Who is this Jesus?

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  • #813589
    terraricca
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    20)how could this be possible to have no sins and yet be a man ?

    Jn 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
    Jn 1:4 In him was life, and that life was the light of men.
    Jn 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

    many believe that Jesus the christ was just a illusion not a person that God his father brought down from heaven into the womb of a women to be cover by flesh ,and so pay the price for our sins

    Jn 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.

    Jesus had no sins for he was not born with it he was sinless in heaven and so came down pure to be that perfect sacrifice

    #813591
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    TERRARICCA. …you quote JOHN 20:17, one way ,then you quote it completey different. which is it did he say “return” as you believe or did he say “not yet assended”, see how you contort scriptures to meet your assumptions. forcing text to meet your understanding is part of your problem.

    Most all the stuff you listed we all have been through with you already Pierre. why should we play,here we go around the maberry tree again with you? you are not going to listen to anything any of us say. IF YOU WERE SERIOUSLY ASKING WITH AN OPEN MIND THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #813598
    Ed J
    Participant

    TERRARICCA. …you quote JOHN 20:17, one way ,then you quote it completey different. which is it did he say “return” as you believe or did he say “not yet assended”,

    Hi Gene,

    Thanks for pointing out to Pierre how the so-called ‘modern translations’ corrupt “The Word” of God!
    But our words no doubt are falling on deaf ears.

    “Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die.” (Prov 15:10)

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #813601
    terraricca
    Participant

    you both guys do really not understand scriptures and do not want to chanlenge me on the scriptures for you both know I am right ,

    you talk and talk ,and talk but are afraid to demonstrate your view in a concrete way for all to see ,?

    criticism in the dark

    #813605
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    It would be better for you to wait till you can hear the voice of the Spirit before you put these questions.

    Otherwise you will only be confused and think that a man lived in heaven.

    #813656
    terraricca
    Participant

    N

    I never said that a man lived in heaven why are you so incline of twisting things around in a deceiving way

    #813658
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    Sorry

    You said he wasn’t a man, wasn’t conceived and was a godly preexistent being?

    Was he born of a woman?

    jb 25

    #813663
    terraricca
    Participant

    Hi N

    scriptures says ;

    Phil 2:6 Who, being in very nature/form of God,
    did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
    Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing,
    taking the very nature of a servant,
    being made in human likeness.

    Phil 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man,
    he humbled himself
    and became obedient to death—
    even death on a cross!

    being made in human likeness
    Phil 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:AKJV

    was he a man ? before he was made in the likeness of men ? and was he really a man like us ?

    does really scriptures says that ? if he made himself nothing ;what was it he had what now he does not ?

    #813664
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    Scripture says he is a man.

    But you cannot align these words.

    guess who has to change.

    #813670
    terraricca
    Participant

    N

    it is obvious that it is you that have to change ,i showed you scriptures and you deny them ,

    #813671
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    No

    But align for us the scriptural truth of Acts 2.22 and 1 Tim 2.5

    #813675
    terraricca
    Participant

    Hi Nick

    Hi N

    scriptures says ;

    Phil 2:6 Who, being in very nature/form of God,
    did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
    Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing,
    taking the very nature of a servant,
    being made in human likeness.
    Phil 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man,
    he humbled himself
    and became obedient to death—
    even death on a cross!

    being made in human likeness
    Phil 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:AKJV

    was he a man ? before he was made in the likeness of men ? and was he really a man like us ?

    does really scriptures says that ? if he made himself nothing ;what was it he had what now he does not ?

    Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
    Col 1:17 He is before all things

    Jesus is before all things and by his creation and so by his closeness to the father and his God ,

    you seem not considering those many scriptures and so deny them ,see i cannot do what you do for me all has to be truth within the truth of God for God cannot lie

    #813676
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    Acts 2.22

    1 tim 2.5

    #813679
    terraricca
    Participant

    Hi N

    Ro 1:3 regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David,

    but so Paul knew about the other nature of Jesus Christ for he wrote ;
    Phil 2:6 Who, being in very nature/form of God,
    did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
    Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing,

    taking the very nature of a servant,
    being made in human likeness. since when is a man made in the likeness of a human ? unless he was something else prior to the event of being changed into that nature

    #813686
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    Normally you post the scriptures that we suggest.

    For some strange reason you have not done this with Acts 2.22 and 1 tim 2.5

    Very odd.

    #813690
    terraricca
    Participant

    Hi N

    you cannot ignoring the scriptures any of them would you ;strange enough you don’t answer my questions ,why would that be ? because you are not truthful enough to do so ?

    #813702
    terraricca
    Participant

    Hebrews 1:2
    but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.

    this scripture shows very clearly what Paul says about Jesus ;now how Jesus be part of the creation of the universe if he was not there,?

    #813703
    terraricca
    Participant

    N

    Hi t,

    Normally you post the scriptures that we suggest.

    For some strange reason you have not done this with Acts 2.22 and 1 tim 2.5

    Very odd.
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    I went and look at them and so show you the scriptures that you should consider at the same time of those you have quoted ,and then give me your understanding in stead of running away from it

    #813704
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    TERRARICCA. …..WHEN WAS JESUS IN THE “NATURE” OF GOD? where does say he was before he came into existence on this earth as you “assume”. IF YOU BELIEVE HE PREEXISTED his earth berth, THEN PRODUCE THE SCRIPTURES THAT SHOW HE PREEXISTED IT. What Paul was talking about was when he prexisted on this earth, before he asended to heaven from his earthly existence. Paul was not talking about any pre-earth existence, that is just an another attempt OF THE DECIEVED, to force the text to say what it IN FACT, does not say.

    WHY is it you only try to hold to scriptures, you can make say what in fact they do not “specifically ” say?, but when WE PRODUCE SCRIPTURES that shows differently, YOU JUST IGNORE THEM AS IF THEY WERE NOT EVEN IN YOUR BIBLES.

    THIS shows you are not interested in the truth, but only your own conceptions of what the truth is, show us “ONE” SCRIPTURE that “SPECIFICALLY” says JESUS PREEXISTED HIS BERTH ON THIS EARTH, if you can, then you would have something, we could listen to. BUT YOU CAN’T BECAUSE NON EXISTS.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #813706
    terraricca
    Participant

    Gene

    it quit useless to talk to you for you cannot read

    Hebrews 1:2
    but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.

    the bold ;was that than while he was i Jerusalem ?

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