what truth do we know for sure ?

[terraricca]

TK

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I will stick to what the scriptures teach, Tim.

THIS GO'S FOR ME AS WELL

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,07:29)

TK Quote I will stick to what the scriptures teach, Tim. THIS GO'S FOR ME AS WELL Pierre

+1

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 06 2011,21:48)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,07:29) TK Quote I will stick to what the scriptures teach, Tim. THIS GO'S FOR ME AS WELL Pierre +1 God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ

If it is so as you say, why are we still appart in scriptures ?

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,17:10)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 06 2011,21:48) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,07:29) TK Quote I will stick to what the scriptures teach, Tim. THIS GO'S FOR ME AS WELL Pierre +1 God bless Ed J EDJ If it is so as you say, why are we still appart in scriptures ? Pierre

Hi Pierre,

We are not appart in scriptures,
it's only our views of Scripture that differ.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,00:18)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,17:10) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 06 2011,21:48) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,07:29) TK Quote I will stick to what the scriptures teach, Tim. THIS GO'S FOR ME AS WELL Pierre +1 God bless Ed J EDJ If it is so as you say, why are we still appart in scriptures ? Pierre Hi Pierre, We are not appart in scriptures, it's only our views of Scripture that differ. Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ

We never can be appart from scriptures it is not our scriptures ,it is only in the true understanding,and the scriptural understanding that we are separated ,

But that is the separation that Christ made with the religious groups in his time,and so all his disciple left there group to follow Jesus ,

What is uniting believers his there believe in what the believe ,look trinitarians are not group together with the JW or other non trinitarians group,they can make alliances but will stay separated ,just like the Sadducees and the Pharesees ,in Jesus time,

But they have no true understanding unless they quote scriptures,

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:12)

EDJ But they have no true understanding unless they quote scriptures, Pierre

Hi Pierre,

Since I quote Scriptures    …these words then apply to me, right?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:12) EDJ But they have no true understanding unless they quote scriptures, Pierre Hi Pierre, Since I quote Scriptures    …these words then apply to me, right? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ

My friend,why are you asking such a question ,is your heart troubled by what I say ?

If so ,if so,do not ask me ,ask God,

I by no means pointed this to you because it is so a general action by so many,

Pierre

[mikeboll64]

Hi Tim,

Revelation 2
4 Yet I hold this against you: You have forsaken your first love. 5 Remember the height from which you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place.

Jesus said these words to the church in Ephesus……………AFTER they had accepted him as their Lord and Savior.  Why would they still need to repent from actions Christ saw as unfavorable AFTER they had already been saved and given eternal life?

Tim, read what Jesus says to the rest of the churches in Revelation.  There is no indication that the eternal salvation of these believers in Christ was a done deal – just because they said “I believe”.  Even these fine believers were warned that if they didn't alter the actions that were displeasing to Jesus, bad things were going to happen to them.

Food for thought.

[mikeboll64]

Ed,

Do you believe it is Jesus Christ who speaks to the churches in Revelation 2 and 3?

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,01:31)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:12) EDJ But they have no true understanding unless they quote scriptures, Pierre Hi Pierre, Since I quote Scriptures    …these words then apply to me, right? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

you only deal with half of my comment

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 07 2011,09:48)

Ed, Do you believe it is Jesus Christ who speaks to the churches in Revelation 2 and 3?

Hi Mike,

That appears to be what the text is saying; please proceed.
I enjoy when conversations that start with agreement.
It's too bad that they don't always end that way.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,10:18)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,01:31) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:12) EDJ But they have no true understanding unless they quote scriptures, Pierre Hi Pierre, Since I quote Scriptures    …these words then apply to me, right? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj you only deal with half of my comment Pierre

PIERRE,

What do want to know?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 08 2011,23:26)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,10:18) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,01:31) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:12) EDJ But they have no true understanding unless they quote scriptures, Pierre Hi Pierre, Since I quote Scriptures    …these words then apply to me, right? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj you only deal with half of my comment Pierre PIERRE, What do want to know? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

do you believe that we all preexisted ?our conception I mean.

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2011,19:15)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 08 2011,23:26) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,10:18) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,01:31) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:12) EDJ But they have no true understanding unless they quote scriptures, Pierre Hi Pierre, Since I quote Scriptures    …these words then apply to me, right? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj you only deal with half of my comment Pierre PIERRE, What do want to know? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj do you believe that we all preexisted ?our conception I mean. Pierre

Hi Pierre, yep.

Yes, Pierre; we all preexisted our flesh!
Thanks very much for your concern in this matter!

2Tm.1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling,
not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace,
which was given [[[us]]] in Christ Jesus before the world began, (John 15:27)

                         “The Word” in us!

John 15:27 And ye also shall bear witness (by the HolySpirit),
because [[[ye]]] have been with me from the beginning.
Acts 12:24 But “The word” of God grew and multiplied.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 09 2011,03:02)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2011,19:15) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 08 2011,23:26) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,10:18) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,01:31) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:12) EDJ But they have no true understanding unless they quote scriptures, Pierre Hi Pierre, Since I quote Scriptures    …these words then apply to me, right? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj you only deal with half of my comment Pierre PIERRE, What do want to know? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj do you believe that we all preexisted ?our conception I mean. Pierre Hi Pierre, yep. Yes, Pierre; we all preexisted our flesh! Thanks very much for your concern in this matter! 2Tm.1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given [[[us]]] in Christ Jesus before the world began, (John 15:27)                          “The Word” in us! John 15:27 And ye also shall bear witness (by the HolySpirit), because [[[ye]]] have been with me from the beginning. Acts 12:24 But “The word” of God grew and multiplied. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

sorry but it does not say that we are preexisting our human live,

again you do not let scriptures direct you ,

you do not make sens to me ;you argue with Mike on feminine and masculine wording,and now you take US” and YE”and turn it to the scriptures (whole)

show me any man that preexisted or being beside Jesus ,

written in the scriptures,and do not miss represent with what was FORETOLD BY GOD,

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2011,20:14)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 09 2011,03:02) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2011,19:15) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 08 2011,23:26) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,10:18) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,01:31) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:12) EDJ But they have no true understanding unless they quote scriptures, Pierre Hi Pierre, Since I quote Scriptures    …these words then apply to me, right? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj you only deal with half of my comment Pierre PIERRE, What do want to know? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj do you believe that we all preexisted ?our conception I mean. Pierre Hi Pierre, yep. Yes, Pierre; we all preexisted our flesh! Thanks very much for your concern in this matter! 2Tm.1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given [[[us]]] in Christ Jesus before the world began, (John 15:27)                          “The Word” in us! John 15:27 And ye also shall bear witness (by the HolySpirit), because [[[ye]]] have been with me from the beginning. Acts 12:24 But “The word” of God grew and multiplied. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj sorry but it does not say that we are preexisting our human live, again you do not let scriptures direct you , you do not make sens to me ;you argue with Mike on feminine and masculine wording,and now you take US” and YE”and turn it to the scriptures (whole) show me any man  that preexisted or being beside Jesus, written in the scriptures,and do not miss represent with what was FORETOLD BY GOD, Pierre

PIERRE,

Then “The Word” of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; (Jer.1:4-5)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

edj

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PIERRE, Then “The Word” of the LORD came unto me, saying, Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; (Jer.1:4-5) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

is this your prove of the preexistence of Jeremiah ?

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2011,20:27)

edj Quote PIERRE, Then “The Word” of the LORD came unto me, saying, Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; (Jer.1:4-5) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) is this your prove of the preexistence of Jeremiah ? Pierre

PIERRE,

Do you say it means something else, if so what?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 09 2011,03:31)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2011,20:27) edj Quote PIERRE, Then “The Word” of the LORD came unto me, saying, Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; (Jer.1:4-5) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) is this your prove of the preexistence of Jeremiah ? Pierre PIERRE, Do you say it means something else, if so what? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

Jer 1:4 The word of the LORD came to me, saying,
Jer 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,
before you were born I set you apart;
I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
Jer 1:6 “Ah, Sovereign LORD,” I said, “I do not know how to speak; I am only a child.”
Jer 1:7 But the LORD said to me, “Do not say, ‘I am only a child.’ You must go to everyone I send you to and say whatever I command you.
Jer 1:8 Do not be afraid of them, for I am with you and will rescue you,” declares the LORD.
Jer 1:9 Then the LORD reached out his hand and touched my mouth and said to me, “Now, I have put my words in your mouth.
Jer 1:10 See, today I appoint you over nations and kingdoms to uproot and tear down, to destroy and overthrow, to build and to plant.”

Can God look in the future ? can God with his power do what it take to do and accomplish his will ?if so done to certain individual would that mean that what happen to one happen automatically to all ?Jeremiah was to me a good example of Christ to come and lead the nations of the world ,but this is my view and understanding ,

Pierre

[ftk]

Mike: You might want to carefully re-read Rev.20:12….I say the ''dead'' standing before the throne,……the books were opened…… ……..ANOTHER BOOK WAS OPENED,….. WHICH IS THE BOOK OF LIFE…….

…..the “dead” were judged according to what they had done(their works and deeds)as recorded in the books!!…….NOBODY IS JUDGED

FROM THE BOOK OF LIFE!!!……THEY ALREADY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE…..THEY DIED, LIKE PAUL, AND WERE RAISED TO NEW ''LIFE'' IN

CHRIST. NEW, CLEAN, FORGIVEN, WHOLE, PURE LIFE THROUGH THE WORD OF CHRIST FROM GOD….! WHATS TO JUDGE? PERFECTION?

THE ''DEAD'' (those dead in trespasses and sin thinking) ARE JUDGED…..NOT THOSE ALIVE IN CHRIST!….THERE COULD BE NO JUDGMENT BUT CLEAN, PERFECT, FORGIVEN, RIGHTEOUS!!

ONLY THE UNCLEAN, SIN THINKING, UN-WORTHY, UN-RIGHTEOUS, THOSE THAT ATTMPT TO WORK FOR THEIR PERFECTION AND DENY

THE GIFT OF GOD WILL BE JUDGED……Those in the Book of Life are those saved from judgment!

I know you may think I don't follow scriptures but I do. And in them if I look deep enough and hard enough there is absolute pure life

freely given to all who believe! God bless you my friend, TK

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