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Hi Georg,
The earth was created before the Genesis narrative begins.It was formless and void at that stage?
It was in the beginning.
To all,
Sorry if i'm a little late with some input.
Morning Stars… Son's of God…
Who are the Morning Stars? as opposed to the 'All' the Son's of God?
Jesus ends up as the Bright and Morning Star. Wasn't it Satan who was first ascribed the title 'Morning Star'? The morning star that tried to sit on the mount (Throne) of God?
So, was he Not the ONLY Morning Star? Clearly not, for the verse says 'Stars'.
Who, then, are the other Morning Stars, or 'who is the other' Morning Star?
Perhaps these are the ones called 'Princes' in Psalm 82, 'of which one has fallen'!
Which one of the Princes, 'principle Sons of God' has fallen.
(That is wierd, I never made the connection before, 'Princ[iple/e]')When was Jesus 'Begotten' of God?
“To which of the angels did God ever say, 'You are my Son, Today I have begotten you'?”
When Jesus was 'Begotten', he was 'Man'. So what at first looks like a conundrum is actually very simply resolved.
“To which of the angels did he say, ' You are my Son.'”
Stop the verse there!What do you read? It appears God never calls the angels 'his Sons'…but we know from Scriptures that that is not true. So, that sentence cannot be read in short, as shown. It MUST be read as a whole. And the pertinent portion is…'Today, I have begotten you'
'They are all my Sons but, You, today, I have begotten. You who has completely and faithfully performed your commission. I will annoint you with the oil of the Holy Spirit and set you above your brethren, indeed, on my throne at my righthand. Let all your brethren do obeisance to you and to you I appoint the privilege of eternal heir to my kingdom and eternal priest in my temple for everlasting, in the manner of Melkizedek.'
JA…………> These promises are also given to us, Who are also considered First Fruits unto GOD, heirs and Joint heirs with Jesus.
Rev 2:28…> And i shall give him the (morning star).
Rev 22:16…> I Jesus have sent my messenger (JOHN) to testify unto you these things in the churches, I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright and (morning star).
peace and love to you and yours………………..gene
Georg……….The Hebrew translates it < the earth (became) toho and boho or void and chaotic without life, as i recall, not that it alway was that way before the creation of MAN.
peace and love to you and Irene…………………….gene
Gene,
Thanks. And you are right.
But you are only expanding on what I am saying. I am well aware of these benefits to man. I was constraning my point to Jesus and the angels.
One of my interests is exactly on this point and U was seeking a thread to express my thoughts in.
By the way, I would advice changing the 'US's and 'WE's to 'Them' and 'They' or add …us/we…according to the hope, or quoting the 'us' and 'we'.
Reason, noone should claim salvation in the same aire as the Prophets, Saints, Disciples and Apostles but one carry profess desire in the 'hope of Salvation'.Believe me, you will be challenged on this at some stage and will have to admit that you can't swear to being saved except by self-profession.
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