:39)Quote (Baker @ Feb. 01 2011,06:29)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2011,02:25)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 01 2011,02:20)To All…………The “WORD” is GOD and NOT Jesus, and GOD was (IN) Jesus Speaking through Him.  But that does not make the person Jesus speaking GODS Words,  GOD,  no more then if your were to Speak GO…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 01 2011,08:06)Quote (Baker @ Feb. 01 2011,07:18)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 01 2011,06:54)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 31 2011,04:38)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 31 2011,04:34)The glory is that which he received of God His Father when He brought him forth into this world as His Only Begotten Son and anointed him as His Christ, and savior of all…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2011,01:01)Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 30 2011,00:19)Hi brother Kerwin, Tim and Georg,I appreciate your wonderful responses on this thread. In fact as a Christian I can understand all your logics on Vicarious atonement of Jesus. But I am not fully convinced on these arguments with reference to Jewish views on Original sin and Sin…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2011,04:02)Quote (Baker @ Feb. 01 2011,03:48)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 01 2011,01:01)Georg……….So you are serious right, then why reject the Scriptures EDJ Posted then. Like Isiah 44:24, and Rev 4:11, you can't answer them so you people try to attack the person and think by your stupid word play that makes you right.…[Read more]

Quote (thankful @ Feb. 01 2011,07:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 15 2010,08:19)JA – from the “Was Jesus Always Superior” thread:Quote Bodies…Spirits do not have bodies…what's with you?1 Corinthians 15 NIV35 But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?” 38 But God gives it a body as he has determined, and…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 01 2011,08:06)Quote (Baker @ Feb. 01 2011,07:18)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 01 2011,06:54)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 31 2011,04:38)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 31 2011,04:34)The glory is that which he received of God His Father when He brought him forth into this world as His Only Begotten Son and anointed him as His Christ, and savior of all…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 01 2011,06:54)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 31 2011,04:38)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 31 2011,04:34)The glory is that which he received of God His Father when He brought him forth into this world as His Only Begotten Son and anointed him as His Christ, and savior of all mankind, and as his heir, and that he exalted him to His right hand…[Read more]

Hi! Prayers is a powerful tool and God answers as He sees fit. Some that have a pain in the side, like Paul did, might not be healed. For whatever reason God has, we have to except what God wants for us. Out of my own experience I seen that we learn patience throughout those trials…..I appreciate all of the prayers that have gone up to God…[Read more]