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The book of Enoch has been accepted by the apostles.
Why should we not?
Enoch played a great role in knowledge; we should also learn
the book of Enoch if we want deeper understanding of what happened before the flood;and also of the end times.This depends on the hungry spirit to know all things.
Enoch informed us of the things before the flood,and of things in the end times.He spoke of the falling away and of the anti Christ.
He also gave detailed knowledge of what happened in Eden.
And the bondage in Egypt.This is in parables.He was seventh from Adam, taken up for a purpose.
And that is to witness things of the old world.The spirit in some are hungry enough wanting to know all things;some are not.
Some even, are not hungry enough to know the prophesies.
The gospels alone will do them.I say Enoch is the first prophet;God has revealed him all things. From beginning to end. He even saw the Word of God. He called him the annointed one.
It is all up to how hungry ones spirit is.
Some want to know all things;some not.wakeup.
Agreed.
I have read Book I, and Kerwin has just given me a link to Book II.
I look forward to reading that one as well.
I am more careful in my acceptance ;we may not conclude that the book of Enoch was accepted by the apostles base on the fact that there are a few quotes mention ,
I do believe what scriptures says about him ,and it make sens within all of the scriptures without have to consult the books so called Enoch 1 and 2
and in my understanding it is not the hungry spirit that should lead us but the search of the TRUTH IN GOD through his spirit of truth , that's the way I go ,
Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2014,05:16) I am more careful in my acceptance ;we may not conclude that the book of Enoch was accepted by the apostles base on the fact that there are a few quotes mention , I do believe what scriptures says about him ,and it make sens within all of the scriptures without have to consult the books so called Enoch 1 and 2
and in my understanding it is not the hungry spirit that should lead us but the search of the TRUTH IN GOD through his spirit of truth , that's the way I go ,
If you are truly hungry enough, you will want to know all things of God.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 15 2014,15:40) If you are truly hungry enough, you will want to know all things of God. wakeup.
I agree with the idea of this thread, Wakeup. But to be honest, it surprises me that YOU are the one who created it.I was under the impression that the KJV translation was the ONLY thing you ever considered when it came to scriptural matters.
And for to suggest that we should at least take a look at the Enoch books, while you refuse to even consider the Hebrew and Greek words of scripture, or any English translation of those scriptures that is different from the KJV, seems a little hypocritical, IMO. Because those of us who are TRULY hungry won't stop at just Enoch. We also want to know every Hebrew and Greek word that was translated into English – and what those words really meant. In that way, we are not CONFINED to the “preference” of this translator, or that translator.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2014,03:40) Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2014,05:16) I am more careful in my acceptance ;we may not conclude that the book of Enoch was accepted by the apostles base on the fact that there are a few quotes mention , I do believe what scriptures says about him ,and it make sens within all of the scriptures without have to consult the books so called Enoch 1 and 2
and in my understanding it is not the hungry spirit that should lead us but the search of the TRUTH IN GOD through his spirit of truth , that's the way I go ,
If you are truly hungry enough, you will want to know all things of God.wakeup.
WUPIN MY 73 YEARS i HAVE EATEN LOST OF JUNK FOOD AND IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO GET RID OF THE HABIT AND THE CRAVING ; NOT ALL KNOWLEDGE EDIFICE
UNDERSTAND THAT THE PHARISEES ALSO HAD THEIR OWN JUNK THAT THEY FED THE PEOPLE ,(TRADITION) EVEN THE APOSTLES HAD TO GET RID OF THAT KNOWLEDGE ,
pAUL IS A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR IT
My position on Enoch is, I will use it to add clarification on items brought out in scripture, I may even consider using some items from it if aligned with scripture to establish doctrine, but never establish doctrine in conflict to scripture.
My opinion – Wm
The book of Enoch is inspirired by the same
Holy Spirit as of the Holy bible.
It's only that Enoch is more about the old world,
in detail.With enough knowledge one should be able to
decern the good food from the junk food.wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2014,10:03) Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2014,03:40) Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2014,05:16) I am more careful in my acceptance ;we may not conclude that the book of Enoch was accepted by the apostles base on the fact that there are a few quotes mention , I do believe what scriptures says about him ,and it make sens within all of the scriptures without have to consult the books so called Enoch 1 and 2
and in my understanding it is not the hungry spirit that should lead us but the search of the TRUTH IN GOD through his spirit of truth , that's the way I go ,
If you are truly hungry enough, you will want to know all things of God.wakeup.
WUPIN MY 73 YEARS i HAVE EATEN LOST OF JUNK FOOD AND IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO GET RID OF THE HABIT AND THE CRAVING ; NOT ALL KNOWLEDGE EDIFICE
UNDERSTAND THAT THE PHARISEES ALSO HAD THEIR OWN JUNK THAT THEY FED THE PEOPLE ,(TRADITION) EVEN THE APOSTLES HAD TO GET RID OF THAT KNOWLEDGE ,
pAUL IS A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR IT
T.One should not judge the book of Enoch,
as junk food.
Because it is inspired by the same Holy Siprit.
The Holy Spirit of the Holy Bible.wakeup.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 16 2014,08:56) Quote (Wakeup @ June 15 2014,15:40) If you are truly hungry enough, you will want to know all things of God. wakeup.
I agree with the idea of this thread, Wakeup. But to be honest, it surprises me that YOU are the one who created it.I was under the impression that the KJV translation was the ONLY thing you ever considered when it came to scriptural matters.
And for to suggest that we should at least take a look at the Enoch books, while you refuse to even consider the Hebrew and Greek words of scripture, or any English translation of those scriptures that is different from the KJV, seems a little hypocritical, IMO. Because those of us who are TRULY hungry won't stop at just Enoch. We also want to know every Hebrew and Greek word that was translated into English – and what those words really meant. In that way, we are not CONFINED to the “preference” of this translator, or that translator.
Mike B.The flesh of Christ does not contain in many,many books.
The flesh of Christ is the spirit in the words spoken in the bible. And the book of Enoch has that same spirit.
They are in total harmony.Reading other *spiritual* books only causes confusion and ever learning; and never finding.
I am not being hypocritical for excepting the book of Enoch.
It is inspired by the same Holy spirit as the Holy bible.I am not going awhoring around.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2014,08:59) The book of Enoch is inspirired by the same
Holy Spirit as of the Holy bible.
It's only that Enoch is more about the old world,
in detail.With enough knowledge one should be able to
decern the good food from the junk food.wakeup.
wakeupQuote The book of Enoch is inspired by the same
Holy Spirit as of the Holy bible.show me a scripture that says that
and also quote me of what version you are referring to
the fact that you like it does not make it the truth,
and you are not the spirit of truth that god send out to those he love and that love him
Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2014,15:51) Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2014,08:59) The book of Enoch is inspirired by the same
Holy Spirit as of the Holy bible.
It's only that Enoch is more about the old world,
in detail.With enough knowledge one should be able to
decern the good food from the junk food.wakeup.
wakeupQuote The book of Enoch is inspired by the same
Holy Spirit as of the Holy bible.show me a scripture that says that
and also quote me of what version you are referring to
the fact that you like it does not make it the truth,
and you are not the spirit of truth that god send out to those he love and that love him
The apostles accepted the book of Enoch
as inspired by the same Spirit, or they would not have quoted His words.
And that is good enough for me.
You seem to disagree with the apostles.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2014,11:38) Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2014,15:51) Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2014,08:59) The book of Enoch is inspirired by the same
Holy Spirit as of the Holy bible.
It's only that Enoch is more about the old world,
in detail.With enough knowledge one should be able to
decern the good food from the junk food.wakeup.
wakeupQuote The book of Enoch is inspired by the same
Holy Spirit as of the Holy bible.show me a scripture that says that
and also quote me of what version you are referring to
the fact that you like it does not make it the truth,
and you are not the spirit of truth that god send out to those he love and that love him
The apostles accepted the book of Enoch
as inspired by the same Spirit, or they would not have quoted His words.
And that is good enough for me.
You seem to disagree with the apostles.wakeup.
WQuote The apostles accepted the book of Enoch by your standards
show me that it is written ,no need for your advice ,truth will do ,
Quote (terraricca @ June 17 2014,01:18) Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2014,11:38) Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2014,15:51) Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2014,08:59) The book of Enoch is inspirired by the same
Holy Spirit as of the Holy bible.
It's only that Enoch is more about the old world,
in detail.With enough knowledge one should be able to
decern the good food from the junk food.wakeup.
wakeupQuote The book of Enoch is inspired by the same
Holy Spirit as of the Holy bible.show me a scripture that says that
and also quote me of what version you are referring to
the fact that you like it does not make it the truth,
and you are not the spirit of truth that god send out to those he love and that love him
The apostles accepted the book of Enoch
as inspired by the same Spirit, or they would not have quoted His words.
And that is good enough for me.
You seem to disagree with the apostles.wakeup.
WQuote The apostles accepted the book of Enoch by your standards
show me that it is written ,no need for your advice ,truth will do ,
TWould scriptures *I post* make any difference to you?
After all, it is all my own opinion,not the apostles.
My own standards; so dont worry about it.Luke 3:37 Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan,
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,01:57) Quote (terraricca @ June 17 2014,01:18) Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2014,11:38) Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2014,15:51) Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2014,08:59) The book of Enoch is inspirired by the same
Holy Spirit as of the Holy bible.
It's only that Enoch is more about the old world,
in detail.With enough knowledge one should be able to
decern the good food from the junk food.wakeup.
wakeupQuote The book of Enoch is inspired by the same
Holy Spirit as of the Holy bible.show me a scripture that says that
and also quote me of what version you are referring to
the fact that you like it does not make it the truth,
and you are not the spirit of truth that god send out to those he love and that love him
The apostles accepted the book of Enoch
as inspired by the same Spirit, or they would not have quoted His words.
And that is good enough for me.
You seem to disagree with the apostles.wakeup.
WQuote The apostles accepted the book of Enoch by your standards
show me that it is written ,no need for your advice ,truth will do ,
TWould scriptures *I post* make any difference to you?
After all, it is all my own opinion,not the apostles.
My own standards; so dont worry about it.Luke 3:37 Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan,
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
wakeup.
wakeupnot only you support what you do not know but you are confused in which Enoch you are talking about ,
there are two Enoch 1) from the line of Cain and 2) the one from the line of Seth
of cause the one that is spoken of in scriptures by the apostles is the one from the line of SETH ;Gen 5;
this is why it says : ” the seventh from Adam ;
bla,bla does not cut it ;truth will
Quote (terraricca @ June 17 2014,07:13) Quote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,01:57) Quote (terraricca @ June 17 2014,01:18) Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2014,11:38) Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2014,15:51) Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2014,08:59) The book of Enoch is inspirired by the same
Holy Spirit as of the Holy bible.
It's only that Enoch is more about the old world,
in detail.With enough knowledge one should be able to
decern the good food from the junk food.wakeup.
wakeupQuote The book of Enoch is inspired by the same
Holy Spirit as of the Holy bible.show me a scripture that says that
and also quote me of what version you are referring to
the fact that you like it does not make it the truth,
and you are not the spirit of truth that god send out to those he love and that love him
The apostles accepted the book of Enoch
as inspired by the same Spirit, or they would not have quoted His words.
And that is good enough for me.
You seem to disagree with the apostles.wakeup.
WQuote The apostles accepted the book of Enoch by your standards
show me that it is written ,no need for your advice ,truth will do ,
TWould scriptures *I post* make any difference to you?
After all, it is all my own opinion,not the apostles.
My own standards; so dont worry about it.Luke 3:37 Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan,
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
wakeup.
wakeupnot only you support what you do not know but you are confused in which Enoch you are talking about ,
there are two Enoch 1) from the line of Cain and 2) the one from the line of Seth
of cause the one that is spoken of in scriptures by the apostles is the one from the line of SETH ;Gen 5;
this is why it says : ” the seventh from Adam ;
bla,bla does not cut it ;truth will
Work it out for your self;if it is possible
with your stony heart.Genesis 5:18 And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:
Genesis 5:19 And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
Genesis 5:21 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
Genesis 5:22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
Genesis 5:23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
wakeup.
Quote (seekingtruth @ June 15 2014,18:48) My position on Enoch is, I will use it to add clarification on items brought out in scripture, I may even consider using some items from it if aligned with scripture to establish doctrine, but never establish doctrine in conflict to scripture. My opinion – Wm
Wm,I was going to post the same basic thing yesterday…… but I couldn't have worded it as well.
You have clearly explained exactly how I would also use Enoch.
W
Quote Work it out for your self;if it is possible
with your stony heart.
BUT THEIR IS ANOTHER ENOCH MAY BE THE BOOKS ARE FROM HIM 
For example, Wm………..
Kerwin and I have looked to Enoch for help in our disagreements about Paul's meaning of “spiritual bodies” in 1 Cor 15, and about who the phrase “sons of God” referred to in Gen 1:6.
The words in Enoch clearly supported my (and the majority) understanding of both of those Biblical teachings. So in that way, I was able to use Enoch as a further support to my interpretation of scripture, because, at the very least, WHOEVER wrote the Book of Enoch understood those two Biblical passages the same way I (and the majority) understand them.
On the other hand, Kerwin used Enoch to show me about 10 different heavens. I can't see where 10 heavens directly contradicts any particular scripture – but in this case, I don't think I'd necessarily build a “10 Heaven Doctrine” around it.
Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2014,08:18) Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2014,11:38) The apostles accepted the book of Enoch by your standards
show me that it is written ,no need for your advice ,truth will do ,
Pierre,From here:
Jesus’ own half-brother Jude quotes from the Book of Enoch saying:
Jude 1:14-15 (NIV Bible)
Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodlysinners have spoken against him.”First of all, while the Book of Enoch is quoted (specifically 1Enoch 1:9), Jude attributes his quote not to the Book of Enoch, but to the man Enoch (Enoch, seventh from Adam).
Since we have copies of the Book of Enoch which predate the Book of Jude, this quote tells us that Enoch seventh from Adam wrote the Book of Enoch.
Secondly, Jude uses the word “prophecy.” Jude tells us that this quote from Enoch, which comes from the Book of Enoch, is prophecy.
That is a very important statement. Regarding prophecy, Peter writes:
2 Peter 1:20-21 (NIV Bible)
Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation.For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
So if, as Jude tells us, the Book of Enoch is “prophecy,” then Peter tells us that it was inspired by the Holy Spirit.
Pretty clever, if you ask me.
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