Why free will is essential

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  • #942506
    GeneBalthrop
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    Proclaimer……..There exists no such thing as a Will, being free itself,  or it would not be called a will, now would it? ,  Free will,  is an “OXYMORON ” , because no such thing exists.

    Wills are  driven desires, nothing free about it.,  Jesus said (not me),   pray like this,  “OUR Father who art in heaven, the kingdom come “THY WILL” , be done,  ….  I see know where where it say our will be done, because we have a “free” will, to decide for ourselves. 

    If freewill are what determines our out come, then God could not Prophesy anything , because he couldn’t know what a person would do, at any given time,  because a  person might change his or her mind about anything at any time.  They would be unpredictable for ever.

    Peace and love to you and yours Proclaimer. ……..gene

    #942513
    Proclaimer
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    Great to see you exercising your free will and deciding to post in this topic.

    Or did you have no choice in the matter and was forced to reply?

    If so, then what if God forces you to do a great evil?

    After all, some people have committed grave sins that you are essentially saying is not their fault.

    Yet God holds them accountable.

    Your theology doesn’t seem that holy more holey (full of holes).

    #942514
    Proclaimer
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    When God created man he made him perfect.

    But he gave man free will by placing two trees in the garden.

    Unfortunately, man chose to go against God.

    But God had a plan from before the foundation of the world where the lamb would be slain if this ever happened. Thus, it was prophesied that he would die. When you think about it, someone was going to sin at some point. But now that we have seen the fruit of misery and death, it is not like anyone will choose that in the future.

    Other prophecies do not infringe our free will. If God can see our future, then he can give us an insight into that. If you make the argument he cannot see the future, then maybe each job is available and someone will choose it eventually.

    God is not evil and wills us to do evil with no consent from us. This is basically what you are saying. That God determines some to do evil. He writes the script and forces men to do evil.

    How wrong you are.

    When tempted, no one should say, “ God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He tempt anyone. But each one is tempted when by his own evil desires he is lured away and enticed.

    We choose with free will whether we let our evil desires take control. When men do such, it is not the result of God ordaining it, forcing us, or that he wrote the script that we have to follow.

    God is not evil.

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