Quote (Tim Kraft @ Mar. 10 2011,21:48)Satan: The Hebrew word for Satan is “Satan”:  An opposer, An opposite, The accuser!Gene you are right on target! If a man goes out today and preaches the truth of the Gospel the greatest opposition he will receive will be from the religious leaders. The first people to point a finger at you and call you a…[Read more]

WJ and KJ! Who is The Word of God inRev 19:11 ¶ And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Rev 19:12 His eyes as a flame of fire, and on his head many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. Rev 19:13…[Read more]

To all!  The WIKIPEDIA the free Encyclopedia says thisA soul, in certain spiritual, philosophical, and psychological traditions, is the incorporeal essence of a person or living thing or object. Many philosophical and spiritual systems teach that humans are souls; some attribute souls to all living things and even to inanimate objects (such as…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 09 2011,14:17)Hi Irene. It is certainly an interesting topic and you raise some pertinent verses on the subject.Quick question: If Hell/Hades doesn't exist, why is it said to be thrown into the Lake of Fire? And why does Jesus give a parable based on it?t8 I( did not imply that there is no Lake of Fire, there is in Rev. says so.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2011,14:07)Hey Irene,I'll try to find the Jodi Lee “Satan” thread.  We can talk over there about it, because the post I made was killer, and maybe Gene hasn't seen it.Besides, this is way off topic here. mikeMike! Sorry I went of Topic, but didn't know if you seenthat tread where Genn made that post….Peace and Love…

Mike! read this, yes Jodi is someone else who does not believe in a Satan…To all……Back to the thread……….> the word I am has nothing to do with the word Lucifier at all. The word Lucifer means rising star as the king of Babylon was before God cut him down, It has nothing to do with an elusive (BEING) called a devil,or a Satan. Pure…[Read more]

t8 and WJ If there is a holding place then these Scriptures contradictEcc 3:19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all vanity. Ecc 9:5 For the living know that they…[Read more]

Quote (theodorej @ Mar. 08 2011,23:18)Quote (Baker @ Mar. 08 2011,14:35)Quote (theodorej @ Mar. 06 2011,23:59)Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 04 2011,08:34)Theodore, I was reading, the early church 'fathers' writings seems to suggest they believed (120ad-ish) that the 'restrainer' Paul was talking of was Rome. And they believed Rome would break off into…[Read more]

karmaria and SF I agree with both of you…… Peace Irene

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 08 2011,14:18)Quote (Baker @ Mar. 07 2011,20:58)He is the one who does not even believe that Satan is real.Are you kidding me?  peace and love to you,mikeNo Mike, I am not kidding you. I brought the tread up for you, it is in “i am”is Lucifer title, in Truth or Tradition….above this one. I think there is another tread,…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 10 2010,00:24)To all……Back to the thread……….> the word I am has nothing to do with the word Lucifier at all. The word Lucifer means rising star as the king of Babylon was before God cut him down, It has nothing to do with an elusive (BEING) called a devil,or a Satan. Pure apostate teachings. There is (NO)…[Read more]

Hi, I agree with Wm. Those that think there is a Hell, are deceived by men. I d believe in the Lake of Fire, though. t8 gave good Scriptures, that all wicked will perish. That is the second death. Coming out of the Catholic Church we believed in Hell. Even in a purgatory… But that was before we ever read the Bible. That is one way to…[Read more]

Quote (theodorej @ Mar. 06 2011,23:59)Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 04 2011,08:34)Theodore, I was reading, the early church 'fathers' writings seems to suggest they believed (120ad-ish) that the 'restrainer' Paul was talking of was Rome. And they believed Rome would break off into ten kingdoms (from) the broken Rome. And that the antichrist would come…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 08 2011,01:24)Terricca…….. Show me (ONE) Scripture in black and white i rejected. Another LIE, which you seem to have a clear problem with.You call every one who disagrees with your distorted preexistence views a Skeptic or Satan Just like the Pharisees did Jesus , . But the fact is it is you and people like you who…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 08 2011,11:44)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 07 2011,08:24)Terricca…….. Show me (ONE) Scripture in black and white i rejected.How about brown and white?John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and…[Read more]

Pierre! This is what you said to SF, God focused on the righteous, but you are not a righteous person, so misconduct is normal for you.you are wrong,God as his eyes focused on the righteous ,but you are not a righteous person ,so misconduct is normal for you, ( Quote)That is not judging? karmaria thought so too….Peace Ireneeveryone works with…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 02 2011,07:20)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 02 2011,13:54)I Think God doesnt care about such things. Its stupid, and totally centered around Man's goverment and politics.SFyou are wrong,God as his eyes focused on the righteous ,but you are not a righteous person ,so misconduct is normal for you,everyone works with his…[Read more]

Paladin!  Tell me how does a Word logos become flesh, if it is not a person, as in this case.  I gave you Rev. 19:13-16 which you did not respond to yet.  Reading what you said to Mike.  I was really surprised that the example you gave of a man, and man.  now consider, Mike, those nails you pared are not “a man,” but they are “man,” and with due…[Read more]

Paladin! I read what you said to Pierre. I would agree with you that in John1:1 it is just Logos. But that logos became flesh. He became the Spokesman of God The spoken Word of God. Noone has seen God or heard His voice, and it is always either Jesus or an Angel speaking. If we would not have thisRev 19:13 And he clothed with a vesture…[Read more]

Paladin!1Cr 1:30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: Made unto us wisdom, is not the same then if you say Jesus was made wisdom. He had wisdom for us so we have Jesus as an example to follow. If you want wisdom, ask for it, and God will give it…..Peace…