Who is this woman clothed with

[Wakeup]

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Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,19:00) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2013,20:00) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,14:36) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2013,12:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,07:00) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2013,10:13) yes ,but at the time of John ,he was not in heaven and so the heavenly Jerusalem was not complete ,or if any member of the 144k redeemed were missing , the temple of Solomon  was also a copy of the things to come , Terra. Heavenly Jerusalem was before the world was. Gods doctrine,ethics already existed. His will was before the world was. wakeup. wup what you mean the heavenly  Jerusalem was before the world was Terra. His ethics,his will was before all. wakeup. wup I do know that God as no beginning so I have to conclude that his mind was with him at all time, but what you try to say is that ;all what as been done in creation ,that that was always there from the beginning right this is to say that God's LOVE was always in him Terra. Yes thats about it,but not only his love but his will and his ethics also. wakeup. wup do you really understand what you are saying to me what I understand is that God was always God ,

Terra.

They followed the Lamb wheresoever he goes,
and therefore, they only know the *as it were* a new song.

God is from everlasting,his Word is in him from everlsting, The Holy spirit is in him from everlasting, his Wisdom is in him from everlasting,his Caracter is in him from everlasting, and his ethics is in him from everlasting. God is one.

wakeup.

[journey42]

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Terra. To have an idea if you are in the 144000 fold. study these scriptures. We are in the end times,and knowledge will be poured upon the seekers. John 6:26   Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled:: THESE FOLLOWERS ONLY FOLLOW JESUS FOR THEIR OWN PROFIT. FOR THEIR BELLY.(MATERIAL). Go to church for the blessings,and personal gain.  John 6:27   Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man SHALL GIVE UNTO YOU: for him hath GOD THE FATHER SEALED::  THESE FOLLOWERS FOLLOW JESUS FOR HIS TEACHINGS,THESE ARE THEM THAT GOD HAS SEALED,AND THEM JESUS WILL FEED WITH KNOWLEDGE. 2 Timothy 2:19   Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, HAVING HIS SEAL, The Lord KNOWETH them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity:: GOD KNOWS THEM THAT ARE HIS; THEM THAT DO NOT PARTAKE IN WICKEDNESS, BUT WALK IN RIGHTEOUSNESS. 2 Timothy 2:20   But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour: NOT ALL ARE THE SAME,SOME ARE GREATER THAN OTHERS.I SUPPOSE THE GOLD WILL BE THE FIRST RESURRECTED. Revelation 11:1   And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the *TEMPLE* of God, and the *ALTAR*, and *THEM* that worship therein::THE TEMPLE IS WHERE GOD RESIDES,AND THE ALTAR IS WHERE THE SACRIFICES ARE PERFORMED. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE SACRIFICED THEM SELVES, TO STAY AWAY FROM THE SPIRIT OF BABYLON. SEPERATE FROM BABYLON. NOT OF BABYLON. COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE.REV.18:4.  Revelation 11:2   But the court which is without the temple LEAVE OUT, and MEASURE IT NOT; for it is GIVEN unto the Gentiles: AND the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months:: THE REST IS NOT TO BE MEASURED;THE GENTILES WILL OVERWHELM THEM BECAUSE OF LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. Revelation 14:3   And they sung *AS IT WERE A NEW SONG* before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and NO MAN COULD LEARN THAT SONG *BUT* the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth:: THE 144000 ARE THE ONES WITH A NEW SONG TO THE WORLD,BUT IT IS NOT REALLY A NEW SONG. IT ONLY LOOKS NEW TO THE MAJORITY.(AS A NEW SONG).THIS IS THE TRUTH,THAT LOOKS NEW TO THE MAJORITY. GOD IS GETTING HIS SEALED ONES READY,BEFORE THE FIRST TRUMPET WILL SOUND.REV.7:3. Hurt not the earth neither the sea,nor the trees,*TILL* we have sealed the sevants of our God **IN** their foreheads. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

That was so well explained.
What you said in Rev 14:3 makes so much sense.  I never realised it in that way before.

If the 144,000 are the ones that followed the lamb wheresoever he goes, then Christ has been feeding them.  These ones are special and have been given full measure of the spirit, which is full knowledge also.

Well I am blown away by the fact they sang “AS IT WERE” a NEW SONG.
It's not a new song, it's always been there.  
Cannot be any more clearer than this.
Makes perfect sense.
This song that is not new, is the rejoicing of Christ, all over again, but in a big way.  
This song confirms everything Christ said was true, and his promises delivered.
This song can only be sung by the saints when resurrected, because then, all has come true, and scriptures fulfilled regarding them being one with Christ.

Thank you for sharing this.  I hear what Christ is really saying now. I am very excited to learn this.

Also, in Revelations
Rev 5:7   And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
Rev 5:8   And when he had taken the book, the four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odors, which are the prayers of saints.
Rev 5:9   And they sang a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred; and tongue, and people and nation:

These ones were the first ones to learn that new song.  They were singing it when the seals were about to be opened.  They were shown everything, and were witnesses to the Lamb. They were RESURRECTED already, shortly after Christ, and 2015 years before all their brethren. The first to confirm that all Christ said was true. The first ones to sing that new song, the Glory of Christ, the Son of the Most high God.

Rev 15:2   And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and and them that had gotten victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
Rev 15:3  And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb saying great and marvelous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

These are resurrected now and singing that same song that the 24 elders first sang.

[Devolution]

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Wakeup,Jan. wrote: [/quote] Quote Terra. To have an idea if you are in the 144000 fold. study these scriptures. We are in the end times,and knowledge will be poured upon the seekers. John 6:26   Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled:: THESE FOLLOWERS ONLY FOLLOW JESUS FOR THEIR OWN PROFIT. FOR THEIR BELLY.(MATERIAL). Go to church for the blessings,and personal gain.  John 6:27   Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man SHALL GIVE UNTO YOU: for him hath GOD THE FATHER SEALED::  THESE FOLLOWERS FOLLOW JESUS FOR HIS TEACHINGS,THESE ARE THEM THAT GOD HAS SEALED,AND THEM JESUS WILL FEED WITH KNOWLEDGE. 2 Timothy 2:19   Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, HAVING HIS SEAL, The Lord KNOWETH them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity:: GOD KNOWS THEM THAT ARE HIS; THEM THAT DO NOT PARTAKE IN WICKEDNESS, BUT WALK IN RIGHTEOUSNESS. 2 Timothy 2:20   But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour: NOT ALL ARE THE SAME,SOME ARE GREATER THAN OTHERS.I SUPPOSE THE GOLD WILL BE THE FIRST RESURRECTED. Revelation 11:1   And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the *TEMPLE* of God, and the *ALTAR*, and *THEM* that worship therein::THE TEMPLE IS WHERE GOD RESIDES,AND THE ALTAR IS WHERE THE SACRIFICES ARE PERFORMED. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE SACRIFICED THEM SELVES, TO STAY AWAY FROM THE SPIRIT OF BABYLON. SEPERATE FROM BABYLON. NOT OF BABYLON. COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE.REV.18:4.  Revelation 11:2   But the court which is without the temple LEAVE OUT, and MEASURE IT NOT; for it is GIVEN unto the Gentiles: AND the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months:: THE REST IS NOT TO BE MEASURED;THE GENTILES WILL OVERWHELM THEM BECAUSE OF LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. Revelation 14:3   And they sung *AS IT WERE A NEW SONG* before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and NO MAN COULD LEARN THAT SONG *BUT* the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth:: THE 144000 ARE THE ONES WITH A NEW SONG TO THE WORLD,BUT IT IS NOT REALLY A NEW SONG. IT ONLY LOOKS NEW TO THE MAJORITY.(AS A NEW SONG).THIS IS THE TRUTH,THAT LOOKS NEW TO THE MAJORITY. GOD IS GETTING HIS SEALED ONES READY,BEFORE THE FIRST TRUMPET WILL SOUND.REV.7:3. Hurt not the earth neither the sea,nor the trees,*TILL* we have sealed the sevants of our God **IN** their foreheads. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, That was so well explained. What you said in Rev 14:3 makes so much sense.  I never realised it in that way before. If the 144,000 are the ones that followed the lamb wheresoever he goes, then Christ has been feeding them.  These ones are special and have been given full measure of the spirit, which is full knowledge also. Well I am blown away by the fact they sang “AS IT WERE” a NEW SONG. It's not a new song, it's always been there.   Cannot be any more clearer than this. Makes perfect sense. This song that is not new, is the rejoicing of Christ, all over again, but in a big way.   This song confirms everything Christ said was true, and his promises delivered. This song can only be sung by the saints when resurrected, because then, all has come true, and scriptures fulfilled regarding them being one with Christ. Thank you for sharing this.  I hear what Christ is really saying now. I am very excited to learn this. Also, in Revelations Rev 5:7   And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. Rev 5:8   And when he had taken the book, the four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odors, which are the prayers of saints. Rev 5:9   And they sang a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred; and tongue, and people and nation: These ones were the first ones to learn that new song.  They were singing it when the seals were about to be opened.  They were shown everything, and were witnesses to the Lamb.  They were RESURRECTED already, shortly after Christ, and 2015 years before all their brethren.  The first to confirm that all Christ said was true.  The first ones to sing that new song, the Glory of Christ, the Son of the Most high God. Rev 15:2   And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and and them that had gotten victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. Rev 15:3  And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb saying great and marvelous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. These are resurrected now and singing that same song that the 24 elders first sang.

Hi J42…

Guess what….

Jesus sang this “song” too!!

The Fathers new “song”.

Check out Psalm ch 40.

Notice Psalm 40:7 is linked to Hebrews 10:7.

Greetings sister.

[terraricca]

Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 25 2013,17:06)

Wakeup,Jan. wrote: [/quote] Quote Terra. To have an idea if you are in the 144000 fold. study these scriptures. We are in the end times,and knowledge will be poured upon the seekers. John 6:26   Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled:: THESE FOLLOWERS ONLY FOLLOW JESUS FOR THEIR OWN PROFIT. FOR THEIR BELLY.(MATERIAL). Go to church for the blessings,and personal gain.  John 6:27   Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man SHALL GIVE UNTO YOU: for him hath GOD THE FATHER SEALED::  THESE FOLLOWERS FOLLOW JESUS FOR HIS TEACHINGS,THESE ARE THEM THAT GOD HAS SEALED,AND THEM JESUS WILL FEED WITH KNOWLEDGE. 2 Timothy 2:19   Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, HAVING HIS SEAL, The Lord KNOWETH them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity:: GOD KNOWS THEM THAT ARE HIS; THEM THAT DO NOT PARTAKE IN WICKEDNESS, BUT WALK IN RIGHTEOUSNESS. 2 Timothy 2:20   But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour: NOT ALL ARE THE SAME,SOME ARE GREATER THAN OTHERS.I SUPPOSE THE GOLD WILL BE THE FIRST RESURRECTED. Revelation 11:1   And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the *TEMPLE* of God, and the *ALTAR*, and *THEM* that worship therein::THE TEMPLE IS WHERE GOD RESIDES,AND THE ALTAR IS WHERE THE SACRIFICES ARE PERFORMED. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE SACRIFICED THEM SELVES, TO STAY AWAY FROM THE SPIRIT OF BABYLON. SEPERATE FROM BABYLON. NOT OF BABYLON. COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE.REV.18:4.  Revelation 11:2   But the court which is without the temple LEAVE OUT, and MEASURE IT NOT; for it is GIVEN unto the Gentiles: AND the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months:: THE REST IS NOT TO BE MEASURED;THE GENTILES WILL OVERWHELM THEM BECAUSE OF LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. Revelation 14:3   And they sung *AS IT WERE A NEW SONG* before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and NO MAN COULD LEARN THAT SONG *BUT* the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth:: THE 144000 ARE THE ONES WITH A NEW SONG TO THE WORLD,BUT IT IS NOT REALLY A NEW SONG. IT ONLY LOOKS NEW TO THE MAJORITY.(AS A NEW SONG).THIS IS THE TRUTH,THAT LOOKS NEW TO THE MAJORITY. GOD IS GETTING HIS SEALED ONES READY,BEFORE THE FIRST TRUMPET WILL SOUND.REV.7:3. Hurt not the earth neither the sea,nor the trees,*TILL* we have sealed the sevants of our God **IN** their foreheads. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, That was so well explained. What you said in Rev 14:3 makes so much sense.  I never realised it in that way before. If the 144,000 are the ones that followed the lamb wheresoever he goes, then Christ has been feeding them.  These ones are special and have been given full measure of the spirit, which is full knowledge also. Well I am blown away by the fact they sang “AS IT WERE” a NEW SONG. It's not a new song, it's always been there.   Cannot be any more clearer than this. Makes perfect sense. This song that is not new, is the rejoicing of Christ, all over again, but in a big way.   This song confirms everything Christ said was true, and his promises delivered. This song can only be sung by the saints when resurrected, because then, all has come true, and scriptures fulfilled regarding them being one with Christ. Thank you for sharing this.  I hear what Christ is really saying now. I am very excited to learn this. Also, in Revelations Rev 5:7   And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. Rev 5:8   And when he had taken the book, the four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odors, which are the prayers of saints. Rev 5:9   And they sang a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred; and tongue, and people and nation: These ones were the first ones to learn that new song.  They were singing it when the seals were about to be opened.  They were shown everything, and were witnesses to the Lamb.  They were RESURRECTED already, shortly after Christ, and 2015 years before all their brethren.  The first to confirm that all Christ said was true.  The first ones to sing that new song, the Glory of Christ, the Son of the Most high God. Rev 15:2   And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and and them that had gotten victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. Rev 15:3  And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb saying great and marvelous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. These are resurrected now and singing that same song that the 24 elders first sang.

family support?

you skipped Rev 14 yeah I can see what going on here

[terraricca]

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This song that is not new, is the rejoicing of Christ, all over again, but in a big way.

family support ,more important than scriptures truth ,???

Rev 14;No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth.

[Wakeup]

Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 25 2013,22:06)

Wakeup,Jan. wrote: [/quote] Quote Terra. To have an idea if you are in the 144000 fold. study these scriptures. We are in the end times,and knowledge will be poured upon the seekers. John 6:26   Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled:: THESE FOLLOWERS ONLY FOLLOW JESUS FOR THEIR OWN PROFIT. FOR THEIR BELLY.(MATERIAL). Go to church for the blessings,and personal gain.  John 6:27   Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man SHALL GIVE UNTO YOU: for him hath GOD THE FATHER SEALED::  THESE FOLLOWERS FOLLOW JESUS FOR HIS TEACHINGS,THESE ARE THEM THAT GOD HAS SEALED,AND THEM JESUS WILL FEED WITH KNOWLEDGE. 2 Timothy 2:19   Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, HAVING HIS SEAL, The Lord KNOWETH them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity:: GOD KNOWS THEM THAT ARE HIS; THEM THAT DO NOT PARTAKE IN WICKEDNESS, BUT WALK IN RIGHTEOUSNESS. 2 Timothy 2:20   But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour: NOT ALL ARE THE SAME,SOME ARE GREATER THAN OTHERS.I SUPPOSE THE GOLD WILL BE THE FIRST RESURRECTED. Revelation 11:1   And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the *TEMPLE* of God, and the *ALTAR*, and *THEM* that worship therein::THE TEMPLE IS WHERE GOD RESIDES,AND THE ALTAR IS WHERE THE SACRIFICES ARE PERFORMED. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE SACRIFICED THEM SELVES, TO STAY AWAY FROM THE SPIRIT OF BABYLON. SEPERATE FROM BABYLON. NOT OF BABYLON. COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE.REV.18:4.  Revelation 11:2   But the court which is without the temple LEAVE OUT, and MEASURE IT NOT; for it is GIVEN unto the Gentiles: AND the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months:: THE REST IS NOT TO BE MEASURED;THE GENTILES WILL OVERWHELM THEM BECAUSE OF LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. Revelation 14:3   And they sung *AS IT WERE A NEW SONG* before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and NO MAN COULD LEARN THAT SONG *BUT* the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth:: THE 144000 ARE THE ONES WITH A NEW SONG TO THE WORLD,BUT IT IS NOT REALLY A NEW SONG. IT ONLY LOOKS NEW TO THE MAJORITY.(AS A NEW SONG).THIS IS THE TRUTH,THAT LOOKS NEW TO THE MAJORITY. GOD IS GETTING HIS SEALED ONES READY,BEFORE THE FIRST TRUMPET WILL SOUND.REV.7:3. Hurt not the earth neither the sea,nor the trees,*TILL* we have sealed the sevants of our God **IN** their foreheads. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, That was so well explained. What you said in Rev 14:3 makes so much sense.  I never realised it in that way before. If the 144,000 are the ones that followed the lamb wheresoever he goes, then Christ has been feeding them.  These ones are special and have been given full measure of the spirit, which is full knowledge also. Well I am blown away by the fact they sang “AS IT WERE” a NEW SONG. It's not a new song, it's always been there.   Cannot be any more clearer than this. Makes perfect sense. This song that is not new, is the rejoicing of Christ, all over again, but in a big way.   This song confirms everything Christ said was true, and his promises delivered. This song can only be sung by the saints when resurrected, because then, all has come true, and scriptures fulfilled regarding them being one with Christ. Thank you for sharing this.  I hear what Christ is really saying now. I am very excited to learn this. Also, in Revelations Rev 5:7   And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. Rev 5:8   And when he had taken the book, the four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odors, which are the prayers of saints. Rev 5:9   And they sang a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred; and tongue, and people and nation: These ones were the first ones to learn that new song.  They were singing it when the seals were about to be opened.  They were shown everything, and were witnesses to the Lamb.  They were RESURRECTED already, shortly after Christ, and 2015 years before all their brethren.  The first to confirm that all Christ said was true.  The first ones to sing that new song, the Glory of Christ, the Son of the Most high God. Rev 15:2   And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and and them that had gotten victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. Rev 15:3  And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb saying great and marvelous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. These are resurrected now and singing that same song that the 24 elders first sang.

Thank you journey.

wakeup.

[Wakeup]

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devo Quote This song that is not new, is the rejoicing of Christ, all over again, but in a big way.   family support ,more important than scriptures truth ,??? Rev 14;No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth.

Terra.

Every time we discover something new, we rejoice.

We are all family,dont you think so?

wakeup.

[Devolution]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2013,02:54)

devo Quote This song that is not new, is the rejoicing of Christ, all over again, but in a big way.   family support ,more important than scriptures truth ,??? Rev 14;No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth.

Terra,

Who do you think TAUGHT those 144k that song?

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2013,02:54) devo Quote This song that is not new, is the rejoicing of Christ, all over again, but in a big way.   family support ,more important than scriptures truth ,??? Rev 14;No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. Terra. Every time we discover something new, we rejoice. We are all family,dont you think so? wakeup.

this was not my point

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2013,02:54) devo Quote This song that is not new, is the rejoicing of Christ, all over again, but in a big way.   family support ,more important than scriptures truth ,??? Rev 14;No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. Terra. Every time we discover something new, we rejoice. We are all family,dont you think so? wakeup.

tell me did they could sing it because they are the ONLY REDEEMED ,OR ARE THEY REDEEMED BECAUSE THEY COULD SING THE SONG

I BELIEVE IT IS BECAUSE THE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH AND THERE FOR ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE ABLE TO SING THE NEW SONG ;BECAUSE THEY ARE IN A NEW PLACE NOW ,

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2013,02:54) devo Quote This song that is not new, is the rejoicing of Christ, all over again, but in a big way.   family support ,more important than scriptures truth ,??? Rev 14;No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. Terra, Who do you think TAUGHT those 144k that song?

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Who do you think TAUGHT those 144k that song?

it is like asking who saves us is not all of Gods will

but can you as a men learn thing that are taught in heaven to angel NO ,because you are men and not angel ,

so what the redeemed can see and sing belong to heaven not to the earth

[Wakeup]

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Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 25 2013,22:46) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2013,02:54) devo Quote This song that is not new, is the rejoicing of Christ, all over again, but in a big way.   family support ,more important than scriptures truth ,??? Rev 14;No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. Terra, Who do you think TAUGHT those 144k that song? DEVO Quote Who do you think TAUGHT those 144k that song? it is like asking who saves us is not all of Gods will but can you as a men learn thing that are taught in heaven to angel  NO ,because you are men and not angel , so what the redeemed can see and sing belong to heaven not to the earth

Terra.

Why are you thinking that way?

You have the word of God dont you?

wakeup.

[Devolution]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2013,04:41)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 25 2013,22:43) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2013,02:54) devo Quote This song that is not new, is the rejoicing of Christ, all over again, but in a big way.   family support ,more important than scriptures truth ,??? Rev 14;No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. Terra. Every time we discover something new, we rejoice. We are all family,dont you think so? wakeup. tell me did they could sing it because they are the ONLY REDEEMED ,OR ARE THEY REDEEMED BECAUSE THEY COULD SING THE SONG I BELIEVE IT IS BECAUSE THE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH AND THERE FOR ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE ABLE TO SING THE NEW SONG ;BECAUSE THEY ARE IN A NEW PLACE NOW ,

That's not entirely accurate.

The 12 Apostles are with Christ right now.
THEY were a type of FIRSTFRUIT.
THEY know this song too.
BUT…but…the 12 Apostles are no longer MEN, they are SPIRIT.

Understand?

The 144k are NOT in heaven with Christ yet okay.
They are still MEN.

If the 12 foundations of the NEW LAW don't know that song, then the foundations are NOT solid now are they!

And if the One sent didn't know this song either, then the 144k are even superior to Christ.

And that is just WRONG.

So before you go shooting off your mouth, try to GRASP what I was saying to Journey and stop accusing all the time.
It's becoming very tiresome.

[Devolution]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2013,04:45)

Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 25 2013,22:46) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2013,02:54) devo Quote This song that is not new, is the rejoicing of Christ, all over again, but in a big way.   family support ,more important than scriptures truth ,??? Rev 14;No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. Terra, Who do you think TAUGHT those 144k that song? DEVO Quote Who do you think TAUGHT those 144k that song? it is like asking who saves us is not all of Gods will but can you as a men learn thing that are taught in heaven to angel  NO ,because you are men and not angel , so what the redeemed can see and sing belong to heaven not to the earth

By the way, as usual, you didn't answer, you dodged the question.

DON'T answer with an answer.

Answer me.

WHO TAUGHT THE 144k THAT SONG?

ANSWER IT.

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2013,04:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 25 2013,22:43) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2013,02:54) devo Quote This song that is not new, is the rejoicing of Christ, all over again, but in a big way.   family support ,more important than scriptures truth ,??? Rev 14;No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. Terra. Every time we discover something new, we rejoice. We are all family,dont you think so? wakeup. tell me did they could sing it because they are the ONLY REDEEMED ,OR ARE THEY REDEEMED BECAUSE THEY COULD SING THE SONG I BELIEVE IT IS BECAUSE THE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH AND THERE FOR ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE ABLE TO SING THE NEW SONG ;BECAUSE THEY ARE IN A NEW PLACE NOW , That's not entirely accurate. The 12 Apostles are with Christ right now. THEY were a type of FIRSTFRUIT. THEY know this song too. BUT…but…the 12 Apostles are no longer MEN, they are SPIRIT. Understand? The 144k are NOT in heaven with Christ yet okay. They are still MEN. If the 12 foundations of the NEW LAW don't know that song, then the foundations are NOT solid now are they! And if the One sent didn't know this song either, then the 144k are even superior to Christ. And that is just WRONG. So before you go shooting off your mouth, try to GRASP what I was saying to Journey and stop accusing all the time. It's becoming very tiresome.

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Understand? The 144k are NOT in heaven with Christ yet okay. They are still MEN.

Phil 3:14 I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.
Phil 3:15 All of us who are mature should take such a view of things. And if on some point you think differently, that too God will make clear to you.
Phil 3:16 Only let us live up to what we have already attained.

the 144k agree they could be not all dead yet to me it still a question ,

but like I say they can not sing the new song until they have been redeemed from the earth ,that is what scriptures says

an new song is made usually for new things right

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And if the One sent didn't know this song either, then the 144k are even superior to Christ.

this i do not understand clearly could you rephrase this

[abe]

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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 25 2013,16:03) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,19:00) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2013,20:00) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,14:36) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2013,12:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,07:00) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2013,10:13) yes ,but at the time of John ,he was not in heaven and so the heavenly Jerusalem was not complete ,or if any member of the 144k redeemed were missing , the temple of Solomon  was also a copy of the things to come , Terra. Heavenly Jerusalem was before the world was. Gods doctrine,ethics already existed. His will was before the world was. wakeup. wup what you mean the heavenly  Jerusalem was before the world was Terra. His ethics,his will was before all. wakeup. wup I do know that God as no beginning so I have to conclude that his mind was with him at all time, but what you try to say is that ;all what as been done in creation ,that that was always there from the beginning right this is to say that God's LOVE was always in him Terra. Yes thats about it,but not only his love but his will and his ethics also. wakeup. wup do you really understand what you are saying to me what I understand is that God was always God , Terra. They followed the Lamb wheresoever he goes, and therefore, they only know the *as it were* a new song. God is from everlasting,his Word is in him from everlsting, The Holy spirit is in him from everlasting, his Wisdom is in him from everlasting,his Caracter is in him from everlasting, and his ethics is in him from everlasting. God is one. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Is.65:17-18 For Behold, I CREATE new Heavens and a new Earth; and the former shall not be remembered or come to mind. But be glad and rejoice forever in what I CREATE ; for Behold, I CREATE Jerusalem as a rejoicing, and her people a joy.

Rev.21:1-2 And I saw a New Heaven and a New earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had PASSED away. Also there was no more sea. Then I, John, saw the holy city, NEW Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Jesus Christ died. What do you think is his resurrected body is?

Peace brother……………

[2besee]

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God is from everlasting,his Word is in him from everlsting, The Holy spirit is in him from everlasting, his Wisdom is in him from everlasting,his Caracter is in him from everlasting, and his ethics is in him from everlasting. God is one.

See Wakeup, with this that you post, as an example, I do say “Amen”

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And Abe, good verses that you use.

[Wakeup]

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Quote God is from everlasting,his Word is in him from everlsting, The Holy spirit is in him from everlasting, his Wisdom is in him from everlasting,his Caracter is in him from everlasting, and his ethics is in him from everlasting. God is one. See Wakeup, with this that you post, as an example, I do say “Amen” —- And Abe, good verses that you use.

Praise God.

wakeup.

[Devolution]

terraricca,Jan. wrote:

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Terra,

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the 144k agree they could be not all dead yet to me it still a question

That's okay, you still need to decide, no problem at all.

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but like I say they can not sing the new song until they have been redeemed from the earth ,that is what scriptures says an new song is made usually for new things right

It's 2:30 am in the morning, I only meant to come on and have a quick look, so I will answer you tomorrow sometime.
I understand where you are coming from and it's perfectly understandable why you say what you do, it really is.
What we are debating is the finer details…like “when” did the 144k first learn this song…before resurrection or after…and WHY…and if ANY OTHERS know this same song…human or Spirit.

Speak tomorrow.
Bye for now.

[mikeboll64]

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You seem to understand that the woman is Gods teachings(doctrine).

I understand that is what you are claiming.

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This was Gods woman taught to israel.

So the righteous ways God tried to teach the Israelites were “God's woman”?

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Jesus born out of mother Zion. Then Jesus took over for a short while,and he gave it over to men to teach;this is the daughter of Zion.

Now I'm lost again.  Are you saying that the mother BECAME her own daughter?

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Jesus will come back to take over,and he will bring her to perfection, in his 1000yr reign.This will be his treasure,his bride,the work of his hand.

So Jesus will bring his own “mother” to perfection, and then marry her?

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When christ has gone up to his Father,the woman(daughter of Zion) has been persecuted by Paul,and God helped the woman and hides her.This is when they had to hide behind locked doors here and there.

This part kind of makes sense – as ONE possible understanding.  But the doctrine of Christians was not persecuted for only 3 and a half years.  The persecution goes on to this day.

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