Will all men be saved?

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  • #181778
    NickHassan
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    hi CO,
    Ahh. So at the CONSUMMATION all men will repent unto salvation?
    Where does this new gospel come from?

    #181780
    GeneBalthrop
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    Nick…….What have you against the WILL of GOD, who Wills all men to Repent and Be Saved. Why does that bother you so much, GOD is able to cause repentance to ALL, by His Holy Spirit. Why do you deny Him of HIS POWER and WILL? (ALL) things are Possible with GOD, do you believe that.

    peace and love…………….gene

    #181783
    NickHassan
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    G,
    Indeed.
    God wants that and can give the grace of repentance.
    Very little fruit so far as arrogant men continue to walk their own paths.

    #181810
    chosenone
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2010,12:35)
    hi CO,
    Ahh. So at the CONSUMMATION all men will repent unto salvation?
    Where does this new gospel come from?


    NH.
    Not a new Gospel, read 1Cor.15. I thought you knew your scriptures???

    #181814
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    O the words Paul wrote to the saved?
    Context.
    Not preaching a gospel though as that is for the unsaved.

    #181841
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2010,12:47)
    G,
    Indeed.
    God wants that and can give the grace of repentance.
    Very little fruit so far as arrogant men continue to walk their own paths.


    Nick……When GOD gives repentance men change, that is as solid as THE ROCK HE IS. Only a (FEW) have been chosen at this time Nick. What is troubling is your lack of belief that GOD (CAN)) SAVE anyone HE Choses to. It is like you don't truly believe in His ability to Save a person, You make it like the person is in charge of His salvation and by that you diminish the work of GOD (IN) them. IMO

    GOD has concluded (ALL) under sin that HE might Have MERCY on (ALL). but each in his order. Nick there will be (NO) boasting about self WILLED Salvation in the Kingdom of GOD. GOD (ALONE) is the (ONLY) SAVIOR THERE IS, HE ALONE IS THE ROCK OF OUR SALVATION> IMO

    #181851
    NickHassan
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    GB,
    No we do not add to what he has said.
    His mercy is accessible now by all who live.
    He has never promised to save all and we should not presume

    #181997
    chosenone
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2010,16:46)
    Hi CO,
    O the words Paul wrote to the saved?
    Context.
    Not preaching a gospel though as that is for the unsaved.


    NH.
    You have a short memory span, I just posted an answer to this error in your thinking. Here it is again, try to memorise this scripture so you will remember it for future reference.

    Ro.15:15-18
    15 Yet more daringly do I write to you, in part, as prompting you, because of the grace being given to me from God,
    16 for me to be the minister of Christ Jesus for the nations, acting as a priest of the evangel of God, that the approach present of the nations may be becoming well received, having been hallowed by holy spirit.
    17 I have, then, a boast in Christ Jesus, in that which is toward God.
    18 For I am not daring to speak any of what Christ does not effect through me for the obedience of the nations, in word and work,

    -also-

    Eph.3:8-9
    8 To me, less than the least of all saints, was granted this grace: to bring the evangel of the untraceable riches of Christ to the nations,
    9 and to enlighten all as to what is the administration of the secret, which has been concealed from the eons in God, Who creates all,

    Nick, you must read scripture to understand Gods ways, not make up your own false ideas and try to pass them off as truth.
    It is unwise to change Gods words.

    Blessings.

    #182001
    chosenone
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2010,05:05)
    GB,
    No we do not add to what he has said.
    His mercy is accessible now by all who live.
    He has never promised to save all and we should not presume


    NH.
    Your bible missing some pages?

    1Tim.4:9-10
    9 Faithful is the saying and worthy of all welcome
    10 (for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind, especially of believers.

    Who is it that is “presuming”?

    #182006
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Chosenone………Amen to that brother.

    peace and love to you and yours……………….gene

    #182010
    NickHassan
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    Quote (chosenone @ Mar. 05 2010,16:55)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2010,05:05)
    GB,
    No we do not add to what he has said.
    His mercy is accessible now by all who live.
    He has never promised to save all and we should not presume


    NH.
      Your bible missing some pages?

    1Tim.4:9-10
      9 Faithful is the saying and worthy of all welcome
    10 (for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind, especially of believers.

      Who is it that is “presuming”?


    Hi CO,
    Did you think there were other possible saviours of mankind?
    Surely you did not think it means all will be saved?

    Wake up sleeper.
    Time is short.

    #182031
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick………Maybe you should wake up, you both deny the purpose and WILL of GOD as well as His (POWER ) to SAVE. YOUR isolation salvation is a product of Self and does not take in to consideration all the scriptures that Show you that is quite capable of saving (ALL) His creation. Out of one side of your mouth you show yourself as saved , then the other you condemn others, But even Jesus said He did (NOT) come to condemn any one , but you seem to have no problem condemning some to a (literial) Lake of FIRE not understanding that GOD himself (IS) the consuming FIRE, and that Fire is symbolic for cleansing and Purifying. Does it feel good to you to think others will be condemned (But of course not you), “He who condemns another condemns himself” and again In the manor you Judge it shall be rendered to YOU. IMO

    #182047
    chosenone
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2010,18:51)
    He has never promised to save all and we should not presume[/quote]
    NH.
      Your bible missing some pages?

    1Tim.4:9-10
      9 Faithful is the saying and worthy of all welcome
    10 (for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind, especially of believers.

      Who is it that is “presuming”?[/quote]
    Hi CO,
    Did you think there were other possible saviours of mankind?
    Surely you did not think it means all will be saved?

    Wake up sleeper.
    Time is short.


    NH.
    You make false statements, such as the one quoted, and when presented with scripture proving you wrong, you divert this subject and answer with an irrelevent reply.
    Read scripture, it will benefit your false opinions concerning His written word.

    #182048
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi co,
    Yes we have little tolerance for false doctrines like universalism.
    Should we accept all such lies when Jesus came to offer real hope?

    #182095
    Elizabeth
    Participant

    Co

    You're forgetting, Nick is only stirring the pot.

    Georg

    #182105
    chosenone
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2010,06:43)
    Hi co,
    Yes we have little tolerance for false doctrines like “the eternal Gospel for all”.
    Should we accept all such lies when Jesus came to offer real hope?


    NH.
    I modified your reply to reflect your opinion. “The 'false'one.”

    #182112
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    God saves men all day long from the results of their folly and risktaking.
    If it was not for God staying the hand of the murderer life would be short for many.
    He is the Saviour of all men in many ways day by day but all will not find eternal salvation

    #182161
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick……….You really don't believe GOD (CAN) save (ALL) his Creation do you. AMAZING! You don't believe that “The (WHOLE) creation (WILL) be delievered from the (BONDAGE) of corruption” do you. YOU don't believe that GOD has concluded (ALL) under sin that He might Have Mercy on (ALL) do you. You say believe scripture, but you don't really or is it just (SELECTIVE BELIEFS) you implore?

    peace and love ……………………gene

    #182177
    NickHassan
    Participant

    GB,
    Should we imagine what God can do and then state He will?
    Presumption has no place with faith.

    His mercy is now accessible in Jesus for all.

    #182184
    Elizabeth
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2010,19:08)
    Hi CO,
    God saves men all day long from the results of their folly and risktaking.
    If it was not for God staying the hand of the murderer life would be short for many.
    He is the Saviour of all men in many ways day by day but all will not find eternal salvation


    Nick

    Are you saying God is selective in who he saves from murderers? what does this scripture mean then?

    Ecc 3:1 ¶ To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
    Ecc 3:2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
    Ecc 3:3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
    Ecc 3:16 ¶ And moreover I saw under the sun the place of judgment, that wickedness was there; and the place of righteousness, that iniquity was there.
    Ecc 3:17 I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.

    Georg

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