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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 09 2011,03:14)Quote (Paladin @ May 07 2011,17:35)There is no place ever in scripture that describes the person of Jesus in pre-existant heaven, that then tells us he came down to be born of a woman. That necessary link is missing, unless you understnad “came down from heaven” is a reference to “This came from the authority…[Read more]

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    Shimmer!  I read your post and want to respond to what you  said about the Law.  The only thing that Jesus fulfilled was the Sacrificial Law.  He is the perfect Scarifies, no other Animal Scarifies needed..  The Law and the prophets are also in the New Covenant under Jesus blood.   Some think that the Sabbath is to be kept.  It was never a comman…[Read more]

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    Quote (Paladin @ May 08 2011,23:06)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 08 2011,07:40)Quote (Paladin @ May 07 2011,15:35)Please give me the reference where “the best Greek Scholar of the day” said any such thing as you put in your post.PaladinEvery thing I posted in my thread was directly from Strongs.You are misleading and I will show you how.WJStrong's…[Read more]

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    Charles, You didn't write anything I don't know already….But I stand on what I said, there are not seven Spirits of God. There is ONE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD> Scripture in Ephesian 4 says so…. Mar 13:31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. How does that prove God alters things???? It doesn't….In fact it says the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Paladin @ May 07 2011,20:58)Quote (Baker @ May 07 2011,08:02)Marty and Kerwin!   I read tyour posts, and in no way is anything settled. just because someone comes and says He knows Greek, doesn't make it so.  you both can check out on the internet to the Blue Letter Bible and it will tell you the Greek or the Hebrew.  And I did so.  It is…[Read more]

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    Charles! No, No, No, No Jesus was created in Gods image, but does not have 7 Spirits of God. There is only ONE Holy Spirit that dwells in all of us….Eph 4:4 one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who above all, and through all, and in you all. Gods Holy Spirit is…[Read more]

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    Quote (Guest @ April 30 2011,06:58)Quote (Baker @ April 27 2011,03:45)Quote (Istari @ April 26 2011,19:19)Irene,Positive union between us on that.By the way,Omnipotent means 'All Powerful'OmniPresent means 'Everywhere' (All Present)Omniscient means 'All Knowing'True!   But Jesus could not be everywhere, could He?  Not that I know of….And that i…[Read more]

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    OK Marty, and that Word became flesh…..verse 14……Then John tells us in Jhn 6:38   For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.  He came from Heaven, and He will come again as the Word of God and King of Kings…..Rev. 19funny He is the Word in Rev. 19, but not in John 1, even though it says in v…[Read more]

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    Marty! You say that in Rev. 19 it is Jesus, but not in John 1:1-14 its not? Is that what you are saying???Jhn 1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Jhn 1:14 ¶ And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace a…[Read more]

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    Marty and Kerwin! I read tyour posts, and in no way is anything settled. just because someone comes and says He knows Greek, doesn't make it so. you both can check out on the internet to the Blue Letter Bible and it will tell you the Greek or the Hebrew. And I did so. It is not what Paladin is saying…..I also caught Him in a contradiction…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 06 2011,02:42)Quote (Baker @ May 04 2011,17:04)Keith!  No, I worship Jehovah God and honor Jesus who is my Savior…. I go through Jesus to go to the Throne of God and ask Jehovah God for the forgiveness of my sins.  Is that good enough for you? Peace IreneIreneThen you should stop calling Jesus “a god”, r…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 06 2011,14:16)To me it seemed like a whole bunch of words that in the end, still didn't give a different meaning to “I came down from heaven” than the only obvious one.Paladin,  we don't need a lesson in the Greek language…………unless there is something in your post that makes “I came down from heaven” mean something…[Read more]

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    THE EXODUS SONG This land is mine, God gave this land to me, This brave and ancient land to me, and when the morning sun, Reveals its hills and plains, Then I see land where children run free. So take my hand and walk this land with me, and walk this lovely land with me. Tho I am just a man, when you are by my side, With the help of…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ May 06 2011,13:06)PaladinQuote There are at least 33 Greek words that are translated “come” in one form or another, and nearly sixty compound meanings formed by other Greek…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ May 06 2011,12:02)Quote (kerwin @ April 27 2011,15:05)Quote (karmarie @ April 27 2011,13:11)So Kerwin, do you believe so many will go to Heaven and so many will be on a paradise earth (after the resurection)?I do not believe such a tenet.I am prone to believe we will be like angels and able to travel between the different realms of…[Read more]

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    Quote (Tim Kraft @ May 01 2011,21:21)Quote (Baker @ April 27 2011,23:22)I like to add this, Mal 4:1 ¶ For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.   M…[Read more]

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    Quote (shimmer @ May 06 2011,12:01)Quote (kerwin @ May 06 2011,12:48)Quote (shimmer @ May 06 2011,04:45)Kerwin, Gene and Marty,Thankyou for your views. Certainly many opinions on this site regarding this.What is your view on the issue?Kerwin,Going back a few years, I had my mind made up on what everything meant, so there was no issue for me.I…[Read more]

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    Marty!Jhn 1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Does this say in the beginning was the Word? And the Word was God? Jhn 1:14 ¶ And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. And the Word was m…[Read more]

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    Marty! Believing that Jesus was with His Father before all of creation, is not robing God Almighty of His glory. I also find it wrong to associate those that believe in the preexisting of Jesus with the trinitarian,. We believe that Jesus had a beginning, they believe He always existed. Calling material to a Human being is much different.…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 05 2011,13:10)Correction:  Our constitution states that no man PERSON can be President unless he/SHE was born on U.S. soil………Sorry for the sexist slight.  It was merely a matter of habit and purely unintentional.  :)mikeMike!1Cr 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of th…[Read more]

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