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  • #330533
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 27 2013,01:59)
    But can you admit/see that there is a definite link?


    Yes I can.  What light, if any, can Daniel 9:27 shed on this three and a half years?

    It seems the Messiah was cut off in the middle of a week of years – leaving the other three and a half years unaccounted for.

    Is this a part of it? Or unrelated?

    #330534
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 27 2013,05:36)
    We call her the INTERPRETER.


    :) She does seem to have a gift. She has a way of feeding solid food to those of us who are still on milk. (Or at least cause the understanding to begin…. )

    #330535
    mikeboll64
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    Guys, this prophecy stuff is VERY tough for me. I'm not unintelligent, but there is SO much interlinked information, from scores of scriptures all throughout the Bible.

    And it doesn't help when 6 different people are posting their 6 different understandings of the same, exact scriptures. :)

    Here are the basics, as I currently understand what I'm reading here:

    1. The woman is the “doctrine” of God, which I believe is the “righteous ways”, or even “righteous essence” of God.

    2. Jesus is the child she is about to give birth to.

    3. Satan is the dragon, waiting to devour the child.

    If that is the gist of it, I have some questions. Let me know if I'm on the right track.

    #330549
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2013,13:07)

    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 27 2013,01:59)
    But can you admit/see that there is a definite link?


    Yes I can.  What light, if any, can Daniel 9:27 shed on this three and a half years?

    It seems the Messiah was cut off in the middle of a week of years – leaving the other three and a half years unaccounted for.

    Is this a part of it?  Or unrelated?


    MikeB.

    Jesus was cut off in the mids of the week,that is 3/half yrs.of preaching. half of 7=3/half.

    wakeup.

    #330551
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2013,13:24)
    Guys, this prophecy stuff is VERY tough for me.  I'm not unintelligent, but there is SO much interlinked information, from scores of scriptures all throughout the Bible.

    And it doesn't help when 6 different people are posting their 6 different understandings of the same, exact scriptures.  :)

    Here are the basics, as I currently understand what I'm reading here:

    1.  The woman is the “doctrine” of God, which I believe is the “righteous ways”, or even “righteous essence” of God.

    2.  Jesus is the child she is about to give birth to.

    3.  Satan is the dragon, waiting to devour the child.

    If that is the gist of it, I have some questions.  Let me know if I'm on the right track.


    Mike B.

    1. correct.
    2. correct.
    3. correct. This was when king Herod wanted to find the baby, and kill him. He could not find him because Mary and Joseph fled to egypt informed by the angel.

    So Herod ordered to kill all babies under 2yrs old.
    See jer.31:15–17.

    wakeup.

    #330561
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 29 2013,17:18)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2013,13:07)

    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 27 2013,01:59)
    But can you admit/see that there is a definite link?


    Yes I can.  What light, if any, can Daniel 9:27 shed on this three and a half years?

    It seems the Messiah was cut off in the middle of a week of years – leaving the other three and a half years unaccounted for.

    Is this a part of it?  Or unrelated?


    MikeB.

    Jesus was cut off in the mids of the week,that is 3/half yrs.of preaching. half of 7=3/half.

    wakeup.


    Hi Mike,

    Smite the shepherd & the sheep will be scattered is what Wakeup is alluding too here…there begins the second 3 1/2 “days” of that week…after crucifixion.

    Cheers.

    #330574
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2013,13:24)
    Guys, this prophecy stuff is VERY tough for me.  I'm not unintelligent, but there is SO much interlinked information, from scores of scriptures all throughout the Bible.

    And it doesn't help when 6 different people are posting their 6 different understandings of the same, exact scriptures.  :)

    Here are the basics, as I currently understand what I'm reading here:

    1.  The woman is the “doctrine” of God, which I believe is the “righteous ways”, or even “righteous essence” of God.

    2.  Jesus is the child she is about to give birth to.

    3.  Satan is the dragon, waiting to devour the child.

    If that is the gist of it, I have some questions.  Let me know if I'm on the right track.


    Mike…

    You CAN do it…
    You already know how to break down scripture for yourself, that is a sign of maturity…you ARE, in my opinion, overdue for this next step…dive in brother   :)

    The only advice I feel you'd maybe need is this…the OT…if you haven't already, read it over & over…cover to cover till a complete picture emerges seared into your brain…then you WILL start seeing things from the OT prophecies that don't belong to that old picture…especially when something just doesn't sit right, and when that happens, then you know you're onto something obscured, some hidden jewel, and that's extremely exciting…because it means you're being rewarded from on high.

    About the 6 different people posting…agreed.

    I don't mind taking the back seat & just interjecting here & there to avoid the “too many chefs in the kitchen” syndrome.

    After all, the prophecies are for you too.

    God bless.

    #330639
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 29 2013,02:14)
    You CAN do it…


    Thanks for the encouragement………..

    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 29 2013,02:14)
    …then you WILL start seeing things from the OT prophecies that don't belong to that old picture…especially when something just doesn't sit right, and when that happens, then you know you're onto something obscured, some hidden jewel, and that's extremely exciting…because it means you're being rewarded from on high.


    ………. and the carrot at the end of the stick!  :)  (I have had a couple moments like those of which you speak. And they ARE exciting.  I'm on my 5th time through the OT right now…….. just started Deut.)

    #330640
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 29 2013,00:29)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2013,13:24)

    1.  The woman is the “doctrine” of God, which I believe is the “righteous ways”, or even “righteous essence” of God.

    2.  Jesus is the child she is about to give birth to.

    3.  Satan is the dragon, waiting to devour the child.


    Mike B.

    1. correct.
    2. correct.
    3. correct.


    Okay guys,

    Revelation 12:1
    A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.

    What does “clothed with the sun” represent?

    #330646
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 30 2013,12:40)

    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 29 2013,02:14)
    You CAN do it…


    Thanks for the encouragement………..

    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 29 2013,02:14)
    …then you WILL start seeing things from the OT prophecies that don't belong to that old picture…especially when something just doesn't sit right, and when that happens, then you know you're onto something obscured, some hidden jewel, and that's extremely exciting…because it means you're being rewarded from on high.


    ………. and the carrot at the end of the stick!  :)  (I have had a couple moments like those of which you speak.  And they ARE exciting.  I'm on my 5th time through the OT right now…….. just started Deut.)


    Hi Mike,

    I suggest you read the “AKJV Bible” this time, it should help you to see.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #330667
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 30 2013,12:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 29 2013,00:29)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2013,13:24)

    1.  The woman is the “doctrine” of God, which I believe is the “righteous ways”, or even “righteous essence” of God.

    2.  Jesus is the child she is about to give birth to.

    3.  Satan is the dragon, waiting to devour the child.


    Mike B.

    1. correct.
    2. correct.
    3. correct.


    Okay guys,

    Revelation 12:1
    A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.

    What does “clothed with the sun” represent?


    Hi Mike

    The sun means “light” (truth)

    Psalms 89:15 Blessed is the people that know the joyful sound: they shall walk, O LORD, in the light of thy countenance.

    I'm going to expand a little.

    This woman is clothed with truth. That is her protection, her armour.
    This woman is God's government … his system, his rules, the way he operates, it's all covered in truth. It's designed for our protection, not for our destruction.

    Psalms 84:11 For the LORD God is a sun and shield: the LORD will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.

    (So you can compare);
    whereas, Satan's woman, the harlot, has no covering. No truth, no armour. She is naked, and she is in darkness. She can give her children no light (truth). She cannot protect her children but destroys them by making them drunk.

    Job 12:25 They grope in the dark without light, and he maketh them to stagger like a drunken man.

    #330677
    Wakeup
    Participant

    J42.

    The harlot is clothed with gold and pearls,and precious stones,and all blasphemies.
    All evil and material things.

    wakeup.

    #330684
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 30 2013,22:35)
    J42.

    The harlot is clothed with gold and pearls,and precious stones,and all blasphemies.
    All evil and material things.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Yes good point. But does a harlot keep her clothes on for very long? :laugh: :laugh:
    I was thinking spiritually naked.

    Hebrews 4:13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

    Revelation 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
    (We know theres a deeper meaning to this one, so not sure I can use it, but it looks good for now!)

    Ok, she's got clothes on!

    #330695
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Revelation 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

    THE 10 HORNS ARE HERE,BUT IN THE DARK PLACE.
    OPERATING FROM BEHIND THE CURTAINS.THEY OWN ALL THE EARTH JUST ABOUT.THEY ARE PULLING THE STRINGS.WORSHIPPERS OF LUCIFER.

    THIS IS HAPPENING NOW; THE 10KINGS ARE PURPOSELY
    MAKING HER BANKRUPT. THEY BELIEVE IN ORDER OUT OF CHAOS. THE PUROSE IS TO BRING IN MARSHALL LAW,SO THEY CAN HAVE CONTROL BY FORCE,AND BY NUMBERING THE POPULATION. GOD IS WORKING.

    Revelation 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

    THE NATIONS WILL AGREE TO BE UNDER ONE CONTROL. A WORLD COMMONWEALTH.THE FALSE PROPHET WILL BE IN CHARGE.THE SON OF PERDITION.
    HE WILL DECLARE WAR AGAINST THE TRUE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST,AND FORCE THEM TO SUBMIT TO HIM,BY TAKING HIS NUMBER. THIS IS THE FINAL TEST FOR THE LUKE WARM CHRISTIANS,NOT THE 144000.

    Revelation 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
    THIS GREAT CITY, THAT THE WORLD LOVE SO MUCH,BECAUSE SHE CAN GIVE MEN ALL THEIR FLESHLY DESIRES.ALL WHAT MEN HUNGERS FOR.

    SHE WILL GO BANKRUPT,AND A NEW SYSTEM PUT IN PLACE. A NAZI SYSTEM,JUST LIKE IN THE DAYS OF HITLER,WHEN ALL THE JEWS WERE PERSECUTED.
    THE SAME WILL THEY DO TO THE CHRISTIANS.

    LETS JUST FOCUS ON THE LORD,FOR HE ALONE CAN PROTECT US.NO NEED TO HIDE UNDER THE ROCK.
    BLESSED IS HE ,WHEN THE LORD COMES,AND FIND HIM SEEKING,AND NOT ASLEEP.

    wakeup.

    #331385
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2013,20:24)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 30 2013,12:40)
    I'm on my 5th time through the OT right now…..


    Hi Mike,

    I suggest you read the “AKJV Bible” this time, it should help you to see.


    I'm reading the NET Bible this time – complete with every footnote. In some chapters, there are over 100 of them. Because of that, I am reading only one chapter per day.

    Maybe next time will be the KJV – but this one will take me a while. :)

    #331386
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 29 2013,23:42)
    The sun means “light” (truth)


    Okay, that makes sense.

    What about the moon?

    #331395
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 05 2013,12:49)

    Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 29 2013,23:42)
    The sun means “light” (truth)


    Okay, that makes sense.

    What about the moon?


    MikeB.

    The moon: this woman is not standing on earth but the moon,and she is clothed with the sun,represents her as Holy. For she is Gods woman.

    wakeup.

    #331719
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 05 2013,12:49)

    Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 29 2013,23:42)
    The sun means “light” (truth)


    Okay, that makes sense.

    What about the moon?


    Hi Mike,

    I wasn't going to bring this up, but….there is a duality at play here if we wish to analyse further.
    The moon also stands for the lesser light that rules the night…Satan.

    Romans 13:12 >The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.

    1 Thessalonians 5:4 >But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

    5 >Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

    Besides the moon under her feet showing us she is off world in origin, it also shows her ascension over the wicked.

    If something is under your feet, it is vanquished…trampled…lesser.

    Just thought I'd mention it.

    Cheers.

    #331722
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 05 2013,12:45)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2013,20:24)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 30 2013,12:40)
    I'm on my 5th time through the OT right now…..


    Hi Mike,

    I suggest you read the “AKJV Bible” this time, it should help you to see.


    I'm reading the NET Bible this time – complete with every footnote.  In some chapters, there are over 100 of them.  Because of that, I am reading only one chapter per day.

    Maybe next time will be the KJV – but this one will take me a while.  :)


    Hi Mike,

    Do you even know the difference
    between the “AKJV Bible” and
    various KJV corruptions?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331723
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ Feb. 07 2013,01:39)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 05 2013,12:49)

    Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 29 2013,23:42)
    The sun means “light” (truth)


    Okay, that makes sense.

    What about the moon?


    Hi Mike,

    I wasn't going to bring this up, but….there is a duality at play here if we wish to analyse further.
    The moon also stands for the lesser light that rules the night…Satan.

    Romans 13:12 >The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.

    1 Thessalonians 5:4 >But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

    5 >Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

    Besides the moon under her feet showing us she is off world in origin, it also shows her ascension over the wicked.

    If something is under your feet, it is vanquished…trampled…lesser.

    Just thought I'd mention it.

    Cheers.


    Hi Devolution,

    That is the only logical interpretation!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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