Why is it impossible for God to be or do evil

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  • #361296
    kerwin
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    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 06 2013,02:02)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 06 2013,01:36)
    Wakeup,

    God created the one that would come to choose to be the Destroyer.  When he did so he knew all that would happen in the future.  God counted the costs were worth the reward.  One of those costs was the evil engineered by Satan.  The reward is spoken of in Revelations and elsewhere.


    K

    IT WOULD BE LIKE THE MOM AND DAD OF HITLER WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WW2


    T,

    Yes, except God knows what his children will do an the results of all their actions as well as his.

    Hitler is responsible for his actions and his parents for their own.

    #361306
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 06 2013,08:35)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 06 2013,02:02)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 06 2013,01:36)
    Wakeup,

    God created the one that would come to choose to be the Destroyer.  When he did so he knew all that would happen in the future.  God counted the costs were worth the reward.  One of those costs was the evil engineered by Satan.  The reward is spoken of in Revelations and elsewhere.


    K

    IT WOULD BE LIKE THE MOM AND DAD OF HITLER WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WW2


    T,

    Yes, except God knows what his children will do an the results of all their actions as well as his.

    Hitler is responsible for his actions and his parents for their own.


    :)

    #361329
    Wakeup
    Participant

    T.

    Deuteronomy 32:39 See now that I,
    **even I, am he**, and there
    *is no god with me*:
    **I kill**, and **I make alive;**

    **I wound**, and **I heal**:
    neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

    1 Samuel 2:6 **The LORD killeth, and maketh alive**:

    he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up.

    Terra; You dont know the true God.
    The god you worship is in your imagination still.

    No man knows the Father but the son,
    and him whom the Son will reveal him.

    wakeup.

    #361334
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,14:22)
    T.

     Deuteronomy 32:39   See now that I,
                 **even I, am he**, and there
                  *is no god with me*:
                  **I kill**, and **I make alive;**

               **I wound**, and **I heal**:
    neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

    1 Samuel 2:6   **The LORD killeth, and maketh alive**:

    he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up.

    Terra; You dont know the true God.
    The god you worship is in your imagination still.

    No man knows the Father but the son,
    and him whom the Son will reveal him.

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    Terra; You dont know the true God.
    The god you worship is in your imagination still.

    WILL ANYONE EXCEPT YOUR CLAN???

    #361349
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,04:40)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 06 2013,06:36)
    Wakeup,

    God created the one that would come to choose to be the Destroyer.  When he did so he knew all that would happen in the future.  God counted the costs were worth the reward.  One of those costs was the evil engineered by Satan.  The reward is spoken of in Revelations and elsewhere.


    Kerwin.

    Do you have to make corrections to every scriprure.
    Is God incapable of putting it right the first place?
    Are you superior with language.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I am not the one correcting Scripture,  I merely correct a person's understanding of it.  The letter is death and spirit is life.   God did not create moral evil,  Satan chose rebellion against good and so evil came to be.  God does cause evil events (calamity).   He also makes peace (safety).

    I cannot help you if you are unwilling to expand your vocabulary to understand that evil has more definitions than you seem accustomed to.  I admit holding to a lack of knowledge simplifies things but it also leads to a whole lot of mistaken conclusions.

    In learning you must be guided by the Spirit of God.

    #361422
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 07 2013,02:53)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,14:22)
    T.

     Deuteronomy 32:39   See now that I,
                 **even I, am he**, and there
                  *is no god with me*:
                  **I kill**, and **I make alive;**

               **I wound**, and **I heal**:
    neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

    1 Samuel 2:6   **The LORD killeth, and maketh alive**:

    he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up.

    Terra; You dont know the true God.
    The god you worship is in your imagination still.

    No man knows the Father but the son,
    and him whom the Son will reveal him.

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    Terra; You dont know the true God.
    The god you worship is in your imagination still.

    WILL ANYONE EXCEPT YOUR CLAN???


    T.

    Only genuine true seekers will connect
    cause they are on the same channel.
    You are on a different channel.
    Because the written Word has no effect on you.

    wakeup.

    #361423
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 07 2013,06:52)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,04:40)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 06 2013,06:36)
    Wakeup,

    God created the one that would come to choose to be the Destroyer.  When he did so he knew all that would happen in the future.  God counted the costs were worth the reward.  One of those costs was the evil engineered by Satan.  The reward is spoken of in Revelations and elsewhere.


    Kerwin.

    Do you have to make corrections to every scriprure.
    Is God incapable of putting it right the first place?
    Are you superior with language.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I am not the one correcting Scripture,  I merely correct a person's understanding of it.  The letter is death and spirit is life.   God did not create moral evil,  Satan chose rebellion against good and so evil came to be.  God does cause evil events (calamity).   He also makes peace (safety).

    I cannot help you if you are unwilling to expand your vocabulary to understand that evil has more definitions than you seem accustomed to.  I admit holding to a lack of knowledge simplifies things but it also leads to a whole lot of mistaken conclusions.

    In learning you must be guided by the Spirit of God.


    Kerwin.

    Are you going to explain these *straight forward* scriptures
    to your own wisdom?
    You are doing it to every sciprure,for own gain.

    Deuteronomy 32:39 See now that *I*,
    **even I, am he**, and there
    *is no god with me*:
    **I kill**, and **I make alive;**

    **I wound**, and **I heal**:
    neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

    1 Samuel 2:6 **The LORD killeth, and maketh alive**:

    he bringeth down to *the grave*, and *bringeth up*.

    Isaiah 45:7 ***I form the light***,
    and ***create darkness***:
    ***I make peace, and create evil***:
    *****I the LORD do all these things*****.

    ARE YOU GOING TO PUT YOUR OWN WORD OF WISDOM TO IT?
    TO CONTRADICT THE WRITTEN WORD; FOR YOUR OWN GAIN? BRING OUT ALL YOUR BOOKS AND TRY TO FIND FAULT. DIG OUT YOUR LIBRARY.

    The scriptures can not be broken.

    wakeup.

    #361436
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 07 2013,16:35)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 07 2013,02:53)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,14:22)
    T.

     Deuteronomy 32:39   See now that I,
                 **even I, am he**, and there
                  *is no god with me*:
                  **I kill**, and **I make alive;**

               **I wound**, and **I heal**:
    neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

    1 Samuel 2:6   **The LORD killeth, and maketh alive**:

    he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up.

    Terra; You dont know the true God.
    The god you worship is in your imagination still.

    No man knows the Father but the son,
    and him whom the Son will reveal him.

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    Terra; You dont know the true God.
    The god you worship is in your imagination still.

    WILL ANYONE EXCEPT YOUR CLAN???


    T.

    Only genuine true seekers will connect
    cause they are on the same channel.
    You are on a different channel.
    Because the written Word has no effect on you.

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    You are on a different channel.

    YEAH ,I CAN SEE YOUR ARROGANCE ,YOU LIKE TO BE FIRST IN ALL PLACES ,ALWAYS THE OTHERS THAT ARE WRONG AND OUT OF PLACE ;

    :D :D :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    #361442
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 07 2013,16:50)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 07 2013,06:52)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,04:40)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 06 2013,06:36)
    Wakeup,

    God created the one that would come to choose to be the Destroyer.  When he did so he knew all that would happen in the future.  God counted the costs were worth the reward.  One of those costs was the evil engineered by Satan.  The reward is spoken of in Revelations and elsewhere.


    Kerwin.

    Do you have to make corrections to every scriprure.
    Is God incapable of putting it right the first place?
    Are you superior with language.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I am not the one correcting Scripture,  I merely correct a person's understanding of it.  The letter is death and spirit is life.   God did not create moral evil,  Satan chose rebellion against good and so evil came to be.  God does cause evil events (calamity).   He also makes peace (safety).

    I cannot help you if you are unwilling to expand your vocabulary to understand that evil has more definitions than you seem accustomed to.  I admit holding to a lack of knowledge simplifies things but it also leads to a whole lot of mistaken conclusions.

    In learning you must be guided by the Spirit of God.


    Kerwin.

    Are you going to explain these *straight forward* scriptures
    to your own wisdom?
    You are doing it to every sciprure,for own gain.

    Deuteronomy 32:39   See now that *I*,
                **even I, am he**, and there
                 *is no god with me*:
                 **I kill**, and **I make alive;**

              **I wound**, and **I heal**:
    neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

    1 Samuel 2:6   **The LORD killeth, and maketh alive**:

    he bringeth down to *the grave*, and *bringeth up*.

    Isaiah 45:7   ***I form the light***,
       and ***create darkness***:
        ***I make peace, and create evil***:
           *****I the LORD do all these things*****.

    ARE YOU GOING TO PUT YOUR OWN WORD OF WISDOM TO IT?
    TO CONTRADICT THE WRITTEN WORD; FOR YOUR OWN GAIN? BRING OUT ALL YOUR BOOKS AND TRY TO FIND FAULT. DIG OUT YOUR LIBRARY.

    The scriptures can not be broken.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    As far as I know you are not using a definition of any word in those other passage that accuses God of wrongdoing.  All I am telling you is that are using the wrong definition for the word “evil” and in doing so accusing God of evil.  I should not have to tell that as the Spirit is yelling it at you.

    Amos 3:6
    King James Version (KJV)

    6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?

    Using a certain definition of evil God is called an evil doer by this passage. The Spirit instructs that definition is not right.

    Use a dictionary and look up another meaning that is right better yet test them all to see which fits best with who God is and what he wants from you.

    #361454
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 08 2013,07:19)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 07 2013,16:50)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 07 2013,06:52)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,04:40)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 06 2013,06:36)
    Wakeup,

    God created the one that would come to choose to be the Destroyer.  When he did so he knew all that would happen in the future.  God counted the costs were worth the reward.  One of those costs was the evil engineered by Satan.  The reward is spoken of in Revelations and elsewhere.


    Kerwin.

    Do you have to make corrections to every scriprure.
    Is God incapable of putting it right the first place?
    Are you superior with language.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I am not the one correcting Scripture,  I merely correct a person's understanding of it.  The letter is death and spirit is life.   God did not create moral evil,  Satan chose rebellion against good and so evil came to be.  God does cause evil events (calamity).   He also makes peace (safety).

    I cannot help you if you are unwilling to expand your vocabulary to understand that evil has more definitions than you seem accustomed to.  I admit holding to a lack of knowledge simplifies things but it also leads to a whole lot of mistaken conclusions.

    In learning you must be guided by the Spirit of God.


    Kerwin.

    Are you going to explain these *straight forward* scriptures
    to your own wisdom?
    You are doing it to every sciprure,for own gain.

    Deuteronomy 32:39   See now that *I*,
                **even I, am he**, and there
                 *is no god with me*:
                 **I kill**, and **I make alive;**

              **I wound**, and **I heal**:
    neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

    1 Samuel 2:6   **The LORD killeth, and maketh alive**:

    he bringeth down to *the grave*, and *bringeth up*.

    Isaiah 45:7   ***I form the light***,
       and ***create darkness***:
        ***I make peace, and create evil***:
           *****I the LORD do all these things*****.

    ARE YOU GOING TO PUT YOUR OWN WORD OF WISDOM TO IT?
    TO CONTRADICT THE WRITTEN WORD; FOR YOUR OWN GAIN? BRING OUT ALL YOUR BOOKS AND TRY TO FIND FAULT. DIG OUT YOUR LIBRARY.

    The scriptures can not be broken.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    As far as I know you are not using a definition of any word in those other passage that accuses of wrongdoing.  All I am telling you is that are using the wrong definition for the word “evil” and in doing so accusing God of evil.  I should not have to tell that as the Spirit is yelling it at you.

    Amos 3:6
    King James Version (KJV)

    6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?

    Using a certain definition of evil God is called an evil doer by this passage. The Spirit instructs that definition is not right.

    Use a dictionary and look up another meaning that is right better yet test them all to see which fits best with who God is and what he wants from you.


    Kerwin.

    For every scripture you dont understand, you need to have your dictionary; to find a contradiction,to satisfy your soul.

    Now that I call a big stumbling block on your path.
    Trust ye in the Lord,and believe in his Word.
    The Lord is not slack.
    The Lord knows what's going on.
    He is not blind,He does not need help in putting His Word accross.

    What ever Word He has chosen to use; is the word He wants to use:
    He does not need men to correct him.

    wakeup.

    #361476
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 08 2013,07:05)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 08 2013,07:19)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 07 2013,16:50)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 07 2013,06:52)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,04:40)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 06 2013,06:36)
    Wakeup,

    God created the one that would come to choose to be the Destroyer.  When he did so he knew all that would happen in the future.  God counted the costs were worth the reward.  One of those costs was the evil engineered by Satan.  The reward is spoken of in Revelations and elsewhere.


    Kerwin.

    Do you have to make corrections to every scriprure.
    Is God incapable of putting it right the first place?
    Are you superior with language.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I am not the one correcting Scripture,  I merely correct a person's understanding of it.  The letter is death and spirit is life.   God did not create moral evil,  Satan chose rebellion against good and so evil came to be.  God does cause evil events (calamity).   He also makes peace (safety).

    I cannot help you if you are unwilling to expand your vocabulary to understand that evil has more definitions than you seem accustomed to.  I admit holding to a lack of knowledge simplifies things but it also leads to a whole lot of mistaken conclusions.

    In learning you must be guided by the Spirit of God.


    Kerwin.

    Are you going to explain these *straight forward* scriptures
    to your own wisdom?
    You are doing it to every sciprure,for own gain.

    Deuteronomy 32:39   See now that *I*,
                **even I, am he**, and there
                 *is no god with me*:
                 **I kill**, and **I make alive;**

              **I wound**, and **I heal**:
    neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

    1 Samuel 2:6   **The LORD killeth, and maketh alive**:

    he bringeth down to *the grave*, and *bringeth up*.

    Isaiah 45:7   ***I form the light***,
       and ***create darkness***:
        ***I make peace, and create evil***:
           *****I the LORD do all these things*****.

    ARE YOU GOING TO PUT YOUR OWN WORD OF WISDOM TO IT?
    TO CONTRADICT THE WRITTEN WORD; FOR YOUR OWN GAIN? BRING OUT ALL YOUR BOOKS AND TRY TO FIND FAULT. DIG OUT YOUR LIBRARY.

    The scriptures can not be broken.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    As far as I know you are not using a definition of any word in those other passage that accuses of wrongdoing.  All I am telling you is that are using the wrong definition for the word “evil” and in doing so accusing God of evil.  I should not have to tell that as the Spirit is yelling it at you.

    Amos 3:6
    King James Version (KJV)

    6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?

    Using a certain definition of evil God is called an evil doer by this passage. The Spirit instructs that definition is not right.

    Use a dictionary and look up another meaning that is right better yet test them all to see which fits best with who God is and what he wants from you.


    Kerwin.

    For every scripture you dont understand, you need to have your dictionary; to find a contradiction,to satisfy your soul.

    Now that I call a big stumbling block on your path.
    Trust ye in the Lord,and believe in his Word.
    The Lord is not slack.
    The Lord knows what's going on.
    He is not blind,He does not need help in putting His Word accross.

    What ever Word He has chosen to use; is the word He wants to use:
    He does not need men to correct him.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I know that line upon line and precept upon precept God's Word is unified.  When I come to a place that seems not to be so I am wise enough to use the tools God gives to be to seek to resolve it.  

    I choose not to hold to teachings that do not support themselves line upon line and precept upon precept.

    I believe God exist and that his Spirit teaches those that seek him.  My actions are the fruit of that belief.

    It is not God's choice of words that I question but the understand of your chosen experts and your own.  The ancient languages are a more reliable rendition of God's wording than the more modern ones that are more distant from the source.

    #361486
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 08 2013,16:48)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 08 2013,07:05)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 08 2013,07:19)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 07 2013,16:50)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 07 2013,06:52)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,04:40)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 06 2013,06:36)
    Wakeup,

    God created the one that would come to choose to be the Destroyer.  When he did so he knew all that would happen in the future.  God counted the costs were worth the reward.  One of those costs was the evil engineered by Satan.  The reward is spoken of in Revelations and elsewhere.


    Kerwin.

    Do you have to make corrections to every scriprure.
    Is God incapable of putting it right the first place?
    Are you superior with language.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I am not the one correcting Scripture,  I merely correct a person's understanding of it.  The letter is death and spirit is life.   God did not create moral evil,  Satan chose rebellion against good and so evil came to be.  God does cause evil events (calamity).   He also makes peace (safety).

    I cannot help you if you are unwilling to expand your vocabulary to understand that evil has more definitions than you seem accustomed to.  I admit holding to a lack of knowledge simplifies things but it also leads to a whole lot of mistaken conclusions.

    In learning you must be guided by the Spirit of God.


    Kerwin.

    Are you going to explain these *straight forward* scriptures
    to your own wisdom?
    You are doing it to every sciprure,for own gain.

    Deuteronomy 32:39   See now that *I*,
                **even I, am he**, and there
                 *is no god with me*:
                 **I kill**, and **I make alive;**

              **I wound**, and **I heal**:
    neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

    1 Samuel 2:6   **The LORD killeth, and maketh alive**:

    he bringeth down to *the grave*, and *bringeth up*.

    Isaiah 45:7   ***I form the light***,
       and ***create darkness***:
        ***I make peace, and create evil***:
           *****I the LORD do all these things*****.

    ARE YOU GOING TO PUT YOUR OWN WORD OF WISDOM TO IT?
    TO CONTRADICT THE WRITTEN WORD; FOR YOUR OWN GAIN? BRING OUT ALL YOUR BOOKS AND TRY TO FIND FAULT. DIG OUT YOUR LIBRARY.

    The scriptures can not be broken.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    As far as I know you are not using a definition of any word in those other passage that accuses of wrongdoing.  All I am telling you is that are using the wrong definition for the word “evil” and in doing so accusing God of evil.  I should not have to tell that as the Spirit is yelling it at you.

    Amos 3:6
    King James Version (KJV)

    6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?

    Using a certain definition of evil God is called an evil doer by this passage. The Spirit instructs that definition is not right.

    Use a dictionary and look up another meaning that is right better yet test them all to see which fits best with who God is and what he wants from you.


    Kerwin.

    For every scripture you dont understand, you need to have your dictionary; to find a contradiction,to satisfy your soul.

    Now that I call a big stumbling block on your path.
    Trust ye in the Lord,and believe in his Word.
    The Lord is not slack.
    The Lord knows what's going on.
    He is not blind,He does not need help in putting His Word accross.

    What ever Word He has chosen to use; is the word He wants to use:
    He does not need men to correct him.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I know that line upon line and precept upon precept God's Word is unified.  When I come to a place that seems not to be so I am wise enough to use the tools God gives to be to seek to resolve it.  

    I choose not to hold to teachings that do not support themselves line upon line and precept upon precept.

    I believe God exist and that his Spirit teaches those that seek him.  My actions are the fruit of that belief.

    It is not God's choice of words that I question but the understand of your chosen experts and your own.  The ancient languages are a more reliable rendition of God's wording than the more modern ones that are more distant from the source.


    Kerwin.

    The cotradictions would be in the reader.
    Not the book.
    I have found no contradictions.

    wakeup.

    #361505
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 08 2013,14:14)

    Kerwin.

    The contradictions would be in the reader.
    Not the book.
    I have found no contradictions.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I am not speaking about the whole KJV book of books as I know that translation bias was shown and honest mistakes were made by the translators.

    I am speaking of several passages in the AKJV and possibly the KJV where certain readers, whose vocabulary is limited, misinterpret to what can become their own damnation.  It is my calling to warn them away from destruction.

    These are the three Scriptures they fail to understand as they do not use the correct meaning for evil.

    Isaiah 45:7
    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    7 I form the light, and create darkness:
    I make peace, and create evil:
    I the Lord do all these things.

    God did not create wickedness.
    God did and continues to create harm.

    The word evil can mean either wicked or harm.

    Amos 3:6
    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid?
    shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?

    God does not do wickedness.
    God does do harm.

    The word evil can mean wicked or harm.

    Lamentations 3:38
    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    38 Out of the mouth of the most High
    proceedeth not evil and good?

    God does not speak evil.
    God does speak harm.

    The word evil can mean wicked or harm.

    It is the Spirit that guides those readers who believe to the correct meaning even though sometimes it takes more time than others.

    In our culture readers are used to the word evil being used to mean wicked but the AKJV was not written in our culture.  Readers are to follow the guidance of the Spirit and not are culture.  A wise reader uses a dictionary and other tools God provides them with just as David used the stones provided by God to slay the enemy of God.

    #361512
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 09 2013,03:32)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 08 2013,14:14)

    Kerwin.

    The contradictions would be in the reader.
    Not the book.
    I have found no contradictions.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I am not speaking about the whole KJV book of books as I know that translation bias was shown and honest mistakes were made by the translators.

    I am speaking of several passages in the AKJV and possibly the KJV where certain readers, whose vocabulary is limited, misinterpret to what can become their own damnation.  It is my calling to warn them away from destruction.

    These are the three Scriptures they fail to understand as they do not use the correct meaning for evil.

    Isaiah 45:7
    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    7 I form the light, and create darkness:
    I make peace, and create evil:
    I the Lord do all these things.

    God did not create wickedness.
    God did and continues to create harm.

    The word evil can mean either wicked or harm.

    Amos 3:6
    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid?
    shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?

    God does not do wickedness.
    God does do harm.

    The word evil can mean wicked or harm.

    Lamentations 3:38
    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    38 Out of the mouth of the most High
    proceedeth not evil and good?

    God does not speak evil.
    God does speak harm.

    The word evil can mean wicked or harm.

    It is the Spirit that guides those readers who believe to the correct meaning even though sometimes it takes more time than others.

    In our culture readers are used to the word evil being used to mean wicked but the AKJV was not written in our culture.  Readers are to follow the guidance of the Spirit and not are culture.  A wise reader uses a dictionary and other tools God provides them with just as David used the stones provided by God to slay the enemy of God.


    Kerwin.

    Can you disect this scripture for us.
    so we can understand what it really is saying?

    Matthew 24:12 ***And because iniquity shall abound***, the love of many shall wax cold.

    wakeup.

    #361521
    kerwin
    Participant

    Wakeup,

    Any interpretation made by God's Spirit is true while those made in other ways are false.  

    God causes the lack of the effects of disasters and disasters and other opposites is the theme of those three passages.  It can be summed up as all things occur by the will of God.  By all things occurring I am not saying God does evil but he does allow for it to be done and uses it to do good.

    #361534
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 09 2013,08:21)
    Wakeup,

    Any interpretation made by God's Spirit is true while those made in other ways are false.  

    God causes the lack of the effects of disasters and disasters and other opposites is the theme of those three passages.  It can be summed up as all things occur by the will of God.  By all things occurring I am not saying God does evil but he does allow for it to be done and uses it to do good.


    Kerwin.

    How can you tell the difference;
    between God's interpretation and mens?

    wakeup.

    #361545
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 09 2013,05:03)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 09 2013,08:21)
    Wakeup,

    Any interpretation made by God's Spirit is true while those made in other ways are false.  

    God causes the lack of the effects of disasters and disasters and other opposites is the theme of those three passages.  It can be summed up as all things occur by the will of God.  By all things occurring I am not saying God does evil but he does allow for it to be done and uses it to do good.


    Kerwin.

    How can you tell the difference;
    between God's interpretation and mens?

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    If it does not aid and encourage you to seek to be righteous as God is righteous it is not from God.

    #361557
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 09 2013,11:28)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 09 2013,05:03)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 09 2013,08:21)
    Wakeup,

    Any interpretation made by God's Spirit is true while those made in other ways are false.  

    God causes the lack of the effects of disasters and disasters and other opposites is the theme of those three passages.  It can be summed up as all things occur by the will of God.  By all things occurring I am not saying God does evil but he does allow for it to be done and uses it to do good.


    Kerwin.

    How can you tell the difference;
    between God's interpretation and mens?

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    If it does not aid and encourage you to seek to be righteous as God is righteous it is not from God.


    Kerwin.

    I say this:If there is no harmony in the scriptures,
    It is NOT of God.
    If all the pieces of scriptures put together; can build a clear picture of God's whole plan,without any distortions;*it is of God*.

    So far this clear picrure has evaded christians.
    For the land is desolate.

    No man knows the Son;but the Father.
    No man knows the Father but the son.
    You are one of them.
    Judging by all the comments you have made,of the Son.
    The son is still a mystery to you.
    He has not revealed himself to you.

    Many are called but a few chosen.
    Many will come and say;Lord.Lord.

    wakeup.

    #361579
    terraricca
    Participant

    k

    God makes salvation
    its walls and ramparts.
    Isa 26:2 Open the gates
    that the righteous nation may enter,
    the nation that keeps faith.
    Isa 26:3 You will keep in perfect peace
    him whose mind is steadfast,
    because he trusts in you.
    Isa 26:4 Trust in the LORD forever,
    for the LORD, the LORD, is the Rock eternal.
    Isa 26:5 He humbles those who dwell on high,

    RIGHTEOUSNESS IS THE GAME

    #361633
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    To all………..Did God create the Knowledge of Good and Evil,  Was that not the Tree (that which produces from Self) that was in the Garden of Eden, Is this what God said the man has become as one of us to “KNOW” (have a eminent relationship with) Good and Evil. When it says Adam “KNOW” Eve did that meant he just knew about her or does it mean, he Had experienced an eminent relationship with her?  
    The word Know in Genesis is more then just a knowledge about something it is a Knowledge derived by experiencing it.

    God created all thing that exist and that includes both Good and Evil. He want us to learn by an eminent relationship with Both to Learn to Chose what is Good instead of what is Evil. But be assured Both are part of what makes up life and are vital for us to be more like The LORD our GOD or He would not have allowed it in the first place. IMO

    peace and love to you all……………………………….gene

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