When Jesus became the Anointed of God

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Hi MB,
The Spirit is one.
The Spirit does the creating.[Ps104]

April 5, 2012 at 2:33 am#290045

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2012,18:53)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2012,11:17)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,00:15)

Hi T,
Any proof there was a SON before creation?

Hebrews 1:2
but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son……….through whom he made the universe.

Colossians 1
13 For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves………….

16 For through him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible…………….

Hi MB,
Indeed the universe was created by the SPIRIT OF HIS SON[gal4]

wrong all of creation was created through the son ,his first creation,the spirit of Christ is the will he has to do his fathers will what we all should look for to obtain,

this is what James says ::submit yourself to God :

April 5, 2012 at 2:36 am#290047

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Hi T,
The Spirit creates.
The Spirit of the Son creates

April 5, 2012 at 2:40 am#290049

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Hi T
You say
“the spirit of Christ is the will he has to do his fathers will what we all should look for to obtain,”

Yes we do need the Spirit of Christ but it is not WILL but understanding and power.

“God is at work in you to will and to do” Phil

April 5, 2012 at 2:49 am#290054

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2012,20:40)

Hi T
You say
“the spirit of Christ is the will he has to do his fathers will what we all should look for to obtain,”

Yes we do need the Spirit of Christ but it is not WILL but understanding and power.

“God is at work in you to will and to do” Phil

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but it is not WILL but understanding and power.

NO Nick it is our will our voluntary will ,just as Christ was doing it ,

the power and understanding is given as needed to those who submit to God as Jesus did his son ,from heaven not from earth

Phil 1:9 And this is my prayer: that your love may abound more and more in knowledge and depth of insight,
Phil 1:10 so that you may be able to discern what is best and may be pure and blameless until the day of Christ,

Paul says to acquire more knowledge in Gods word (bible)

April 5, 2012 at 3:04 am#290062

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Hi T,
Certainly cleansed and filled vessels can be useful to God.[2Tim2]

April 5, 2012 at 4:58 am#290078

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2012,11:09)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2012,23:04)

Whatever is of God is God.

Okay “Ed”.

The heavens and the earth of “of God”. Are they God?

Mankind is “of God”. Are men God?

Hi Mike, my explanation is…

Nick was referring to God's word, not to his creation.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 5, 2012 at 5:13 am#290080

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2012,11:14)

Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2012,02:23)

Hi Mike,

Manoah certainly believed God had visited him,
as did Moses at the bush; but Scripture points
out that it was really an Angel of God instead.

Are you saying that Manoah was confused, and thought it was God Himself that he saw?

Read the passage again, Ed. It is clear that Manoah KNEW it was an ANGEL OF God, yet he still said we have seen a god.

Hi Mike,

There you go again, using the word “himself” in an attempt to make Scripture conform to your understanding!

Judges 13:22 Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.
Why did Manoah say that to his wife? …Why? because of Ex 33:20 of course!
“for there shall no man see me, and live.” (Ex 33:20)

You DO NOT DIE when you see an Angel of God,
so your rudimentary logic needs to get burned up!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 5, 2012 at 5:19 am#290081

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2012,11:21)

Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2012,02:24)

Mike said:

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2012,13:32)

So you can either become a true believer in scriptures, or you can stay where you're at

'False accusations' will get you no-where!

Ed J

See Ed? This is why I usually walk away from you (like I do Toby).

Out of that whole, time-consuming explanation I gave you, the best you can do is clip part of a sentence, post it out of context, and make a false accusation against me?

When will you refute anything I said in that post? Can you answer to “God of gods”? Can you refute that angels and men were gods, according the very scriptures?

Hi Mike,

Angels are “Sons of God”. (see Job 38:7)

“Ye are even my witnesses.
Is there 'a God' beside me? yea,
there is no God; I know not any. (Isa 44:8)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 5, 2012 at 5:21 am#290082

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2012,11:21)

See Ed? This is why I usually walk away from you (like I do Toby).

Hi Mike,

You walk away, because that is all you can do,
when it is not in your heart to seek agreement!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 5, 2012 at 5:22 am#290083

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2012,13:30)

Okay Nick.

You go ahead and add your own words “spirit of” into the scriptures as you see fit.

Unlike you, I'll make my understanding fit around them, instead of the other way around.

Mmmm

April 6, 2012 at 2:16 am#290253

mikeboll64

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Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2012,23:21)

Hi Mike,

You walk away, because that is all you can do……………

No Ed. I could stay and explain these things to you YET AGAIN.

I could point out ONCE AGAIN how scripture says God is our ONLY Savior when it is clear that He sent many other saviors. Or how Paul says our ONE Lord is Jesus, when we know there are many other Lords.

I could ask you who the gods are that Jehovah is the God of.

And we could just keep going around in circles. But I'm tired of using my time to explain the same things to you over and over and over, Ed.

So I will walk away for now.

April 6, 2012 at 2:25 am#290261

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2012,13:16)

Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2012,23:21)

Hi Mike,

You walk away, because that is all you can do……………

No Ed. I could stay and explain these things to you YET AGAIN.

I could ask you ONCE AGAIN how it can say God is our ONLY Savior when it is clear that He sent many other saviors.

I could ask you who the gods are that Jehovah is the God of.

And we could just keep going around in circles. But I'm tired of using my time to explain the same things to you over and over and over, Ed.

So I will walk away for now.

Hi Mike, I produce FACTS, not opinions supported be fake scenarios.

“The Savior”(117) = “God The Father”(117) = (117)” יהוה חאלהים “ (JEHOVAH GOD)

Jesus’ Name in Hebrew יהשוע means: (“YÄ is salvation” [יה]+[ישע]=[יהשוע])

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 6, 2012 at 2:30 am#290266

toby

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Hi Mikeboll,
You said:

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2012,11:21)
See Ed? This is why I usually walk away from you (like I do Toby).

Rubber Ball!!

It appears that you 'walk away' because you cannot answer or give a weak argument and until you can figure a way that feels like a response.

Even when you asked me not to use your name in any post regarding 'Spirit Body' you reneged on your part immediately afterwards – I don't think I could class that as 'Walking Away'.

April 6, 2012 at 4:39 am#290331

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Quote (Ed J @ April 06 2012,20:25)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2012,13:16)

Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2012,23:21)

Hi Mike,

You walk away, because that is all you can do……………

No Ed. I could stay and explain these things to you YET AGAIN.

I could ask you ONCE AGAIN how it can say God is our ONLY Savior when it is clear that He sent many other saviors.

I could ask you who the gods are that Jehovah is the God of.

And we could just keep going around in circles. But I'm tired of using my time to explain the same things to you over and over and over, Ed.

So I will walk away for now.

Hi Mike, I produce FACTS, not opinions supported be fake scenarios.

“The Savior”(117) = “God The Father”(117) = (117)” יהוה חאלהים “ (JEHOVAH GOD)

Jesus’ Name in Hebrew יהשוע means: (“YÄ is salvation” [יה]+[ישע]=[יהשוע])

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 6, 2012 at 4:39 am#290333

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Quote (toby @ April 06 2012,20:30)

Hi Mikeboll,
You said:

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2012,11:21)
See Ed? This is why I usually walk away from you (like I do Toby).

Rubber Ball!!

It appears that you 'walk away' because you cannot answer or give a weak argument and until you can figure a way that feels like a response.

Even when you asked me not to use your name in any post regarding 'Spirit Body' you reneged on your part immediately afterwards – I don't think I could class that as 'Walking Away'.

April 6, 2012 at 6:46 am#290410

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April 7, 2012 at 5:57 pm#290709

mikeboll64

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Quote (toby @ April 05 2012,20:30)

It appears that you 'walk away' because you cannot answer ……………..

Toby,

Are you posting in this thread to support Ed in his claim that there is LITERALLY only one god mentioned in scripture?

Or are you here merely because you saw a place where you could make yet another false accusation about me?

Please, add your thoughts to the “god” discussion we're having. Are there “many gods in heaven and on earth”, like Paul says? Or is Jehovah LITERALLY the ONLY god ever mentioned in scripture?

April 7, 2012 at 6:40 pm#290716