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Quote (tigger2 @ Dec. 31 2013,14:48) Thank you, Mike. I truly appreciate your kind comments. Yes, all those subjects on the right-hand side listed under ‘Trinity Subjects’ are files I have submitted. My partner and lifelong friend started the blog for me, maintains it, and sometimes adds illustrations. I have also contributed many of the subjects on our other blogs.
Tigger2.I agree with you not believing in the trinity.
But disagree, that Jesus is Micha'el the angel.
And that all JW'S will be in paradise in the flesh forever.
Getting married and having children.wakeup.
Quote (tigger2 @ Dec. 30 2013,21:48) Thank you, Mike. I truly appreciate your kind comments. Yes, all those subjects on the right-hand side listed under ‘Trinity Subjects’ are files I have submitted. My partner and lifelong friend started the blog for me, maintains it, and sometimes adds illustrations. I have also contributed many of the subjects on our other blogs.
I have saved the site in my Favorites, under the heading, tigger's blog site……… good stuff.
I saw a few articles on John 1:1 – but didn't see any writing where you supported the fact that “the Word” in John 1 is Jesus Christ. Have you written anything at all about the pre-existence of Christ?
I also didn't see any writings about the Jesus = Michael belief the JWs hold. Are there any?
Quote I saw a few articles on John 1:1 – but didn't see any writing where you supported the fact that “the Word” in John 1 is Jesus Christ. Have you written anything at all about the pre-existence of Christ? I just took it as a given, and didn’t feel the necessity to examine it. I believe I did mention in passing that some have taken the logos to be a quality (or some such thing). That’s probably in the DEFinite John 1:1c study. And I believe I wrote something about him being God's only-begotten Son before he was sent into the world (1 John).
Quote I also didn't see any writings about the Jesus = Michael belief the JWs hold. Are there any? I believe my Blog partner has a number of WT sources on this subject on the ‘Search for Bible Truths’ Blog. Just type ‘Michael’ into the ‘Google Custom Search’ box near the top.
I have an incomplete ‘Michael’ study on my computer that I started but tired out before I completed it. It lists a number of earlier Christians from various denominations who believed Christ to be Michael.
I haven't been especially interested in that particular subject and prefer to concentrate on more important matters (like knowing the God we must worship in truth).
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2013,07:11) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 30 2013,18:44) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2013,04:40)
Kerwin, is it your understanding that God first FORMED the earth, and then LATER laid the foundations of the earth? YES or NO?
Mike,Yes…………… as Genesis 1 and 2 tells us how the earth was both ordered and given form.
Okay. All I needed was the “YES”.You go ahead with that belief. I don't believe you'll ever find much support for it, though.
Kerwin, do yourself a favor and read the blog tigger wrote. He did a great job of showing how someone can come up with a theory that they WANT the scriptures to teach, and then go scurrying and scampering about to find unrelated and out of context scriptures that could be used as support for that theory – no matter how nonsensical that theory might be.
You do this A LOT! (For example, see how you're looking hard at different meanings of “doxa”, and bringing in unrelated, out of context scriptures, just so you don't have to accept the most sensible understanding of Jesus' words in John 17:5.)
The point is: Just because it's POSSIBLE to take a bunch of scriptures out of context, and make it seem like the Bible teaches that King David is the fourth person in a Quadrinity Godhead, it doesn't mean it's a sound, honest, or sensible thing to do.
Do you understand that?
Mike,I don't actually care how much support I get from men as the truth comes from God.
I do know that certain Scriptures make it seem as if the earth was shaped and that the foundation being laid was part of ordering and filling it.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16) kerwin wakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup
T.Is that not commonsense?
The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.
What say you?wakeup
Wakeup,There is nothing about evaporation.
Genesis 1:9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
The waters were gathered together not evaporated. One way they could have been gathered together is if the land rose above and displaced the water. It is called dry land so it was dried in some manner. I speculate that some kind of evaporation occurred.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,07:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16) kerwin wakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup
T.Is that not commonsense?
The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.
What say you?wakeup
Wakeup,There is nothing about evaporation.
Genesis 1:9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
The waters were gathered together not evaporated. One way they could have been gathered together is if the land rose above and displaced the water. It is called dry land so it was dried in some manner. I speculate that some kind of evaporation occurred.
Kerwin.Why could you not see this?
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, ***and let it DIVIDE the waters FROM the waters***. (EVAPORATION).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament,
***and *divided the waters* which were *under* the firmament,
from the waters which were *above* the firmament***: and it was so. (THIS IS SPEAKING OF DIVIDING THE WATERS TO CLOUDS).wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:31) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,07:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16) kerwin wakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup
T.Is that not commonsense?
The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.
What say you?wakeup
Wakeup,There is nothing about evaporation.
Genesis 1:9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
The waters were gathered together not evaporated. One way they could have been gathered together is if the land rose above and displaced the water. It is called dry land so it was dried in some manner. I speculate that some kind of evaporation occurred.
Kerwin.Why could you not see this?
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, ***and let it DIVIDE the waters FROM the waters***. (EVAPORATION).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament,
***and *divided the waters* which were *under* the firmament,
from the waters which were *above* the firmament***: and it was so. (THIS IS SPEAKING OF DIVIDING THE WATERS TO CLOUDS).wakeup.
Wakeup.Evaporation makes water vapor not air. There is also vacuum as space is above the air. I am not sure where the water above is though perhaps it is the clouds. Clouds are water vapor and droplets but they are not above the air. They are high up in it though. God just made air so he could make water droplets and vapor as well.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:31) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,07:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16) kerwin wakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup
T.Is that not commonsense?
The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.
What say you?wakeup
Wakeup,There is nothing about evaporation.
Genesis 1:9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
The waters were gathered together not evaporated. One way they could have been gathered together is if the land rose above and displaced the water. It is called dry land so it was dried in some manner. I speculate that some kind of evaporation occurred.
Kerwin.Why could you not see this?
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, ***and let it DIVIDE the waters FROM the waters***. (EVAPORATION).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament,
***and *divided the waters* which were *under* the firmament,
from the waters which were *above* the firmament***: and it was so. (THIS IS SPEAKING OF DIVIDING THE WATERS TO CLOUDS).wakeup.
Wakeup.Evaporation makes water vapor not air. There is also vacuum as space is above the air. I am not sure where the water above is though perhaps it is the clouds. Clouds are water vapor and droplets but they are not above the air. They are high up in it though. God just made air so he could make water droplets and vapor as well.
Kerwin.You interpret the scriptures to your own desire.
You dont follow a straight line.
You are going all over the place to interpret scriptures.
Fitting in the pieces according to the picture in your
mind,and creating your own pieces to make it fit.You end up with a picture that looks like babel.
Just crisscross lines and blots of paint on top another.
Something like abstract art,that is not a clear picture.You have a problem.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,04:45) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:31) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,07:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16) kerwin wakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup
T.Is that not commonsense?
The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.
What say you?wakeup
Wakeup,There is nothing about evaporation.
Genesis 1:9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
The waters were gathered together not evaporated. One way they could have been gathered together is if the land rose above and displaced the water. It is called dry land so it was dried in some manner. I speculate that some kind of evaporation occurred.
Kerwin.Why could you not see this?
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, ***and let it DIVIDE the waters FROM the waters***. (EVAPORATION).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament,
***and *divided the waters* which were *under* the firmament,
from the waters which were *above* the firmament***: and it was so. (THIS IS SPEAKING OF DIVIDING THE WATERS TO CLOUDS).wakeup.
Wakeup.Evaporation makes water vapor not air. There is also vacuum as space is above the air. I am not sure where the water above is though perhaps it is the clouds. Clouds are water vapor and droplets but they are not above the air. They are high up in it though. God just made air so he could make water droplets and vapor as well.
Kerwin.You interpret the scriptures to your own desire.
You dont follow a straight line.
You are going all over the place to interpret scriptures.
Fitting in the pieces according to the picture in your
mind,and creating your own pieces to make it fit.You end up with a picture that looks like babel.
Just crisscross lines and blots of paint on top another.
Something like abstract art,that is not a clear picture.You have a problem.
wwhy could you not be a nice guy and tell us how it should be ;
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,10:14) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,04:45) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:31) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,07:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16) kerwin wakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup
T.Is that not commonsense?
The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.
What say you?wakeup
Wakeup,There is nothing about evaporation.
Genesis 1:9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
The waters were gathered together not evaporated. One way they could have been gathered together is if the land rose above and displaced the water. It is called dry land so it was dried in some manner. I speculate that some kind of evaporation occurred.
Kerwin.Why could you not see this?
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, ***and let it DIVIDE the waters FROM the waters***. (EVAPORATION).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament,
***and *divided the waters* which were *under* the firmament,
from the waters which were *above* the firmament***: and it was so. (THIS IS SPEAKING OF DIVIDING THE WATERS TO CLOUDS).wakeup.
Wakeup.Evaporation makes water vapor not air. There is also vacuum as space is above the air. I am not sure where the water above is though perhaps it is the clouds. Clouds are water vapor and droplets but they are not above the air. They are high up in it though. God just made air so he could make water droplets and vapor as well.
Kerwin.You interpret the scriptures to your own desire.
You dont follow a straight line.
You are going all over the place to interpret scriptures.
Fitting in the pieces according to the picture in your
mind,and creating your own pieces to make it fit.You end up with a picture that looks like babel.
Just crisscross lines and blots of paint on top another.
Something like abstract art,that is not a clear picture.You have a problem.
wwhy could you not be a nice guy and tell us how it should be ;
T.You read the old prohesies and the new
Then you fit the one that fits in with each other.
And slowly and surely you develop a picture.
But nothing must contradict each other.
If you have managed to do that;then you have found the truth.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,07:10) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,10:14) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,04:45) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:31) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,07:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16) kerwin wakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup
T.Is that not commonsense?
The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.
What say you?wakeup
Wakeup,There is nothing about evaporation.
Genesis 1:9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
The waters were gathered together not evaporated. One way they could have been gathered together is if the land rose above and displaced the water. It is called dry land so it was dried in some manner. I speculate that some kind of evaporation occurred.
Kerwin.Why could you not see this?
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, ***and let it DIVIDE the waters FROM the waters***. (EVAPORATION).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament,
***and *divided the waters* which were *under* the firmament,
from the waters which were *above* the firmament***: and it was so. (THIS IS SPEAKING OF DIVIDING THE WATERS TO CLOUDS).wakeup.
Wakeup.Evaporation makes water vapor not air. There is also vacuum as space is above the air. I am not sure where the water above is though perhaps it is the clouds. Clouds are water vapor and droplets but they are not above the air. They are high up in it though. God just made air so he could make water droplets and vapor as well.
Kerwin.You interpret the scriptures to your own desire.
You dont follow a straight line.
You are going all over the place to interpret scriptures.
Fitting in the pieces according to the picture in your
mind,and creating your own pieces to make it fit.You end up with a picture that looks like babel.
Just crisscross lines and blots of paint on top another.
Something like abstract art,that is not a clear picture.You have a problem.
wwhy could you not be a nice guy and tell us how it should be ;
T.You read the old prohesies and the new
Then you fit the one that fits in with each other.
And slowly and surely you develop a picture.
But nothing must contradict each other.
If you have managed to do that;then you have found the truth.wakeup.
Ps 78:1 O my people, hear my teaching;
listen to the words of my mouth.
Ps 78:2 I will open my mouth in parables,
I will utter hidden things, things from of old—
Ps 78:3 what we have heard and known,
what our fathers have told us.
Ps 78:4 We will not hide them from their children;
we will tell the next generation
the praiseworthy deeds of the LORD,
his power, and the wonders he has done.
Ps 78:5 He decreed statutes for Jacob
and established the law in Israel,
which he commanded our forefathers
to teach their children,
Ps 78:6 so the next generation would know them,
even the children yet to be born,
and they in turn would tell their children.
Ps 78:7 Then they would put their trust in God
and would not forget his deeds
but would keep his commands.Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,12:31) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,07:10) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,10:14) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,04:45) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:31) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,07:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16) kerwin wakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup
T.Is that not commonsense?
The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.
What say you?wakeup
Wakeup,There is nothing about evaporation.
Genesis 1:9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
The waters were gathered together not evaporated. One way they could have been gathered together is if the land rose above and displaced the water. It is called dry land so it was dried in some manner. I speculate that some kind of evaporation occurred.
Kerwin.Why could you not see this?
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, ***and let it DIVIDE the waters FROM the waters***. (EVAPORATION).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament,
***and *divided the waters* which were *under* the firmament,
from the waters which were *above* the firmament***: and it was so. (THIS IS SPEAKING OF DIVIDING THE WATERS TO CLOUDS).wakeup.
Wakeup.Evaporation makes water vapor not air. There is also vacuum as space is above the air. I am not sure where the water above is though perhaps it is the clouds. Clouds are water vapor and droplets but they are not above the air. They are high up in it though. God just made air so he could make water droplets and vapor as well.
Kerwin.You interpret the scriptures to your own desire.
You dont follow a straight line.
You are going all over the place to interpret scriptures.
Fitting in the pieces according to the picture in your
mind,and creating your own pieces to make it fit.You end up with a picture that looks like babel.
Just crisscross lines and blots of paint on top another.
Something like abstract art,that is not a clear picture.You have a problem.
wwhy could you not be a nice guy and tell us how it should be ;
T.You read the old prohesies and the new
Then you fit the one that fits in with each other.
And slowly and surely you develop a picture.
But nothing must contradict each other.
If you have managed to do that;then you have found the truth.wakeup.
Ps 78:1 O my people, hear my teaching;
listen to the words of my mouth.
Ps 78:2 I will open my mouth in parables,
I will utter hidden things, things from of old—
Ps 78:3 what we have heard and known,
what our fathers have told us.
Ps 78:4 We will not hide them from their children;
we will tell the next generation
the praiseworthy deeds of the LORD,
his power, and the wonders he has done.
Ps 78:5 He decreed statutes for Jacob
and established the law in Israel,
which he commanded our forefathers
to teach their children,
Ps 78:6 so the next generation would know them,
even the children yet to be born,
and they in turn would tell their children.
Ps 78:7 Then they would put their trust in God
and would not forget his deeds
but would keep his commands.
T.Yes,those old prophesies
are also of the coming future.
If you are into prophesies;
you are weaned from the breast.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,04:45) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:31) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,07:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16) kerwin wakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup
T.Is that not commonsense?
The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.
What say you?wakeup
Wakeup,There is nothing about evaporation.
Genesis 1:9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
The waters were gathered together not evaporated. One way they could have been gathered together is if the land rose above and displaced the water. It is called dry land so it was dried in some manner. I speculate that some kind of evaporation occurred.
Kerwin.Why could you not see this?
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, ***and let it DIVIDE the waters FROM the waters***. (EVAPORATION).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament,
***and *divided the waters* which were *under* the firmament,
from the waters which were *above* the firmament***: and it was so. (THIS IS SPEAKING OF DIVIDING THE WATERS TO CLOUDS).wakeup.
Wakeup.Evaporation makes water vapor not air. There is also vacuum as space is above the air. I am not sure where the water above is though perhaps it is the clouds. Clouds are water vapor and droplets but they are not above the air. They are high up in it though. God just made air so he could make water droplets and vapor as well.
Kerwin.You interpret the scriptures to your own desire.
You dont follow a straight line.
You are going all over the place to interpret scriptures.
Fitting in the pieces according to the picture in your
mind,and creating your own pieces to make it fit.You end up with a picture that looks like babel.
Just crisscross lines and blots of paint on top another.
Something like abstract art,that is not a clear picture.You have a problem.
Wakeup,I am following Scriptures exactly. I am not claiming that water vapor was created by evaporation that itself was caused by light from the sun but you are. I agree God made water vapor in the form of clouds and that the clouds may well be the water above. I agree God made air and the vacuum above. This discussion is good for gaining and testing understanding if handled correctly. You were doing fine. Can you discipline yourself and continue to seek understanding.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,04:45) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:31) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,07:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16) kerwin wakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup
T.Is that not commonsense?
The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.
What say you?wakeup
Wakeup,There is nothing about evaporation.
Genesis 1:9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
The waters were gathered together not evaporated. One way they could have been gathered together is if the land rose above and displaced the water. It is called dry land so it was dried in some manner. I speculate that some kind of evaporation occurred.
Kerwin.Why could you not see this?
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, ***and let it DIVIDE the waters FROM the waters***. (EVAPORATION).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament,
***and *divided the waters* which were *under* the firmament,
from the waters which were *above* the firmament***: and it was so. (THIS IS SPEAKING OF DIVIDING THE WATERS TO CLOUDS).wakeup.
Wakeup.Evaporation makes water vapor not air. There is also vacuum as space is above the air. I am not sure where the water above is though perhaps it is the clouds. Clouds are water vapor and droplets but they are not above the air. They are high up in it though. God just made air so he could make water droplets and vapor as well.
Kerwin.You interpret the scriptures to your own desire.
You dont follow a straight line.
You are going all over the place to interpret scriptures.
Fitting in the pieces according to the picture in your
mind,and creating your own pieces to make it fit.You end up with a picture that looks like babel.
Just crisscross lines and blots of paint on top another.
Something like abstract art,that is not a clear picture.You have a problem.
Wakeup,I am following Scriptures exactly. I am not claiming that water vapor was created by evaporation that itself was caused by light from the sun but you are. I agree God made water vapor in the form of clouds and that the clouds may well be the water above. I agree God made air and the vacuum above. This discussion is good for gaining and testing understanding if handled correctly. You were doing fine. Can you discipline yourself and continue to seek understanding.
Kerwin.The earth was a ball of water on the surface of the earth.
Where does the couds come from?wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,08:36) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,04:45) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:31) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,07:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16) kerwin wakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup
T.Is that not commonsense?
The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.
What say you?wakeup
Wakeup,There is nothing about evaporation.
Genesis 1:9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
The waters were gathered together not evaporated. One way they could have been gathered together is if the land rose above and displaced the water. It is called dry land so it was dried in some manner. I speculate that some kind of evaporation occurred.
Kerwin.Why could you not see this?
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, ***and let it DIVIDE the waters FROM the waters***. (EVAPORATION).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament,
***and *divided the waters* which were *under* the firmament,
from the waters which were *above* the firmament***: and it was so. (THIS IS SPEAKING OF DIVIDING THE WATERS TO CLOUDS).wakeup.
Wakeup.Evaporation makes water vapor not air. There is also vacuum as space is above the air. I am not sure where the water above is though perhaps it is the clouds. Clouds are water vapor and droplets but they are not above the air. They are high up in it though. God just made air so he could make water droplets and vapor as well.
Kerwin.You interpret the scriptures to your own desire.
You dont follow a straight line.
You are going all over the place to interpret scriptures.
Fitting in the pieces according to the picture in your
mind,and creating your own pieces to make it fit.You end up with a picture that looks like babel.
Just crisscross lines and blots of paint on top another.
Something like abstract art,that is not a clear picture.You have a problem.
Wakeup,I am following Scriptures exactly. I am not claiming that water vapor was created by evaporation that itself was caused by light from the sun but you are. I agree God made water vapor in the form of clouds and that the clouds may well be the water above. I agree God made air and the vacuum above. This discussion is good for gaining and testing understanding if handled correctly. You were doing fine. Can you discipline yourself and continue to seek understanding.
Kerwin.The earth was a ball of water on the surface of the earth.
Where does the couds come from?wakeup.
Wakeup,The earth was a ball of water with no atmosphere. At this time liquid does not exist in a vacuum. It turns to gas or water vapor. That water vapor itself would be an atmosphere and perhaps prevent the water beneath it from turning to vapor. This is assuming had already the laws required for those things to occur. I doubt he did at that time though he may well have done so on the second Night and Day of time.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,08:18) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,12:31) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,07:10) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,10:14) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,04:45) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,09:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:31) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,07:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:16) kerwin wakeup as it plan in a perfect way ;if you quote another bible it is false ;if you quoting the KJV you do not interpreted rightly ;this is a win/win for wakeup
T.Is that not commonsense?
The sun has to be there first for the water to evaporate.
What say you?wakeup
Wakeup,There is nothing about evaporation.
Genesis 1:9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
The waters were gathered together not evaporated. One way they could have been gathered together is if the land rose above and displaced the water. It is called dry land so it was dried in some manner. I speculate that some kind of evaporation occurred.
Kerwin.Why could you not see this?
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, ***and let it DIVIDE the waters FROM the waters***. (EVAPORATION).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament,
***and *divided the waters* which were *under* the firmament,
from the waters which were *above* the firmament***: and it was so. (THIS IS SPEAKING OF DIVIDING THE WATERS TO CLOUDS).wakeup.
Wakeup.Evaporation makes water vapor not air. There is also vacuum as space is above the air. I am not sure where the water above is though perhaps it is the clouds. Clouds are water vapor and droplets but they are not above the air. They are high up in it though. God just made air so he could make water droplets and vapor as well.
Kerwin.You interpret the scriptures to your own desire.
You dont follow a straight line.
You are going all over the place to interpret scriptures.
Fitting in the pieces according to the picture in your
mind,and creating your own pieces to make it fit.You end up with a picture that looks like babel.
Just crisscross lines and blots of paint on top another.
Something like abstract art,that is not a clear picture.You have a problem.
wwhy could you not be a nice guy and tell us how it should be ;
T.You read the old prohesies and the new
Then you fit the one that fits in with each other.
And slowly and surely you develop a picture.
But nothing must contradict each other.
If you have managed to do that;then you have found the truth.wakeup.
Ps 78:1 O my people, hear my teaching;
listen to the words of my mouth.
Ps 78:2 I will open my mouth in parables,
I will utter hidden things, things from of old—
Ps 78:3 what we have heard and known,
what our fathers have told us.
Ps 78:4 We will not hide them from their children;
we will tell the next generation
the praiseworthy deeds of the LORD,
his power, and the wonders he has done.
Ps 78:5 He decreed statutes for Jacob
and established the law in Israel,
which he commanded our forefathers
to teach their children,
Ps 78:6 so the next generation would know them,
even the children yet to be born,
and they in turn would tell their children.
Ps 78:7 Then they would put their trust in God
and would not forget his deeds
but would keep his commands.
T.Yes,those old prophesies
are also of the coming future.
If you are into prophesies;
you are weaned from the breast.wakeup.
Obedience seems the better optionQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,14:25) w where does it say that the earth was a ball of water
T.Learn to decern the scriptures.
Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved
***upon the face of the waters***.
There was no land in vision *untill* the waters has been devided from the waters. After the sun was created.
Evaporation brings some of the waters up as clouds.wakeup.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,14:30) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,14:25) w where does it say that the earth was a ball of water
T.Learn to decern the scriptures.
Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved
***upon the face of the waters***.
There was no land in vision *untill* the waters has been devided from the waters. After the sun was created.
Evaporation brings some of the waters up as clouds.wakeup.
wakeup.
wGenesis 1:2 And the earth was without form ( what would this mean without form
), and void; = (what does it mean void )and darkness was upon the face of the deep (you say that the deep is water right ?). And the Spirit of God movedQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2014,11:34) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,14:30) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,14:25) w where does it say that the earth was a ball of water
T.Learn to decern the scriptures.
Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved
***upon the face of the waters***.
There was no land in vision *untill* the waters has been devided from the waters. After the sun was created.
Evaporation brings some of the waters up as clouds.wakeup.
wakeup.
wGenesis 1:2 And the earth was without form ( what would this mean without form
), and void; = (what does it mean void )and darkness was upon the face of the deep (you say that the deep is water right ?). And the Spirit of God moved
T.Quote
Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form ( what would this mean without form ), and void; = (what does it mean void )and darkness was upon the face of the deep (you say that the deep is water right ?). And the Spirit of God moved1.Without form: Just a ball of earth covered with water.
no mountians nor hills. No valley's no waterfalls.
2. Void,because there was no life.
3.Darkness,because there was no sun.
4. Darkness upon the face of the deep: The deep space.
no stars, no no moon, no sun.wakeup.
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