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Quote (bodhitharta @ June 05 2010,06:42) Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2010,17:19) Quote (karmarie @ June 04 2010,15:08) Ed, the Word was the Son. (love to stay and debate that one but I have to go only had a few minutes)
Hi Karina,Did Jesus grow and multiply? NO!
Acts:12:24 …the word of God grew and multiplied.
The “HolySpirit”(THE WORD) grew and multiplied in the hearts of all the believers!God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgIt seems we agree on these points and that's good
Hi BD,YES BD; thanks for your support!
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (SimplyForgiven @ June 04 2010,18:48) Quote Hi Bod and All, Hello and God Bless you with Peace
Quote Problem:
1) Muslims believe the bible is corrupted, there is no point to mention scripture.Muslims love and study scripture to rightly discern the word of truth
Quote 2) Nothing else will make sense unless clear distinctions are made between the Quran and the Bible They are only progressively different and relatively different but essentially the same i.e. Worship God and be responsible and grateful for what HE gave us
Quote 3) The Muslims will use bible against you, even though that makes no sense, and they can freely pick and choose verses to attack, and in the end claim no responsibiltiy because in the end the bible is corrputed to them. The Muslim never uses the Bible against anyone he uses it for the person to understand. Coincidentally most Christians do not study the Bible enough to know what it contains and in the end if corruptions can be shown to exist in the Bible any honest Christian will take note
Quote 4) Psychological Defense: No matter what you say, they will not believe what you say is valid, because its based on the corrupted text. The entire text is not corrupted and most main aspects of scripture can be validated.
Quote Solutions:
1) The Quran cannot survive without the Bible.That is not accurate as the Bible is a collection of books
Quote 2) To distinguish the fallacys of the Quran one must seperate them both, but not by a corrupted since, but by seperating them showing clearly two different Gods and two different stories…Proirty!! The Quran does not support the idea of “gods” There is no God but ONE therefore any discussion about “gods” is pointless.
Quote 3) There is only one writer of the Quran. The revelation was sent to One person who recited it to others until it was written down. The word Quran means “recitation”
Quote 4) His writings are based on the Bible. If this is trueho could it be based on another God?
Quote 5) Common foundation, different Gods. Different foundations, ONE GOD
Quote 6) God identity. Defining who God is portrayed in the Bible vs the Quran, is important. Defining who God is portrayed in the OT and NT is important and yet the SAME GOD
Quote 7) Showing the differnse between Love vs Submitting. Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
James 4:6-8Submit means to totally give oneself to God what greater love is that.
For this God is our God for ever and ever: he will be our guide even unto death.
Psalm 48:13-14Say: “Shall we indeed call on others besides Allah,- things that can do us neither good nor harm,- and turn on our heels after receiving guidance from Allah. – like one whom the evil ones have made into a fool, wandering bewildered through the earth, his friends calling, come to us', (vainly) guiding him to the path.” Say: “(Allah)'s guidance is the (only) guidance, and we have been directed to submit ourselves to the Lord of the worlds;-
( سورة الأنعام , Al-Anaam, Chapter #6, Verse #71)Nay,-whoever submits His whole self to Allah and is a doer of good,- He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #112)Quote 8) Showing the differense of how we are all sinners vs those who submit to God. It would make sense for sinners to submit to God so that they receive guidance
Quote 9) The Perfection of God. It is He Who hath created for you all things that are on earth; Moreover His design comprehended the heavens, for He gave order and perfection to the seven firmaments; and of all things He hath perfect knowledge.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #29)Allah is He, than Whom there is no other god;- the Sovereign, the Holy One, the Source of Peace (and perfection), the Guardian of Faith, the Preserver of Safety, the Exalted in Might, the Irresistible, the Supreme: Glory to Allah. (High is He) above the partners they attribute to Him.
( سورة الحشر , Al-Hashr, Chapter #59, Verse #23)Quote 10) Jesus being the key to all these arguements can now be presented. They do blaspheme who say: “(Allah) is christ the son of Mary.” But said christ: “O Children of Isr
ael! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #72)In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is christ the son of Mary. Say: “Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every – one that is on the earth? For to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For Allah hath power over all things.”
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #17)Allah. There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #255)christ disdaineth nor to serve and worship Allah, nor do the angels, those nearest (to Allah.: those who disdain His worship and are arrogant,-He will gather them all together unto Himself to (answer).
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #172)Quote 4.) Uncorrupted Quran validates the Bible that is corrupted, Yet to uphold Truth, Quran says to study both books as Allah provides Truth to the disputer. To study both books, what was sent before and the guardian of it. [/i] Quote Your observation is correct Quote
Here is Food, and Here is Rotten Food. now the Food is to eat welll, and Rotten food is waste. corrupted food.This is option Four,
The uncorrupted Food (validates) the corrupted Food, yet to uphold sanitation (truth) The Food has to be used with Rotten Food as Allah provides nutrition facts to the disputer . To use both, the Old Rotten Food, and its soulmate uncorrutped Food.
Fresh food does in-fact allow you to know what is stale, spoiled or rotten but like cheese you can have some that smells spoiled, parts that are moldy, and yet can still be eaten and the moldy parts can be cut off without Affecting the rest.
Quote This is a flaw, a imperfection to Gods word. Which of the two is corrupted: the protestant canon or The protestant Canon, they both belong to Christianity
Quote Of coures your not going to believe me, its not you, its your mind, your heart that will not believe.
because to deny allah is to die, or deny your life, and everything about you.ALLAH is THE GOD the same one you believe in there is no other.
Quote yet speaking as one who as takin that step,
To deny everything to you are,For God,
Is the only way,
My words me nothing,
Let God show you.Only God can convince you.
As God can only convince me.This is my conclusion.
Good conclusion
Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2010,06:41) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 05 2010,06:31) We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you an apostle with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay!
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #87)
Hi BD,Who's the 'we'?
Ed J
I could just say it is the sense of Majesty but even better.Doesn't the Heavenly host serve and submit themselves to God
When the Angels comforted Jesus was it not God?
Yet to say we comforted Jesus or strengthened Jesus would be the right thing to say especially if Gabriel is relating the revelation to Muhammad.
Who destroyed Sodom and Gomorah? who warned Lot but the Angels who acted by God's command.
The Angels shouldn't be counted? To say we “We warned Lot” is true isn't it?
When God said let us go down and confound their language do you think GOD Himself went or Angels went
But who is able to build him an house, seeing the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain him? who am I then, that I should build him an house, save only to burn sacrifice before him?
2 Chronicles 2:5-7Quote (bodhitharta @ June 05 2010,07:31)
Different foundations, ONE GOD
Hi BD,Rom. 15:20 Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named,
lest I should build upon another man's foundation:1Cor. 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
Luke 6:49: But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth;
against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.Ed J
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 05 2010,07:46) Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2010,06:41) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 05 2010,06:31) We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you an apostle with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay!
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #87)
Hi BD,Who's the 'we'?
Ed J
1) I could just say it is the sense of Majesty but even better.Doesn't the Heavenly host serve and submit themselves to God
2) When the Angels comforted Jesus was it not God?
3) Yet to say we comforted Jesus or strengthened Jesus would be the right thing to say especially if Gabriel is relating the revelation to Muhammad.
4) Who destroyed Sodom and Gomorah? who warned Lot but the Angels who acted by God's command.
5) The Angels shouldn't be counted? To say we “We warned Lot” is true isn't it?
6) When God said let us go down and confound their language do you think GOD Himself went or Angels went
7) But who is able to build him an house, seeing the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain him? who am I then, that I should build him an house, save only to burn sacrifice before him?
2 Chronicles 2:5-7
Hi BD,1) So you guessing who the 'we' is?
2) No
3) Brain bondo
4) Yes, but what does that have to do with my question?
5) No
6) The bible is not specific on this.
7) What relevance does this have to my question?
Ed J
wow! Sounds like one big mess. Everyone needs to realize BOD truly loves God but is useing the wrong book( no offense) If BOD would just study the king James only and ask God to show him the truth ,He is going to start seeing God in a whole different way. if you would just pray to God and ask Him to reveal the truth to you, stay in the King James ONLY ,God is going to see whats in your heart, and the truth will be revealed to you.Theres nothing like feeling the Holy Spirit. You have to experience it for your self. BUT YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE JESUS IN YOUR HEART. THATS WHEN YOUR LIFE STARTS CHANGING. I want to just quote how I heard a speaker speak about Jesus.I took notes cause it really touched me. hope you take the time to read to the end.
jesus came to this earth SINLESS, SINLESS BLOOD. He came as a mediator.(one who stands in the middle, Has to represent both partys) He had to represent God(He was God) and had to represent man(He was man) and everything Adam lost in the garden; Jesus gained. Adam lost fellowship with God, Adam lost the glory, and lost dominion. But now JESUS has dominion! over the atmosphere. He syas; “peace be still to the storm and it stops, dominion over sickness, He healed the sick, dominion over death(could raise the dead), dominion over gravity. WATER WONT SINK HIM; HE WALKS ON TOP OF IT! He fulfills everything written in scriptures, and after 3 1/2 yrs. he had to face the truth of why He came. it wasnt just to preach the gospel and to perform all those miracles, it was to face the cross! First we started with the garden of Eden and now Jesus is in the garden of Gethsemane. The last Adam (Jesus) is praying and the same curse that was pronounced in the garden , from the sweat of your brow, now He is sweating, but his sweat turns to drops of blood and that sinless blood IS GOING TO REVERSE THE CURSE OF SINFUL MAN. when He made His way to the cross He had to be beaten with 39 stripes, Had to have hands and feet nailed to the cross, had a crown of thorns on His head, and a spike in His side. He didnt come just to save you from your sin, he also came to save you from the affects of sin. Sin affects our health(thats why we get sick), your mind,(thoughts) your hands (our works) your feet(our walk) our
heart(inside)and Jesus paid for all of that with a crown,on His head, nails in His hands and feet and a sword in His side. He done the complete work. he hung on that cross for 6 hrs. and as he hung there He was battling the devil, death, all forces of hell until He screamed out;MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAS THO FORSAKEN ME? Do you know He was quotting Psalms 22? The psalms he gave to David. THE WORD IN THE FLESH WAS QUOTTING THE WORD THAT WAS WRITTEN. Thats what got Him threw.(he was quotting his own words) and before He died , He cried out IT IS FINISHED! AND THE EARTH QUAKED, AND THE VEIL WAS RIPPED INTO.That is what He is saying to us. it is finished, the battle has been won. He conqured every situation. no matter what you are facing; HE IS THERE. he loves us very much. He gave His life for us, and all you have to do is surrender to him. Hope this makes you think a little bit. I thank Him every day for what he done for us.
God bless…
katjoQuote (katjo @ June 05 2010,11:09) wow! Sounds like one big mess. Everyone needs to realize BOD truly loves God but is useing the wrong book( no offense) If BOD would just study the king James only and ask God to show him the truth ,He is going to start seeing God in a whole different way. if you would just pray to God and ask Him to reveal the truth to you, stay in the King James ONLY ,God is going to see whats in your heart, and the truth will be revealed to you.Theres nothing like feeling the Holy Spirit. You have to experience it for your self. BUT YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE JESUS IN YOUR HEART. THATS WHEN YOUR LIFE STARTS CHANGING. I want to just quote how I heard a speaker speak about Jesus.I took notes cause it really touched me. hope you take the time to read to the end. jesus came to this earth SINLESS, SINLESS BLOOD. He came as a mediator.(one who stands in the middle, Has to represent both partys) He had to represent God(He was God) and had to represent man(He was man) and everything Adam lost in the garden; Jesus gained. Adam lost fellowship with God, Adam lost the glory, and lost dominion. But now JESUS has dominion! over the atmosphere. He syas; “peace be still to the storm and it stops, dominion over sickness, He healed the sick, dominion over death(could raise the dead), dominion over gravity. WATER WONT SINK HIM; HE WALKS ON TOP OF IT! He fulfills everything written in scriptures, and after 3 1/2 yrs. he had to face the truth of why He came. it wasnt just to preach the gospel and to perform all those miracles, it was to face the cross! First we started with the garden of Eden and now Jesus is in the garden of Gethsemane. The last Adam (Jesus) is praying and the same curse that was pronounced in the garden , from the sweat of your brow, now He is sweating, but his sweat turns to drops of blood and that sinless blood IS GOING TO REVERSE THE CURSE OF SINFUL MAN. when He made His way to the cross He had to be beaten with 39 stripes, Had to have hands and feet nailed to the cross, had a crown of thorns on His head, and a spike in His side. He didnt come just to save you from your sin, he also came to save you from the affects of sin. Sin affects our health(thats why we get sick), your mind,(thoughts) your hands (our works) your feet(our walk) our
heart(inside)and Jesus paid for all of that with a crown,on His head, nails in His hands and feet and a sword in His side. He done the complete work. he hung on that cross for 6 hrs. and as he hung there He was battling the devil, death, all forces of hell until He screamed out;MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAS THO FORSAKEN ME? Do you know He was quotting Psalms 22? The psalms he gave to David. THE WORD IN THE FLESH WAS QUOTTING THE WORD THAT WAS WRITTEN. Thats what got Him threw.(he was quotting his own words) and before He died , He cried out IT IS FINISHED! AND THE EARTH QUAKED, AND THE VEIL WAS RIPPED INTO.That is what He is saying to us. it is finished, the battle has been won. He conqured every situation. no matter what you are facing; HE IS THERE. he loves us very much. He gave His life for us, and all you have to do is surrender to him. Hope this makes you think a little bit. I thank Him every day for what he done for us.
God bless…
katjo
Hi Katjo,Nice discourse. Yes, BD is quite a person.
If he would use 'the quran' to prove “The Bible”=63,
I believe he would be doing what “YHVH”=63 wants from him.
But as you can see, he has things backwards, he try's to use “The Bible”
to prove the 'book of fraud'; doing a dis-service to YHVH and our Arabic brothers!God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (katjo @ June 05 2010,11:09) wow! Sounds like one big mess. Everyone needs to realize BOD truly loves God but is useing the wrong book( no offense) If BOD would just study the king James only and ask God to show him the truth ,He is going to start seeing God in a whole different way. if you would just pray to God and ask Him to reveal the truth to you, stay in the King James ONLY ,God is going to see whats in your heart, and the truth will be revealed to you.Theres nothing like feeling the Holy Spirit. You have to experience it for your self. BUT YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE JESUS IN YOUR HEART. THATS WHEN YOUR LIFE STARTS CHANGING. I want to just quote how I heard a speaker speak about Jesus.I took notes cause it really touched me. hope you take the time to read to the end. jesus came to this earth SINLESS, SINLESS BLOOD. He came as a mediator.(one who stands in the middle, Has to represent both partys) He had to represent God(He was God) and had to represent man(He was man) and everything Adam lost in the garden; Jesus gained. Adam lost fellowship with God, Adam lost the glory, and lost dominion. But now JESUS has dominion! over the atmosphere. He syas; “peace be still to the storm and it stops, dominion over sickness, He healed the sick, dominion over death(could raise the dead), dominion over gravity. WATER WONT SINK HIM; HE WALKS ON TOP OF IT! He fulfills everything written in scriptures, and after 3 1/2 yrs. he had to face the truth of why He came. it wasnt just to preach the gospel and to perform all those miracles, it was to face the cross! First we started with the garden of Eden and now Jesus is in the garden of Gethsemane. The last Adam (Jesus) is praying and the same curse that was pronounced in the garden , from the sweat of your brow, now He is sweating, but his sweat turns to drops of blood and that sinless blood IS GOING TO REVERSE THE CURSE OF SINFUL MAN. when He made His way to the cross He had to be beaten with 39 stripes, Had to have hands and feet nailed to the cross, had a crown of thorns on His head, and a spike in His side. He didnt come just to save you from your sin, he also came to save you from the affects of sin. Sin affects our health(thats why we get sick), your mind,(thoughts) your hands (our works) your feet(our walk) our
heart(inside)and Jesus paid for all of that with a crown,on His head, nails in His hands and feet and a sword in His side. He done the complete work. he hung on that cross for 6 hrs. and as he hung there He was battling the devil, death, all forces of hell until He screamed out;MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAS THO FORSAKEN ME? Do you know He was quotting Psalms 22? The psalms he gave to David. THE WORD IN THE FLESH WAS QUOTTING THE WORD THAT WAS WRITTEN. Thats what got Him threw.(he was quotting his own words) and before He died , He cried out IT IS FINISHED! AND THE EARTH QUAKED, AND THE VEIL WAS RIPPED INTO.That is what He is saying to us. it is finished, the battle has been won. He conqured every situation. no matter what you are facing; HE IS THERE. he loves us very much. He gave His life for us, and all you have to do is surrender to him. Hope this makes you think a little bit. I thank Him every day for what he done for us.
God bless…
katjo
You said my life will start changing, what does that mean? I love my life, I love my relationship with God so how would my life change?When you have Christ in you, you become more like him. Thats when the Holy Spirit starts guiding you. The Holy Spirit is going to give you so much peace, tell you when something is wrong before you go ahead and do it, stop you fom saying something you shouldnt say before you do,changing your attitude, You start gaining so much love for others. You want to go out and help others(what ever it takes) give to the poor, visit the sick. you start being more like Christ.(He tells us to do that) that comes from the heart. YOU WANT TO;JESUS ALSO SAYS; WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR OTHERS YOU HAVE DONE FOR ME. Than you know that YOU KNOW who your God is. Things that appeal to you(that might not be pleasing to God) just dont appeal to you anymore. We dont change our selfs, WE CANT we are all sinners. Christ in your heart and following his words is what starts changing the person you are. I heard our preacher say once; How do you know if you are truly saved? LOOK BEHIND YOU, and meant look at your past, (sense you've excepted Christ into your heart and started beleiving upon him) Have things started changing? Are bad habits dropping out of your life? Do you feel the Holt spirit talking to you when you get ready to do something unpleasing to God? Thats how you know you got it. You are truly saved! When your around people that dont know God and there might be drinking , filthy talk, gossiping all the time, violence(which God dis-approves us) enstead of following what the flesh wants to do and join in with them, the Holy Spirit IS NOT GOING TO LET YOU. Because it is going to convict you, till you get up and go. You start feeling guilt, AND IT WILL NOT LEAVE YOU ALONE. Holy Spirit guides you in the right way. When you start getting more amd more into Gods word and excepting Jesus, your gonna notice a different change about yourself. TILL YOU WANT TO SHOUT “THANK YOU GOD” you want to tell everyone about Jesus! I PROMISE YOU THAT! theres times you might be tested to see how strong your faith is in Him, and when He sees your faith is in him He is going to walk you out of that situation When something bad happens and you just need strength to get threw, you pray to God for it and tell Him you put your trust in Him, and for long your feeling better again. HE WILL NOT LEAVE YOU! He promises to take care of you, make sure you are provided with your needs(not your wants) but your needs. ive seen it happen many many times with people, cant pay bills, low on funds,or food and just keep praying and putting there faith in God, and He comes threw every time. God puts people in the right path of christians to help with what they need. He promises that, The prescence of the Holy spirit is what makes you know there is a God, you want to go out and tell others. Thats what we are suppose to do; SPREAD THE WORD, DRAW AS MANY IN AS WE CAN, GOD DOESNT WANT TO LEAVE ONE. God could use you as a witness to spread the word around yo to others, thats how it grows and grows,.. I could go on and on. JESUS gave His life for you, and all you have to do is just ask Him in, to for give you of you sins, and make Him your Lord and Savior, stay in His word, and you are going to start understanding things like you never did before.
SORRY EVERYONE ELSE IF YOU THINK I WAS PREACHING BUT SOMETIMES “YOU” MIGHT BE THE ONLY BIBLE A PERSON EVER READS.God bless you..
katjoQuote (katjo @ June 06 2010,00:04) When you have Christ in you, you become more like him. Thats when the Holy Spirit starts guiding you. The Holy Spirit is going to give you so much peace, tell you when something is wrong before you go ahead and do it, stop you fom saying something you shouldnt say before you do,changing your attitude, You start gaining so much love for others. You want to go out and help others(what ever it takes) give to the poor, visit the sick. you start being more like Christ.(He tells us to do that) that comes from the heart. YOU WANT TO;JESUS ALSO SAYS; WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR OTHERS YOU HAVE DONE FOR ME. Than you know that YOU KNOW who your God is. Things that appeal to you(that might not be pleasing to God) just dont appeal to you anymore. We dont change our selfs, WE CANT we are all sinners. Christ in your heart and following his words is what starts changing the person you are. I heard our preacher say once; How do you know if you are truly saved? LOOK BEHIND YOU, and meant look at your past, (sense you've excepted Christ into your heart and started beleiving upon him) Have things started changing? Are bad habits dropping out of your life? Do you feel the Holt spirit talking to you when you get ready to do something unpleasing to God? Thats how you know you got it. You are truly saved! When your around people that dont know God and there might be drinking , filthy talk, gossiping all the time, violence(which God dis-approves us) enstead of following what the flesh wants to do and join in with them, the Holy Spirit IS NOT GOING TO LET YOU. Because it is going to convict you, till you get up and go. You start feeling guilt, AND IT WILL NOT LEAVE YOU ALONE. Holy Spirit guides you in the right way. When you start getting more amd more into Gods word and excepting Jesus, your gonna notice a different change about yourself. TILL YOU WANT TO SHOUT “THANK YOU GOD” you want to tell everyone about Jesus! I PROMISE YOU THAT! theres times you might be tested to see how strong your faith is in Him, and when He sees your faith is in him He is going to walk you out of that situation When something bad happens and you just need strength to get threw, you pray to God for it and tell Him you put your trust in Him, and for long your feeling better again. HE WILL NOT LEAVE YOU! He promises to take care of you, make sure you are provided with your needs(not your wants) but your needs. ive seen it happen many many times with people, cant pay bills, low on funds,or food and just keep praying and putting there faith in God, and He comes threw every time. God puts people in the right path of christians to help with what they need. He promises that, The prescence of the Holy spirit is what makes you know there is a God, you want to go out and tell others. Thats what we are suppose to do; SPREAD THE WORD, DRAW AS MANY IN AS WE CAN, GOD DOESNT WANT TO LEAVE ONE. God could use you as a witness to spread the word around yo to others, thats how it grows and grows,.. I could go on and on. JESUS gave His life for you, and all you have to do is just ask Him in, to for give you of you sins, and make Him your Lord and Savior, stay in His word, and you are going to start understanding things like you never did before.
SORRY EVERYONE ELSE IF YOU THINK I WAS PREACHING BUT SOMETIMES “YOU” MIGHT BE THE ONLY BIBLE A PERSON EVER READS.God bless you..
katjoQuote When your around people that dont know God and there might be drinking Jesus drank
The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.
Matthew 11:18-20I was just making a point. regarding the rest of your post I'm not sure how you behaved before being converted but I have always loved people and assisted them whenever I could I don't doubt that your life has changed and that's beautiful but why make the assumption that someone else is not already where you think you've arrived at. It's like insisting on telling someone they don't know the beauty of Paris while at the same time they visit paris all the time and have loved the beauty of Paris before you ever even visited.
Why do you say ?
Quote He promises to take care of you, make sure you are provided with your needs(not your wants) but your needs. Why do you believe God doesn't give you what you want? You see you are still at a place in your development where you don't understand. God wants you to be fruitful and have plenty of whatever is on the earth that is lawful to have.
Once again just keep up the good progress and at some point Jesus will no doubt introduce you to The Father and you will really be happy and amazed then.
right now you believe Jesus is God so your stuck at the door, just go through and you'll be much more amazed than you could imagine.
jesus, drank wine. Very little!! I would quote you scripture were He says not to hang with drunkards, gossipers, murderers and etc… but you probably dont want to hear it either. And yes, Ive always been a good person too. ( before I excepted Christ) But it doesnt matter how good of a person we are, we are all born into sin and arent going to make it to heaven without Jesus.(your needs not your wants) If your faith is in Christ, He is going to make sure your needs are supplied. But he is not always going to give you your wants. That can get out of control, wanting too much all the time. we are not suppose to lust after things of this world, sure its nice to get new things, but people get so wrapped up in the love of money and think they dont need God. They let money be there God. Thats why the bible says, Dont be a lover of money! Our main focus should be Christ.
Can you answer this?… Do you beleive jesus was raised from the dead? And is He your Lord and Savior?Katjo
Quote (katjo @ June 06 2010,13:06) Can you answer this?… Do you beleive jesus was raised from the dead? And is He your Lord and Savior? Katjo
Hi Katjo,No he cannot answer that.
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (katjo @ June 06 2010,13:06) jesus, drank wine. Very little!! I would quote you scripture were He says not to hang with drunkards, gossipers, murderers and etc… but you probably dont want to hear it either. And yes, Ive always been a good person too. ( before I excepted Christ) But it doesnt matter how good of a person we are, we are all born into sin and arent going to make it to heaven without Jesus.(your needs not your wants) If your faith is in Christ, He is going to make sure your needs are supplied. But he is not always going to give you your wants. That can get out of control, wanting too much all the time. we are not suppose to lust after things of this world, sure its nice to get new things, but people get so wrapped up in the love of money and think they dont need God. They let money be there God. Thats why the bible says, Dont be a lover of money! Our main focus should be Christ.
Can you answer this?… Do you beleive jesus was raised from the dead? And is He your Lord and Savior?Katjo
Jesus was raised from the dead in this mannerBut Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
Matthew 8:21-23Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.
Luke 9:59-61The fact is Jesus was raised up to God alive but those who were dead spiritually thought they killed him.
How can Jesus be my lord and Saviour when his doctrine is not his?
Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
John 7:15-17If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
John 7:16-18So Jesus is not teaching you about himself but of another that is MUCH greater than he is, so who is that?
When you find out who that is you would have finally heard the words of Jesus with clarity instead of confusion.
Right now you believe that Jesus is greater than Jesus whatever that means
WRONG WRONG WRONG! JOHN 1;9 WHOSOEVER TRANSGRESSETH, AND ABIDETH NOT IN THE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST…HATH NOT GOD!!!! You you cant have the Holy Spirit without Jesus, and scripture says the body without Holy Spirit is dead. John3;36 those who beleive in the Son has eternal life, but those who do not OBEY the Son will never have life. Gods anger stays on them. john 8;24 Jesus's words; So i told you that you would die in your sins, yes, you will die in your sins if you dont beleive that I am He. Read the new Testament ,so much your missing out on. its all about Jesus!! Google ;How do I know the bible is true? and How do I know the Quran is true.. and start reading. INVESTIGATE!
katjo
Quote (katjo @ June 07 2010,04:48)
Jesus said that his doctrine did not belong to him, was he saying this in error?Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
John 7:15-17Is that true or false?
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 07 2010,04:57) Quote (katjo @ June 07 2010,04:48)
Jesus said that his doctrine did not belong to him, was he saying this in error?Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
John 7:15-17Is that true or false?
HI BD,Jesus doctrine was indeed his Father's(HolySpirit),
and that is why you should take heed! (Heb.2:3)The Bible teaches: There No forgiveness for rejecting HolySpirit as GOD.
Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven
him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the HolySpirit(speaketh against the HolySpirit),
it shall not be forgiven him; neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Mathew 12:32.
Quote (Ed J @ June 07 2010,05:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 07 2010,04:57) Quote (katjo @ June 07 2010,04:48)
Jesus said that his doctrine did not belong to him, was he saying this in error?Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
John 7:15-17Is that true or false?
HI BD,Jesus doctrine was indeed his Father's(HolySpirit),
and that is why you should take heed! (Heb.2:3)The Bible teaches: There No forgiveness for rejecting HolySpirit as GOD.
Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven
him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the HolySpirit(speaketh against the HolySpirit),
it shall not be forgiven him; neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Mathew 12:32.
Totally agree.
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