Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 04 2011,02:42)Marty……..You have it right Jesus did (NOT) PREEXIST His berth on earth as a sentential being of any kind, he existed only in the Plan and Will of GOD, which he has for all mankind and Jesus was the (FIRST) to reach that Goal (FROM HUMANITY). You have it right brother don't let these deluded…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Feb. 04 2011,00:57)George,God sent his spirit, which was from himself, and manifested himself in Jesus. Unlike any other man ever. The only one to be literally God and Man.  Jesus himself said “when you see me, you have seen the Father as well”.I don't understand it, but I believe him. It is what the spirit tells me from his…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 03 2011,17:00)EdJ………….No it is not IMO.There is no bigger LIE in all Christendom that the teaching that Jesus Preexisted as a Being  before His berth upon earth. IMOpeace and love…………………………………geneThe fact that this “IS” what the Bible teaches, makes “YOU” the biggest liar, and rejector…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 03 2011,17:22)Georg……….This is accomplished by the SPIRIT of GOD it is the common denominator among God , Jesus, and all (TRUE) Disciples and A TRUE DISCIPLE of Jesus (CAN) do GREATER WORKS then HE DID. But you preexistences do not believe that even though Jesus himself said it.  Because you are the decedents of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Feb. 04 2011,00:35)We are all outlaws Tim, thats why God became man and died for us. Thank you Jesus.MikeGod did not become man, he send his son, Jesus.Georg

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Feb. 03 2011,20:25)You have been told that the law was temple rules for sacrifice by someone and you accepted that by faith as your personal belief. I do not believe that to be of the truth.The Jewish nation was self proclaimed chosen of God. They were not a bloodline from Abaham and not chosen. They had usurped their position…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 28 2010,09:59)This is just an idea, and I want to gauge your response to it.As you already know, we have 2 sections for this site.1) Believers Area2) Skeptics AreaIMO, I think this has improved the quality of posting because every topic was in danger of becoming a debate about the existence of God and that has stopped now.However,…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 03 2011,01:16)…………Notice the two translations you gave , why are they different . I have no problem accepting Jesus as the one who GOD was Summing His whole creation  (in) the perfection of Gods creation is shown  (IN) and through Jesus. That is no problem for me , but when it goes beyond that to try to say J…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 02 2011,14:55)Irene……..Its not me making you dizzy , it you lack of understand scriptures that is. Jesus plainly said he was in the Father and the Father was (IN) him, and even More He said he was (IN) his disciples and His disciples were in Him . How do you think they are all ONE.  You simply do not understand…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Feb. 03 2011,11:15)Hi all, im pretty sure that “thankful” is JA or istari alais.if im wrong pls correct me.Are you kidding me, She does not sound like JA at all….Irene

IF WITH ALL YOUR HEARTS From Mendelssohn's ElijahYe people rend your heartsRend your hearts and not your garmentsFor your transgressionsThe prophet Elijah hath sealed the heavensThrough the Word of GodI therefore say to yeForsake your idols, return to GodFor He is slow to anger,, and merciful, and kindAnd gracious, and repenteth Him of all…[Read more]

Quote (thehappyman @ Jan. 22 2011,10:04)Keeper of the door when my name is called and answered in heaven's portalsif I had but one wish granted, this I know after I have had a while to talk with Jesus then I'd like to be the keeper of the doorChIf I could see the smile on every face that entered,shake the hands of all the friends I used to know…[Read more]

Marty! Good, praying to God for the truth is very good.  Let me tell you something, I did not always believed that Jesus preexisted at one time either.  But Georg and I started to look at those Scriptures which I gave you and others.  There is no either being that fits Rev. 19:13-16, which then shows us that John1:1-14 is the same being, Je…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 03 2011,01:37)Quote (mikeangel @ Feb. 02 2011,23:24)Irene,It seems that to me, the ones who say Jesus is not God Almighty stick on the scripture “my Father is greater than I”, and we who believe he is God stick on him saying out of his own mouth “when you have seen me, you have seen the Father” and “The Father and I…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Feb. 02 2011,23:24)Irene,It seems that to me, the ones who say Jesus is not God Almighty stick on the scripture “my Father is greater than I”, and we who believe he is God stick on him saying out of his own mouth “when you have seen me, you have seen the Father” and “The Father and I are one”.Maybe thats where you are right…[Read more]

I am reading some of this, and why are you debating that Jesus is God? Hbr 1:8   But unto the Son , Thy throne, O God, for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness the sceptre of thy kingdom.   Hbr 1:9   Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.  …[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 02 2011,15:26)Please pray for anyone you know that might be in the path of this cyclone. Any members from Northern Queensland?t8  I have not watched the News is this Cyclone coming our way? We will pray for all that will be effected by this…..Georg told me that it was on the news today…..The United States is having more snow…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Feb. 02 2011,21:34)To all: Here is an interesting truth.  Look up the word that was translated as “things”!!  Its the greek word “logos”! According to my Strongs Exhaustive Concordance throughout the New Testament the word “thing” is almost always “Logos” the word of God!!In him are all words….and  by him are all words. Ju…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 02 2011,14:55)Irene……..Its not me making you dizzy , it you lack of understand scriptures that is. Jesus plainly said he was in the Father and the Father was (IN) him, and even More He said he was (IN) his disciples and His disciples were in Him . How do you think they are all ONE.  You simply do not understand…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Feb. 02 2011,10:37)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2011,08:33)Quote (Baker @ Feb. 01 2011,22:47)The words YOU speak, do they make you, you? GeorgHi Georg,They sure do!Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH! יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34…[Read more]