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Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,08:36) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,04:45) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:31) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,07:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16) kerwin wakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup
T.Is that not commonsense?
The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.
What say you?wakeup
Wakeup,There is nothing about evaporation.
Genesis 1:9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
The waters were gathered together not evaporated. One way they could have been gathered together is if the land rose above and displaced the water. It is called dry land so it was dried in some manner. I speculate that some kind of evaporation occurred.
Kerwin.Why could you not see this?
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, ***and let it DIVIDE the waters FROM the waters***. (EVAPORATION).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament,
***and *divided the waters* which were *under* the firmament,
from the waters which were *above* the firmament***: and it was so. (THIS IS SPEAKING OF DIVIDING THE WATERS TO CLOUDS).wakeup.
Wakeup.Evaporation makes water vapor not air. There is also vacuum as space is above the air. I am not sure where the water above is though perhaps it is the clouds. Clouds are water vapor and droplets but they are not above the air. They are high up in it though. God just made air so he could make water droplets and vapor as well.
Kerwin.You interpret the scriptures to your own desire.
You dont follow a straight line.
You are going all over the place to interpret scriptures.
Fitting in the pieces according to the picture in your
mind,and creating your own pieces to make it fit.You end up with a picture that looks like babel.
Just crisscross lines and blots of paint on top another.
Something like abstract art,that is not a clear picture.You have a problem.
Wakeup,I am following Scriptures exactly. I am not claiming that water vapor was created by evaporation that itself was caused by light from the sun but you are. I agree God made water vapor in the form of clouds and that the clouds may well be the water above. I agree God made air and the vacuum above. This discussion is good for gaining and testing understanding if handled correctly. You were doing fine. Can you discipline yourself and continue to seek understanding.
Kerwin.The earth was a ball of water on the surface of the earth.
Where does the couds come from?wakeup.
Wakeup,The earth was a ball of water with no atmosphere. At this time liquid does not exist in a vacuum. It turns to gas or water vapor. That water vapor itself would be an atmosphere and perhaps prevent the water beneath it from turning to vapor. This is assuming had already the laws required for those things to occur. I doubt he did at that time though he may well have done so on the second Night and Day of time.
Wakeup,?
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 03 2014,06:54) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,08:36) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,04:45) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:31) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,07:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16) kerwin wakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup
T.Is that not commonsense?
The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.
What say you?wakeup
Wakeup,There is nothing about evaporation.
Genesis 1:9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
The waters were gathered together not evaporated. One way they could have been gathered together is if the land rose above and displaced the water. It is called dry land so it was dried in some manner. I speculate that some kind of evaporation occurred.
Kerwin.Why could you not see this?
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, ***and let it DIVIDE the waters FROM the waters***. (EVAPORATION).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament,
***and *divided the waters* which were *under* the firmament,
from the waters which were *above* the firmament***: and it was so. (THIS IS SPEAKING OF DIVIDING THE WATERS TO CLOUDS).wakeup.
Wakeup.Evaporation makes water vapor not air. There is also vacuum as space is above the air. I am not sure where the water above is though perhaps it is the clouds. Clouds are water vapor and droplets but they are not above the air. They are high up in it though. God just made air so he could make water droplets and vapor as well.
Kerwin.You interpret the scriptures to your own desire.
You dont follow a straight line.
You are going all over the place to interpret scriptures.
Fitting in the pieces according to the picture in your
mind,and creating your own pieces to make it fit.You end up with a picture that looks like babel.
Just crisscross lines and blots of paint on top another.
Something like abstract art,that is not a clear picture.You have a problem.
Wakeup,I am following Scriptures exactly. I am not claiming that water vapor was created by evaporation that itself was caused by light from the sun but you are. I agree God made water vapor in the form of clouds and that the clouds may well be the water above. I agree God made air and the vacuum above. This discussion is good for gaining and testing understanding if handled correctly. You were doing fine. Can you discipline yourself and continue to seek understanding.
Kerwin.The earth was a ball of water on the surface of the earth.
Where does the couds come from?wakeup.
Wakeup,The earth was a ball of water with no atmosphere. At this time liquid does not exist in a vacuum. It turns to gas or water vapor. That water vapor itself would be an atmosphere and perhaps prevent the water beneath it from turning to vapor. This is assuming had already the laws required for those things to occur. I doubt he did at that time though he may well have done so on the second Night and Day of time.
Wakeup,?
Kerwin.You let science explain how God created all things from nothing. You let science explain where God comes from.
You let science explain how the Word was made flesh.
You let science explain how angels are made.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,02:40) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 03 2014,06:54) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,08:36) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,04:45) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:31) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,07:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16) kerwin wakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup
T.Is that not commonsense?
The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.
What say you?wakeup
Wakeup,There is nothing about evaporation.
Genesis 1:9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
The waters were gathered together not evaporated. One way they could have been gathered together is if the land rose above and displaced the water. It is called dry land so it was dried in some manner. I speculate that some kind of evaporation occurred.
Kerwin.Why could you not see this?
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, ***and let it DIVIDE the waters FROM the waters***. (EVAPORATION).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament,
***and *divided the waters* which were *under* the firmament,
from the waters which were *above* the firmament***: and it was so. (THIS IS SPEAKING OF DIVIDING THE WATERS TO CLOUDS).wakeup.
Wakeup.Evaporation makes water vapor not air. There is also vacuum as space is above the air. I am not sure where the water above is though perhaps it is the clouds. Clouds are water vapor and droplets but they are not above the air. They are high up in it though. God just made air so he could make water droplets and vapor as well.
Kerwin.You interpret the scriptures to your own desire.
You dont follow a straight line.
You are going all over the place to interpret scriptures.
Fitting in the pieces according to the picture in your
mind,and creating your own pieces to make it fit.You end up with a picture that looks like babel.
Just crisscross lines and blots of paint on top another.
Something like abstract art,that is not a clear picture.You have a problem.
Wakeup,I am following Scriptures exactly. I am not claiming that water vapor was created by evaporation that itself was caused by light from the sun but you are. I agree God made water vapor in the form of clouds and that the clouds may well be the water above. I agree God made air and the vacuum above. This discussion is good for gaining and testing understanding if handled correctly. You were doing fine. Can you discipline yourself and continue to seek understanding.
Kerwin.The earth was a ball of water on the surface of the earth.
Where does the couds come from?wakeup.
Wakeup,The earth was a ball of water with no atmosphere. At this time liquid does not exist in a vacuum. It turns to gas or water vapor. That water vapor itself would be an atmosphere and perhaps prevent the water beneath it from turning to vapor. This is assuming had already the laws required for those things to occur. I doubt he did at that time though he may well have done so on the second Night and Day of time.
Wakeup,?
Kerwin.You let science explain how God created all things from nothing. You let science explain where God comes from.
You let science explain how the Word was made flesh.
You let science explain how angels are made.wakeup.
Wakeup,You are the one who claimed that water was evaporated by sunlight not me.
I told you what would happen under the current conditions if the laws allowing for them were even set by God at that time. God is the lawmaker.
I don't know if the vacuum of space existed prior to the second Night and Day much less the law that allowed water to be evaporated.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 03 2014,09:29) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,02:40) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 03 2014,06:54) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,08:36) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,04:45) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:31) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,07:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16) kerwin wakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup
T.Is that not commonsense?
The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.
What say you?wakeup
Wakeup,There is nothing about evaporation.
Genesis 1:9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
The waters were gathered together not evaporated. One way they could have been gathered together is if the land rose above and displaced the water. It is called dry land so it was dried in some manner. I speculate that some kind of evaporation occurred.
Kerwin.Why could you not see this?
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, ***and let it DIVIDE the waters FROM the waters***. (EVAPORATION).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament,
***and *divided the waters* which were *under* the firmament,
from the waters which were *above* the firmament***: and it was so. (THIS IS SPEAKING OF DIVIDING THE WATERS TO CLOUDS).wakeup.
Wakeup.Evaporation makes water vapor not air. There is also vacuum as space is above the air. I am not sure where the water above is though perhaps it is the clouds. Clouds are water vapor and droplets but they are not above the air. They are high up in it though. God just made air so he could make water droplets and vapor as well.
Kerwin.You interpret the scriptures to your own desire.
You dont follow a straight line.
You are going all over the place to interpret scriptures.
Fitting in the pieces according to the picture in your
mind,and creating your own pieces to make it fit.You end up with a picture that looks like babel.
Just crisscross lines and blots of paint on top another.
Something like abstract art,that is not a clear picture.You have a problem.
Wakeup,I am following Scriptures exactly. I am not claiming that water vapor was created by evaporation that itself was caused by light from the sun but you are. I agree God made water vapor in the form of clouds and that the clouds may well be the water above. I agree God made air and the vacuum above. This discussion is good for gaining and testing understanding if handled correctly. You were doing fine. Can you discipline yourself and continue to seek understanding.
Kerwin.The earth was a ball of water on the surface of the earth.
Where does the couds come from?wakeup.
Wakeup,The earth was a ball of water with no atmosphere. At this time liquid does not exist in a vacuum. It turns to gas or water vapor. That water vapor itself would be an atmosphere and perhaps prevent the water beneath it from turning to vapor. This is assuming had already the laws required for those things to occur. I doubt he did at that time though he may well have done so on the second Night and Day of time.
Wakeup,?
Kerwin.You let science explain how God created all things from nothing. You let science explain where God comes from.
You let science explain how the Word was made flesh.
You let science explain how angels are made.wakeup.
Wakeup,You are the one who claimed that water was evaporated by sunlight not me.
I told you what would happen under the current conditions if the laws allowing for them were even set by God at that time. God is the lawmaker.
I don't know if the vacuum of space existed prior to the second Night and Day much less the law that allowed water to be evaporated.
Kerwin.Is there a vacuum on earth,or above the earth?
Does the earth not have its own gravity?
We are speaking of the earth here,not space.Put aside those books.
wakeup.
Quote (tigger2 @ Dec. 31 2013,13:53) Quote (mikeboll @ 64) Have you written anything at all about the pre-existence of Christ? I just took it as a given, and didn’t feel the necessity to examine it.
Until I came to this site, I never knew there was such a thing as a person who didn't believe Christ pre-existed.My mind had never even comprehended such a thing, since the scriptures are so clear that Jesus did pre-exist his time as flesh.
Quote (tigger2 @ Dec. 31 2013,13:53) I have an incomplete ‘Michael’ study on my computer that I started but tired out before I completed it. It lists a number of earlier Christians from various denominations who believed Christ to be Michael. I haven't been especially interested in that particular subject and prefer to concentrate on more important matters (like knowing the God we must worship in truth).
Okay. Thanks.Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,16:52) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 03 2014,09:29) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,02:40) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 03 2014,06:54) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,08:36) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,04:45) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:31) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,07:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16) kerwin wakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup
T.Is that not commonsense?
The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.
What say you?wakeup
Wakeup,There is nothing about evaporation.
Genesis 1:9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
The waters were gathered together not evaporated. One way they could have been gathered together is if the land rose above and displaced the water. It is called dry land so it was dried in some manner. I speculate that some kind of evaporation occurred.
Kerwin.Why could you not see this?
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, ***and let it DIVIDE the waters FROM the waters***. (EVAPORATION).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament,
***and *divided the waters* which were *under* the firmament,
from the waters which were *above* the firmament***: and it was so. (THIS IS SPEAKING OF DIVIDING THE WATERS TO CLOUDS).wakeup.
Wakeup.Evaporation makes water vapor not air. There is also vacuum as space is above the air. I am not sure where the water above is though perhaps it is the clouds. Clouds are water vapor and droplets but they are not above the air. They are high up in it though. God just made air so he could make water droplets and vapor as well.
Kerwin.You interpret the scriptures to your own desire.
You dont follow a straight line.
You are going all over the place to interpret scriptures.
Fitting in the pieces according to the picture in your
mind,and creating your own pieces to make it fit.You end up with a picture that looks like babel.
Just crisscross lines and blots of paint on top another.
Something like abstract art,that is not a clear picture.You have a problem.
Wakeup,I am following Scriptures exactly. I am not claiming that water vapor was created by evaporation that itself was caused by light from the sun but you are. I agree God made water vapor in the form of clouds and that the clouds may well be the water above. I agree God made air and the vacuum above. This discussion is good for gaining and testing understanding if handled correctly. You were doing fine. Can you discipline yourself and continue to seek understanding.
Kerwin.The earth was a ball of water on the surface of the earth.
Where does the couds come from?wakeup.
Wakeup,The earth was a ball of water with no atmosphere. At this time liquid does not exist in a vacuum. It turns to gas or water vapor. That water vapor itself would be an atmosphere and perhaps prevent the water beneath it from turning to vapor. This is assuming had already the laws required for those things to occur. I doubt he did at that time though he may well have done so on the second Night and Day of time.
Wakeup,?
Kerwin.You let science explain how God created all things from nothing. You let science explain where God comes from.
You let science explain how the Word was made flesh.
You let science explain how angels are made.wakeup.
Wakeup,You are the one who claimed that water was evaporated by sunlight not me.
I told you what would happen under the current conditions if the laws allowing for them were even set by God at that time. God is the lawmaker.
I don't know if the vacuum of space existed prior to the second Night and Day much less the law that allowed water to be evaporated.
Kerwin.Is there a vacuum on earth,or above the earth?
Does the earth not have its own gravity?
We are speaking of the earth here,not space.Put aside those books.
wakeup.
Wakeup,God established the law of gravity and created the medium of space in which vacuum exists. Neither of these is mentioned in the creation story. God is not divorced from the laws of science, he is the law maker. Men attempt to discover those laws using the scientific method and other mea
ns. I am not speaking if those attempts but I am speaking of what I know and do not know of God setting those laws.The way the creation even is written heaven is composed of both the atmosphere of earth and the vacuum of space and it was not created until the Second Night and Day.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 04 2014,09:01) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,16:52) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 03 2014,09:29) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,02:40) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 03 2014,06:54) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,08:36) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,04:45) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:31) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,07:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16) kerwin wakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup
T.Is that not commonsense?
The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.
What say you?wakeup
Wakeup,There is nothing about evaporation.
Genesis 1:9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
The waters were gathered together not evaporated. One way they could have been gathered together is if the land rose above and displaced the water. It is called dry land so it was dried in some manner. I speculate that some kind of evaporation occurred.
Kerwin.Why could you not see this?
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, ***and let it DIVIDE the waters FROM the waters***. (EVAPORATION).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament,
***and *divided the waters* which were *under* the firmament,
from the waters which were *above* the firmament***: and it was so. (THIS IS SPEAKING OF DIVIDING THE WATERS TO CLOUDS).wakeup.
Wakeup.Evaporation makes water vapor not air. There is also vacuum as space is above the air. I am not sure where the water above is though perhaps it is the clouds. Clouds are water vapor and droplets but they are not above the air. They are high up in it though. God just made air so he could make water droplets and vapor as well.
Kerwin.You interpret the scriptures to your own desire.
You dont follow a straight line.
You are going all over the place to interpret scriptures.
Fitting in the pieces according to the picture in your
mind,and creating your own pieces to make it fit.You end up with a picture that looks like babel.
Just crisscross lines and blots of paint on top another.
Something like abstract art,that is not a clear picture.You have a problem.
Wakeup,I am following Scriptures exactly. I am not claiming that water vapor was created by evaporation that itself was caused by light from the sun but you are. I agree God made water vapor in the form of clouds and that the clouds may well be the water above. I agree God made air and the vacuum above. This discussion is good for gaining and testing understanding if handled correctly. You were doing fine. Can you discipline yourself and continue to seek understanding.
Kerwin.The earth was a ball of water on the surface of the earth.
Where does the couds come from?wakeup.
Wakeup,The earth was a ball of water with no atmosphere. At this time liquid does not exist in a vacuum. It turns to gas or water vapor. That water vapor itself would be an atmosphere and perhaps prevent the water beneath it from turning to vapor. This is assuming had already the laws required for those things to occur. I doubt he did at that time though he may well have done so on the second Night and Day of time.
Wakeup,?
Kerwin.You let science explain how God created all things from nothing. You let science explain where God comes from.
You let science explain how the Word was made flesh.
You let science explain how angels are made.wakeup.
Wakeup,You are the one who claimed that water was evaporated by sunlight not me.
I told you what would happen under the current conditions if the laws allowing for them were even set by God at that time. God is the lawmaker.
I don't know if the vacuum of space existed prior to the second Night and Day much less the law that allowed water to be evaporated.
Kerwin.Is there a vacuum on earth,or above the earth?
Does the earth not have its own gravity?
We are speaking of the earth here,not space.Put aside those books.
wakeup.
Wakeup,God established the law of gravity and created the medium of space in which vacuum exists. Neither
of these is mentioned in the creation story. God is not divorced from the laws of science, he is the law maker. Men attempt to discover those laws using the scientific method and other means. I am not speaking if those attempts but I am speaking of what I know and do not know of God setting those laws.The way the creation even is written heaven is composed of both the atmosphere of earth and the vacuum of space and it was not created until the Second Night and Day.
I noticed a thick wall between the word of God and man.
And this includes you brother.
True knowledge has been hid from the world.
Will be revealed only in the kingdom.
When knowledge will cover the earth as the sea covers the earth.But as for now;the land is desolate,and God is very angrywakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 04 2014,04:17) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 04 2014,09:01) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,16:52) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 03 2014,09:29) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,02:40) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 03 2014,06:54) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:41) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,08:36) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,04:45) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:31) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,07:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16) kerwin wakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup
T.Is that not commonsense?
The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.
What say you?wakeup
Wakeup,There is nothing about evaporation.
Genesis 1:9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
The waters were gathered together not evaporated. One way they could have been gathered together is if the land rose above and displaced the water. It is called dry land so it was dried in some manner. I speculate that some kind of evaporation occurred.
Kerwin.Why could you not see this?
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, ***and let it DIVIDE the waters FROM the waters***. (EVAPORATION).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament,
***and *divided the waters* which were *under* the firmament,
from the waters which were *above* the firmament***: and it was so. (THIS IS SPEAKING OF DIVIDING THE WATERS TO CLOUDS).wakeup.
Wakeup.Evaporation makes water vapor not air. There is also vacuum as space is above the air. I am not sure where the water above is though perhaps it is the clouds. Clouds are water vapor and droplets but they are not above the air. They are high up in it though. God just made air so he could make water droplets and vapor as well.
Kerwin.You interpret the scriptures to your own desire.
You dont follow a straight line.
You are going all over the place to interpret scriptures.
Fitting in the pieces according to the picture in your
mind,and creating your own pieces to make it fit.You end up with a picture that looks like babel.
Just crisscross lines and blots of paint on top another.
Something like abstract art,that is not a clear picture.You have a problem.
Wakeup,I am following Scriptures exactly. I am not claiming that water vapor was created by evaporation that itself was caused by light from the sun but you are. I agree God made water vapor in the form of clouds and that the clouds may well be the water above. I agree God made air and the vacuum above. This discussion is good for gaining and testing understanding if handled correctly. You were doing fine. Can you discipline yourself and continue to seek understanding.
Kerwin.The earth was a ball of water on the surface of the earth.
Where does the couds come from?wakeup.
Wakeup,The earth was a ball of water with no atmosphere. At this time liquid does not exist in a vacuum. It turns to gas or water vapor. That water vapor itself would be an atmosphere and perhaps prevent the water beneath it from turning to vapor. This is assuming had already the laws required for those things to occur. I doubt he did at that time though he may well have done so on the second Night and Day of time.
Wakeup,?
Kerwin.You let science explain how God created all things from nothing. You let science explain where God comes from.
You let science explain how the Word was made flesh.
You let science explain how angels are made.wakeup.
Wakeup,You are the one who claimed that water was evaporated by sunlight not me.
I told you what would happen under the current conditions if the laws allowing for them were even set by God at that time. God is the lawmaker.
I don't know if the vacuum of space existed prior to the second Night and Day much less the law that allowed water to be evaporated.
Kerwin.Is there a vacuum on earth,or above the earth?
Does the earth not have its own gravity?
We are speaking of the earth here,not sp
ace.Put aside those books.
wakeup.
Wakeup,God established the law of gravity and created the medium of space in which vacuum exists. Neither of these is mentioned in the creation story. God is not divorced from the laws of science, he is the law maker. Men attempt to discover those laws using the scientific method and other means. I am not speaking if those attempts but I am speaking of what I know and do not know of God setting those laws.
The way the creation even is written heaven is composed of both the atmosphere of earth and the vacuum of space and it was not created until the Second Night and Day.
I noticed a thick wall between the word of God and man.
And this includes you brother.
True knowledge has been hid from the world.
Will be revealed only in the kingdom.
When knowledge will cover the earth as the sea covers the earth.But as for now;the land is desolate,and God is very angrywakeup.
Wakeup,You are addressing the issue. You have stated your conclusions but not how you have reached them. I have tested those conclusions and you have run from that test. Why?
If you would instead seek the truth then perhaps you would learn the truth.
Even the apostles will not be able to teach you all.
Because you have hardened your hearts towards the truth
in scripture. The concept of being proud is in you.
Quick in spitting out poison,slow in learning.
Still on the breast,and not even able to digest the milk.
But present them selves as being grown ups spiritually.
All will stand naked before the Lord,and can not cover their shame.Dont take this too lightly,for scriptures says,
Many will come and say Lord Lord,have we not done this and that, in your name. And He'll say; I dont know you depart from me you workers of lawlessness.First empty all blockages of the mind, and then start searhing,and reading with a humble heart.
First go and make peace with your brother,and then go and do your sacrifice.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 04 2014,04:44) Even the apostles will not be able to teach you all.
Because you have hardened your hearts towards the truth
in scripture. The concept of being proud is in you.
Quick in spitting out poison,slow in learning.
Still on the breast,and not even able to digest the milk.
But present them selves as being grown ups spiritually.
All will stand naked before the Lord,and can not cover their shame.Dont take this too lightly,for scriptures says,
Many will come and say Lord Lord,have we not done this and that, in your name. And He'll say; I dont know you depart from me you workers of lawlessness.First empty all blockages of the mind, and then start searhing,and reading with a humble heart.
First go and make peace with your brother,and then go and do your sacrifice.wakeup.
Wakeup,I know you are speaking against yourself but it serves no purpose except to run from a conversation where we seek the truth.
You claim sunlight caused the water that covered the earth to evaporate and I pointed out that I have no evidence that the law of evaporation was even made by God at that time.
I have also pointed out that the sun was actually lighted on the fourth Night and Day but contrary to Scripture you are claiming it was lighted on the first.
If you desire to be a teacher then find a creditable solution that is also the truth for these mysteries.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 04 2014,10:57) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 04 2014,04:44) Even the apostles will not be able to teach you all.
Because you have hardened your hearts towards the truth
in scripture. The concept of being proud is in you.
Quick in spitting out poison,slow in learning.
Still on the breast,and not even able to digest the milk.
But present them selves as being grown ups spiritually.
All will stand naked before the Lord,and can not cover their shame.Dont take this too lightly,for scriptures says,
Many will come and say Lord Lord,have we not done this and that, in your name. And He'll say; I dont know you depart from me you workers of lawlessness.First empty all blockages of the mind, and then start searhing,and reading with a humble heart.
First go and make peace with your brother,and then go and do your sacrifice.wakeup.
Wakeup,I know you are speaking against yourself but it serves no purpose except to run from a conversation where we seek the truth.
You claim sunlight caused the water that covered the earth to evaporate and I pointed out that I have no evidence that the law of evaporation was even made by God at that time.
I have also pointed out that the sun was actually lighted on the fourth Night and Day but contrary to Scripture you are claiming it was lighted on the first.
If you desire to be a teacher then find a creditable solution that is also the truth for these mysteries.
Kerwin.Please answer:
1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Can there be *night* and *day* with no sun?
Be honest with your reply.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 04 2014,07:52) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 04 2014,10:57) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 04 2014,04:44) Even the apostles will not be able to teach you all.
Because you have hardened your hearts towards the truth
in scripture. The concept of being proud is in you.
Quick in spitting out poison,slow in learning.
Still on the breast,and not even able to digest the milk.
But present them selves as being grown ups spiritually.
All will stand naked before the Lord,and can not cover their shame.Dont take this too lightly,for scriptures says,
Many will come and say Lord Lord,have we not done this and that, in your name. And He'll say; I dont know you depart from me you workers of lawlessness.First empty all blockages of the mind, and then start searhing,and reading with a humble heart.
First go and make peace with your brother,and then go and do your sacrifice.wakeup.
Wakeup,I know you are speaking against yourself but it serves no purpose except to run from a conversation where we seek the truth.
You claim sunlight caused the water that covered the earth to evaporate and I pointed out that I have no evidence that the law of evaporation was even made by God at that time.
I have also pointed out that the sun was actually lighted on the fourth Night and Day but contrary to Scripture you are claiming it was lighted on the first.
If you desire to be a teacher then find a creditable solution that is also the truth for these mysteries.
Kerwin.Please answer:
1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Can there be *night* and *day* with no sun?
Be honest with your reply.wakeup.
Wakeup,You assume the Night and Day are the Night and Day of earth. Why can it not be the Night and Day of heaven instead? There is no light that comes from the Sun, moon, or stars until the Forth Day and Night. The dimension of earth may have been in complete darkness or near darkness until the forth Night and Day of heaven while the dimension(s) of heaven has a Night and Day with a length as determined by God.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 05 2014,10:48) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 04 2014,07:52) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 04 2014,10:57) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 04 2014,04:44) Even the apostles will not be able to teach you all.
Because you have hardened your hearts towards the truth
in scripture. The concept of being proud is in you.
Quick in spitting out poison,slow in learning.
Still on the breast,and not even able to digest the milk.
But present them selves as being grown ups spiritually.
All will stand naked before the Lord,and can not cover their shame.Dont take this too lightly,for scriptures says,
Many will come and say Lord Lord,have we not done this and that, in your name. And He'll say; I dont know you depart from me you workers of lawlessness.First empty all blockages of the mind, and then start searhing,and reading with a humble heart.
First go and make peace with your brother,and then go and do your sacrifice.wakeup.
Wakeup,I know you are speaking against yourself but it serves no purpose except to run from a conversation where we seek the truth.
You claim sunlight caused the water that covered the earth to evaporate and I pointed out that I have no evidence that the law of evaporation was even made by God at that time.
I have also pointed out that the sun was actually lighted on the fourth Night and Day but contrary to Scripture you are claiming it was lighted on the first.
If you desire to be a teacher then find a creditable solution that is also the truth for these mysteries.
Kerwin.Please answer:
1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Can there be *night* and *day* with no sun?
Be honest with your reply.wakeup.
Wakeup,You assume the Night and Day are the Night and Day of earth. Why can it not be the Night and Day of heaven instead? There is no light that comes from the Sun, moon, or stars until the Forth Day and Night. The dimension of earth may have been in complete darkness or near darkness until the forth Night and Day of heaven while the dimension(s) of heaven has a Night and Day with a length as determined by God.
Kerwin.The creation in gen. is about earth.
1.And the morning and the evening is the first day.
2.And the morning and the evening is the second day.
3.And the morning and the evening is the third day.
4.And the morning and the evening is the the fourth day.
5.And the morning and the evening is the fift day.
6.And the morning and the evening is the sixth day.And I wish you a good day.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 05 2014,13:44) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 05 2014,10:48) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 04 2014,07:52) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 04 2014,10:57) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 04 2014,04:44) Even the apostles will not be able to teach you all.
Because you have hardened your hearts towards the truth
in scripture. The concept of being proud is in you.
Quick in spitting out poison,slow in learning.
Still on the breast,and not even able to digest the milk.
But present them selves as being grown ups spiritually.
All will stand naked before the Lord,and can not cover their shame.Dont take this too lightly,for scriptures says,
Many will come and say Lord Lord,have we not done this and that, in your name. And He'll say; I dont know you depart from me you workers of lawlessness.First empty all blockages of the mind, and then start searhing,and reading with a humble heart.
First go and make peace with your brother,and then go and do your sacrifice.wakeup.
Wakeup,I know you are speaking against yourself but it serves no purpose except to run from a conversation where we seek the truth.
You claim sunlight caused the water that covered the earth to evaporate and I pointed out that I have no evidence that the law of evaporation was even made by God at that time.
I have also pointed out that the sun was actually lighted on the fourth Night and Day but contrary to Scripture you are claiming it was lighted on the first.
If you desire to be a teacher then find a creditable solution that is also the truth for these mysteries.
Kerwin.Please answer:
1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Can there be *night* and *day* with no sun?
Be honest with your reply.wakeup.
Wakeup,You assume the Night and Day are the Night and Day of earth. Why can it not be the Night and Day of heaven instead? There is no light that comes from the Sun, moon, or stars until the Forth Day and Night. The dimension of earth may have been in complete darkness or near darkness until the forth Night and Day of heaven while the dimension(s) of heaven has a Night and Day with a length as determined by God.
Kerwin.The creation in gen. is about earth.
1.And the morning and the evening is the first day.
2.And the morning and the evening is the second day.
3.And the morning and the evening is the third day.
4.And the morning and the evening is the the fourth day.
5.And the morning and the evening is the fift day.
6.And the morning and the evening is the sixth day.And I wish you a good day.
wakeup.
Wakeup,You state your conclusion that the creation story in Genesis is solely about earth and yet you do not present the work you did to arrive at that conclusion.
You seem to have a fondness for doing the same thing in other cases.
Scripture states the sun was lighted on the forth night and day and yet you have implied it was lighted on the first night and day. You have not present the work you did to arrive at that conclusion.
When you present no work then it like you did not test the spirit of your own teachings.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 06 2014,06:55) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 05 2014,13:44) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 05 2014,10:48) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 04 2014,07:52) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 04 2014,10:57) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 04 2014,04:44) Even the apostles will not be able to teach you all.
Because you have hardened your hearts towards the truth
in scripture. The concept of being proud is in you.
Quick in spitting out poison,slow in learning.
Still on the breast,and not even able to digest the milk.
But present them selves as being grown ups spiritually.
All will stand naked before the Lord,and can not cover their shame.Dont take this too lightly,for scriptures says,
Many will come and say Lord Lord,have we not done this and that, in your name. And He'll say; I dont know you depart from me you workers of lawlessness.First empty all blockages of the mind, and then start searhing,and reading with a humble heart.
First go and make peace with your brother,and then go and do your sacrifice.wakeup.
Wakeup,I know you are speaking against yourself but it serves no purpose except to run from a conversation where we seek the truth.
You claim sunlight caused the water that covered the earth to evaporate and I pointed out that I have no evidence that the law of evaporation was even made by God at that time.
I have also pointed out that the sun was actually lighted on the fourth Night and Day but contrary to Scripture you are claiming it was lighted on the first.
If you desire to be a teacher then find a creditable solution that is also the truth for these mysteries.
Kerwin.Please answer:
1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Can there be *night* and *day* with no sun?
Be honest with your reply.wakeup.
Wakeup,You assume the Night and Day are the Night and Day of earth. Why can it not be the Night and Day of heaven instead? There is no light that comes from the Sun, moon, or stars until the Forth Day and Night. The dimension of earth may have been in complete darkness or near darkness until the forth Night and Day of heaven while the dimension(s) of heaven has a Night and Day with a length as determined by God.
Kerwin.The creation in gen. is about earth.
1.And the morning and the evening is the first day.
2.And the morning and the evening is the second day.
3.And the morning and the evening is the third day.
4.And the morning and the evening is the the fourth day.
5.And the morning and the evening is the fift day.
6.And the morning and the evening is the sixth day.And I wish you a good day.
wakeup.
Wakeup,You state your conclusion that the creation story in Genesis is solely about earth and yet you do not present the work you did to arrive at that conclusion.
You seem to have a fondness for doing the same thing in other cases.
Scripture states the sun was lighted on the forth night and day and yet you have implied it was lighted on the first night and day. You have not present the work you did to arrive at that conclusion.
When you present no work then it like you did not test the spirit of your own teachings.
Kerwin.You know full well that there can be no day with no sun.
The source of light on earth comes only from the sun.
There can only be day with the sun shining.
Ask a twelve year old ,and he will tell you.If you are confusing it with spiritual light,than you are
confused.Or have been lead into.Jesus did not come to earth looking like the sun;and yet He is the light. Because it is a different light.
Knowledge does not look like the sun,but can be compared as one.Gen. verse 4. is a repeat: summary.
The sun was created when God said; Let there be light.
Dont forget: God is not trying to teach us science here.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 06 2014,02:56)
Kerwin.You know full well that there can be no day with no sun.
The source of light on earth comes only from the sun.
There can only be day with the sun shining.
Ask a twelve year old ,and he will tell you.
…
Wakeup,You are using the idea that there is no day without a sun to contradict Scripture. An evolutionist does the same. Should I believe his argument?
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 06 2014,08:07) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 06 2014,02:56)
Kerwin.You know full well that there can be no day with no sun.
The source of light on earth comes only from the sun.
There can only be day with the sun shining.
Ask a twelve year old ,and he will tell you.
…
Wakeup,You are using the idea that there is no day without a sun to contradict Scripture. An evolutionist does the same. Should I believe his argument?
Kerwin.You are confusing spititual light and physical light.
Jesus came as the light of the world.
He did not shine like the sun.
His light is a spiritual light.Knowledge;wisdom.
Treasures in heaven is not like material(earthly) treasures.wakeup.
Wakeup,
I am not confusing spiritual and physical light because the earlier has always existed. I am speaking of physical light that is shed by a source. That could not be the sun or stars before the fourth Night and Day for Scripture to be true.
I agree that the Sun is earth's source of day which is why I don't believe the Night and Days of creation are the night and days of earth. Since that eliminated earth as the source of the night and day then it follows it must be somewhere else and the heaven of God is the only other option the story of creation gives us.
Is there physical light in the heaven of God?
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 06 2014,08:37) Wakeup, I am not confusing spiritual and physical light because the earlier has always existed. I am speaking of physical light that is shed by a source. That could not be the sun or stars before the fourth Night and Day for Scripture to be true.
I agree that the Sun is earth's source of day which is why I don't believe the Night and Days of creation are the night and days of earth. Since that eliminated earth as the source of the night and day then it follows it must be somewhere else and the heaven of God is the only other option the story of creation gives us.
Is there physical light in the heaven of God?
Kerwin.The light in heaven is God himself.
Can you explain what that light is in the beginning?
Let there be light:that means; there was no light at first.wakeup.
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