Who is the creator of all things?

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2012,17:48)

Hi MB,
Your avatar reflects your approach or the scriptural references?

Ad hominems again, Nick?

You are the one who brought up the scripture, and two posts later, as I'm discussing the scripture YOU brought up, you ask me which scripture I'm talking about?

Ps 2 – the one YOU brought up. At the time that psalm was written, Jesus was already the begotten Son of God.

Show me from scripture that I'm wrong.

February 24, 2012 at 2:27 am#280246

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 24 2012,18:29)

Hi T,
Why do you think his knowledge is proof of God's Spirit living in him?
Plenty of folk know stuff without that blessing.

read;

Lk 1:28 The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.”
Lk 1:29 Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be.
Lk 1:30 But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God.
Lk 1:31 You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus.
Lk 1:32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David,
Lk 1:33 and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever; his kingdom will never end.”
Lk 1:34 “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”
Lk 1:35 The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.

look what it says ;THE HOLY ONE TO BE BORN WILL BE CALLED “THE SON OF GOD”

CHRIST HIS BORN HOLY , SEE lk 1;35

February 24, 2012 at 2:28 am#280247

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Hi MB,
He was begotten from above of the Spirit.
At his baptism God said so.
So are we.

1Peter 1.3f
Acts 13.33

February 24, 2012 at 2:38 am#280250

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 24 2012,19:28)

Hi MB,
He was begotten from above of the Spirit.
At his baptism God said so.
So are we.

1Peter 1.3f
Acts 13.33

I have a question when was the Man Jesus begotten from God and so became “the son of man “the prophet greater than Moses ?

and when was Christ the “WORD” begotten as the son of God,?

February 24, 2012 at 2:40 am#280251

Lightenup

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God never said at His baptism that He was begotten on that day Nick.

February 24, 2012 at 2:44 am#280252

Lightenup

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When looking at this passage in Heb 1:5
For to which of the angels did He ever say,
“YOU ARE MY SON,
TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU”?
And again,
“I WILL BE A FATHER TO HIM
AND HE SHALL BE A SON TO ME”?

I see two separate situations. I believe God said, “Today I have begotten you” before creation…and then, I believe God said “I will be a Father to Him and He shall be a Son to me” before the incarnation in reference to the Son of Man.

Kathi

February 24, 2012 at 2:44 am#280253

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Hi T,
He was conceived the son of man-of Mary

When he was anointed by God he became THE Son of God and assumed many roles.

“Thou art My beloved SON, in thee I am well pleased”
Lk3.22

February 24, 2012 at 3:10 am#280256

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 24 2012,19:44)

Hi T,
He was conceived the son of man-of Mary

When he was anointed by God he became THE Son of God and assumed many roles.

“Thou art My beloved SON, in thee I am well pleased”
Lk3.22

look what it says ;THE HOLY ONE TO BE BORN WILL BE CALLED “THE SON OF GOD”

CHRIST HIS BORN HOLY , SEE lk 1;35

“Thou art My beloved SON, in thee I am well pleased”
Lk3.22

WAS JESUS THE SON OF GOD PRIOR TO HIS BAPTISM

February 24, 2012 at 3:27 am#280259

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Hi T,
Yes God was his Father so like Adam he was a son of God.
The the biblical predictions about THE Son of God relate to actions after his anointing.

February 24, 2012 at 4:40 am#280273

david

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2012,11:46)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2012,17:48)

Hi MB,
Your avatar reflects your approach or the scriptural references?

Ad hominems again, Nick?

You are the one who brought up the scripture, and two posts later, as I'm discussing the scripture YOU brought up, you ask me which scripture I'm talking about?

Ps 2 – the one YOU brought up. At the time that psalm was written, Jesus was already the begotten Son of God.

Show me from scripture that I'm wrong.

If you look in the book of ax, you will see that ad homonyms aren't cool. But that said, I have never understood why some over the years have chosen the wolf, given how it is sometimes portrayed in scripture.

February 24, 2012 at 4:43 am#280274

david

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With 50% so far voting “other”, I think you should expand your list.

Perhaps include: God, by means of his holy spirit, through his son, who he himself created.

February 24, 2012 at 4:48 am#280275

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 24 2012,20:27)

Hi T,
Yes God was his Father so like Adam he was a son of God.
The the biblical predictions about THE Son of God relate to actions after his anointing.

but it does not say what you say,

it says;ook what it says ;THE HOLY ONE TO BE BORN WILL BE CALLED “THE SON OF GOD”
this means wen he his born Not wen he is anointed,

Christ as been called the SON of God after his dead the son of God more often than there is people on earth,but the question is not their ,was he the son of God at birth ?????

February 24, 2012 at 5:06 am#280281

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Hi T,
He was no different to you and I till the Jordan.
He became there THE Son of God.

February 25, 2012 at 2:12 am#280419

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2012,19:28)

Hi MB,
He was begotten from above of the Spirit.
At his baptism God said so.
So are we.

1Peter 1.3f
Acts 13.33

Nick,

I said: Show me FROM SCRIPTURE that Jesus wasn't already begotten by God at the time Ps 2 was written.

Are you able to do this? Showing me that Jesus was later born of Mary doesn't erase the fact that his origins were from ancient times. Or that all things in heaven and on earth were created through him. Or that he himself said he came down from heaven. Or that he was already existing in the form of God BEFORE being made into the likeness of a human being. Etc, etc, etc…………….

Btw, God didn't say, “This man has JUST NOW BECOME my Son” at Jesus' baptism. He merely pointed out that Jesus WAS His Son – He didn't offer any information as to how long he had BEEN His Son. So don't add to scripture.

February 25, 2012 at 2:13 am#280420

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2012,22:06)

Hi T,
He was no different to you and I till the Jordan.

Yes, because naturally, we are ALL born of virgin women and have been fathered directly by God through His Holy Spirit.

February 25, 2012 at 2:28 am#280424

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 25 2012,19:13)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2012,22:06)

Hi T,
He was no different to you and I till the Jordan.

Yes, because naturally, we are ALL born of virgin women and have been fathered directly by God through His Holy Spirit.

Mike

Nick is born like Christ out of a virgin and is born trough the intervention of the holy spirit,

it shows how much those believers take in and out of scriptures

February 25, 2012 at 4:07 am#280442

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Hi MB and T,
Do you not agree with scripture that Jesus was a man?

February 25, 2012 at 4:08 am#280443

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Hi T,
Do you really think what is prophesied has already happened when it is written??

February 25, 2012 at 4:54 am#280447

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 25 2012,12:12)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2012,19:28)

Hi MB,
He was begotten from above of the Spirit.
At his baptism God said so.
So are we.

1Peter 1.3f
Acts 13.33

Nick,

I said: Show me FROM SCRIPTURE that Jesus wasn't already begotten by God at the time Ps 2 was written.

Hi MB,
Scripture does not teach much about what isn't true.
Your burden is to prove what you say is true.

February 25, 2012 at 1:04 pm#280502