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Quote (karmarie @ June 09 2010,19:45) Ed, the other thing that bugs me is how you say 'I am' means someone is speaking evil, well, God himself said “This is my beloved Son in whom I am pleased”, see the words “I am”?
Hi Karina,I previously answered that question Here <— Fifth Post from top.
But you should read the third Post fron the top as well; OK?
Let me know if you have any further questions; OK?God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgI know Ed, iv read all that before, but for someone to speak and use the words 'I am' doesnt mean theyre speaking evil. I say it all the time to my kids..”Get me my Bag”…”I am!” and like I said in the bible 'I am' is all through it, God said as I said above “This is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased”…see?
I can understand how you say its how people prove a trinity etc, I get that. But I dont get how using it in every day speech is wrong?
Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 31 2010,21:00) Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 31 2010,21:02) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2010,08:10) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 31 2010,05:18) The Quran does not preach against God's anointed in any way.
Then why does it teach to hate the Jews?
Are they Not God's anointed?The remnant?
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
http://www.israelversusjudaism.org/
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/
Oh and I forgot this one
karmarie: God bless you. How have you been. I wanted to respond to your question to Bod.
Our war is not against flesh and blood. We are in a mental war of spiritual truth against error of truth.
Please understand this with all your heart. IN THE NEW COVENANT THERE IS NO CHOSEN(BLOODLINE) PEOPLE FOR GOD. The spirit truth that Jesus taught was the truth for any or all that would believe. By faith we are saved. There is neither jew nor gentile nor bond nor free nor male nor female or any other label—-the gospel of God through Jesus is for WHOSOEVER will accept and believe. The jews murdered Jesus in the end and Jesus cursed the fig tree (Israel) to be barren and non-productive of fruit forever. YOU ARE A CHOSEN ONE!! TKQuote (karmarie @ June 09 2010,20:49) I know Ed, iv read all that before, but for someone to speak and use the words 'I am' doesnt mean theyre speaking evil. I say it all the time to my kids..”Get me my Bag”…”I am!” and like I said in the bible 'I am' is all through it, God said as I said above “This is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased”…see? I can understand how you say its how people prove a trinity etc, I get that. But I dont get how using it in every day speech is wrong?
Hi Karmarie,No, that is how the translators translated Luke 3:22; BIG DIFFERENCE!
The N.W.T. has translated Luke 3:22 more accurately with less confusion!
YHVH Voice=117 said: “You are my Son, the beloved; I have approved you”.N.W.T. Luke 3:22: and the “HolySpirit” in bodily shape like a dove came
down upon him(Joshua/Jesus), and a voice came out of heaven:
“You are my Son, the beloved; I have approved you”.Also I said no such thing as this…
'I can understand how you say its how people prove a trinity'Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Tim Kraft @ June 09 2010,22:32) Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 31 2010,21:00) Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 31 2010,21:02) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2010,08:10) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 31 2010,05:18) The Quran does not preach against God's anointed in any way.
Then why does it teach to hate the Jews?
Are they Not God's anointed?The remnant?
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
http://www.israelversusjudaism.org/
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/
Oh and I forgot this one
karmarie: God bless you. How have you been. I wanted to respond to your question to Bod.
Our war is not against flesh and blood. We are in a mental war of spiritual truth against error of truth.
Please understand this with all your heart. IN THE NEW COVENANT THERE IS NO CHOSEN(BLOODLINE) PEOPLE FOR GOD. The spirit truth that Jesus taught was the truth for any or all that would believe. By faith we are saved. There is neither jew nor gentile nor bond nor free nor male nor female or any other label—-the gospel of God through Jesus is for WHOSOEVER will accept and believe. The jews murdered Jesus in the end and Jesus cursed the fig tree (Israel) to be barren and non-productive of fruit forever. YOU ARE A CHOSEN ONE!! TK
Hi Tim, its really good to see you here again!Thats exactly how I see it, well its how I saw it from what I read in the bible,
But I know theres also a remnant of Jews, and these ones here I see as the ones who are standing outside the city (Jerusalem / Isreal) upset over all that goes on.
Well thats what I think I understand. I dont know. (I havent thought about that in a while)
Im half Hebrew. But I know nothing about it, only my family follow all that, I was raised a christian only.
Good to see you here Tim. I hope your well. Thankyou for a positive post..
Hi Ed, but the words 'I am' are everywhere in the bible?
What I meant was how you say trinitarians say that because Jesus said 'I am” he is stating he is God.
Ed, did you know I can go on an online program which will find my name encoded in the bible, They can find anyones name in their especially the easy names, sorry Ed, but its true. I wont be doing it though because im definatly no-one special so why would I try to be? Im a learner on a path searching for the truth thats all, like everyone is.
Same with you Bod. Why have people say your name in a chant? Along with the other names?
I could have so easily all my life used whatever I had to get whatever I wanted. And I could have. But I dont, so I prefer to learn off others. To look up to those who know more than me instead. I dunno if that makes any sense?
Quote (karmarie @ June 09 2010,21:59) Hi Ed, but the words 'I am' are everywhere in the bible? What I meant was how you say trinitarians say that because Jesus said 'I am” he is stating he is God.
Hi Karmarie,Hebrew has NO such construct!
The 'ego' is something we must crucify within our own self! (Matt.16:24)[ειμι εγω] (‘i am’) ĕ-mē ēgō is Greek phraseology; and is NO 'god'!
You CANNOT base your “Theology” on translational errors!God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (karmarie @ June 09 2010,22:14) Ed, did you know I can go on an online program which will find my name encoded in the bible, They can find anyones name in their especially the easy names, sorry Ed, but its true. I wont be doing it though because im definatly no-one special so why would I try to be? Im a learner on a path searching for the truth thats all, like everyone is. Same with you Bod. Why have people say your name in a chant? Along with the other names?
I could have so easily all my life used whatever I had to get whatever I wanted. And I could have. But I dont, so I prefer to learn off others. To look up to those who know more than me instead. I dunno if that makes any sense?
Hi Karmarie,But no matter what you learn from others, always check things out for yourself!
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 09 2010,15:29) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 09 2010,14:56) Why did ED lie and say that curse = Allah when Grace = Allah? Because ED is a LIAR when he allows satan to misguide him. He has not studied the Quran and bears false witness and he will have to answer for that sin and so will all that bear false witness. Do you really think that Jesus would be proud that you MAKE UP false accusations because you can not prove your position with actual knowledge?
Hi BD,What is the “Gematria” value of 'allah' in Arabic? You deny it is 66?
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Stop misusing and switching around how you use Gematria.You want to use one word with english gematria and then use arabic gematria for another and so on and so on.
If you would be consistent it would be good but to simply manipulate to force and effect is really showing that you are insecure.
I really do like you alot ED but I hate when you behave so corrupt when you shouldn't have to.
Quote (karmarie @ June 09 2010,22:14) Ed, did you know I can go on an online program which will find my name encoded in the bible, They can find anyones name in their especially the easy names, sorry Ed, but its true. I wont be doing it though because im definatly no-one special so why would I try to be? Im a learner on a path searching for the truth thats all, like everyone is. Same with you Bod. Why have people say your name in a chant? Along with the other names?
I could have so easily all my life used whatever I had to get whatever I wanted. And I could have. But I dont, so I prefer to learn off others. To look up to those who know more than me instead. I dunno if that makes any sense?
Asana is not my name it means “made gracious by God”No one chants Bodhitharta which is my name
Anyway meditation helps one focus even using the name of Jesus “God Saves” is very good to use
or Elohim or whatever carries a meaning that assists the person in calming the mind
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 09 2010,17:02) Hi Bod,
To intervene in your response
[qoute] Is there one scripture in the entire Bible where God says to Jesus “You are My Son”[/qoute]Here are several scriptures, including John who was actually there. and bared record.
Matthew 3:16And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.Mark 1:10And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:
11And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.John 1:
32And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
33And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
34And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
35Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;
36And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!
37And the two disciples heard him speak, and they followed Jesus.Between the four gospels, each one was written to a differnt group of people and each one represented Jesus in a certain way. It was proving who he was in several differnt manners.
yet they all agreed using the same concepts and stories, unlike mark who was in a hurry.
I don't disagree that Jesus is/was called the Son of God I am just making the point that the term Son of God meant SERVANT of GODJust like Paul use to call himself a Slave to Christ of course he also meant SERVANT
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 10 2010,03:00) Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2010,15:29) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 09 2010,14:56) Why did ED lie and say that curse = Allah when Grace = Allah? Because ED is a LIAR when he allows satan to misguide him. He has not studied the Quran and bears false witness and he will have to answer for that sin and so will all that bear false witness. Do you really think that Jesus would be proud that you MAKE UP false accusations because you can not prove your position with actual knowledge?
Hi BD,What is the “Gematria” value of 'allah' in Arabic? You deny it is 66?
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Stop misusing and switching around how you use Gematria.You want to use one word with english gematria and then use arabic gematria for another and so on and so on.
If you would be consistent it would be good but to simply manipulate to force and effect is really showing that you are insecure.
I really do like you alot ED but I hate when you behave so corrupt when you shouldn't have to.
Hi BD,“Quite remarkable how Gematria even crosses language barriers.” The Quote is from here!
Thank you BD! I have strong feelings for you too.
It disturbs me to see you also 'tricked' by ha-satan
the way Muhammad was tricked by him! (Gal.1:8-9)B'Shem,
YHVHToday you must repent despite your belief that Jesus died for your sins and just like the law it just makes the issue of you sinning much worse even worse than sinning under the law for it is far worse to sin if someone paid for your sins with death by a torturous cross than it is to not follow the letter of the law. Am I right?
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 10 2010,06:33) Today you must repent despite your belief that Jesus died for your sins and just like the law it just makes the issue of you sinning much worse even worse than sinning under the law for it is far worse to sin if someone paid for your sins with death by a torturous cross than it is to not follow the letter of the law. Am I right?
Hi BD,This Post is very incoherent?
Are you beginning to 'snap' Buddie?Ed J
Quote (karmarie @ June 09 2010,19:44) Hi Dennison. I just dont see how numbers can be used to prove God exists, or to prove what things mean in the Bible. The words are simple to understand, why should there be some mystery? Why do we need proof with numbers when we have all the proof around us?
One thing leads onto another, this adds up with that, it starts getting really confusing.Hope your well dennison, hope this forum hasnt worn you out too much like it has with me haha. Too confusing sometimes.
Hey karmarie,I think God finds numbers very important because he created it. Everything proves Gods existance. Why do we have two eyes and not three? why do we have only one heart? Why 7 days.
it could get confusing. but numbers mean something more than just the number. each number represents something abotu God. think about it, he only does things by a certain number. Time is based on a numbered clock.
our life span is based on numbers our very age is based on that.
we live around numbers. lengths, wigth, time, space,
anyways.
it has kindof of worn me out a bit, i havent had much sleep lol. It hasnt confused me, i felt i have learned alot.
seeing things a bit more clearer each day.
God is good,
God bless =)
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 10 2010,03:15) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 09 2010,17:02) Hi Bod,
To intervene in your response
[qoute] Is there one scripture in the entire Bible where God says to Jesus “You are My Son”[/qoute]Here are several scriptures, including John who was actually there. and bared record.
Matthew 3:16And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.Mark 1:10And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:
11And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.John 1:
32And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
33And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
34And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
35Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;
36And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!
37And the two disciples heard him speak, and they followed Jesus.Between the four gospels, each one was written to a differnt group of people and each one represented Jesus in a certain way. It was proving who he was in several differnt manners.
yet they all agreed using the same concepts and stories, unlike mark who was in a hurry.
I don't disagree that Jesus is/was called the Son of God I am just making the point that the term Son of God meant SERVANT of GODJust like Paul use to call himself a Slave to Christ of course he also meant SERVANT
Hi Bod,You said:
Quote I don't disagree that Jesus is/was called the Son of God I am just making the point that the term Son of God meant SERVANT of GOD Just like Paul use to call himself a Slave to Christ of course he also meant SERVANT
Bod you cant make that assumption. For one, Paul and Jesus are two differnt people. You cant state or hold truth to what is not stated.
First of all Jesus wasnt calling himself the Son of God just like any one of us, if that were true, than he wouldnt have been accused of blasphemy and wouldnt have been put to death.second: Paul actualy meant to call himself the slave of christ, why because later he talks about how we need to capitivater our minds to christ.
thank you,
interpret scriptures by what is said not by what is not said.
Quote (Ed J @ June 09 2010,23:54) Hi Karmarie, But no matter what you learn from others, always check things out for yourself!
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgI know that Ed. I do. Thanks.
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 10 2010,04:11) Asana is not my name it means “made gracious by God” No one chants Bodhitharta which is my name
Anyway meditation helps one focus even using the name of Jesus “God Saves” is very good to use
or Elohim or whatever carries a meaning that assists the person in calming the mind
Oh, ok, sorry, I thought you had people chanting your own name…ok.
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