What is truth

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  • #240555
    karmarie
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    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 26 2011,20:39)

    Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 26 2011,05:23)
    SF, be quiet and try to listen to those who you may actually learn things from. Pay attention.


    I rather listen to God alone than those who pretend to have Truth Karmarie.  

    Maybe you should shy your ear away from Ja and have some liberty in your mind, becasue you know the truth can set you free.


    SF, There is thing's I learnt off JA, and there is thing's I can show him. None of us are perfect.

    I have been returning to what I used to be, and how I used to see, and it takes time, it hasn't been easy.

    I learnt some thing's off Wispring and from Pace E Amore, which is why I said to you, pay attention, you may learn something.

    You need to be carefull who you mix with.

    #240558
    Wispring
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    Hi Everyone,
    Want to know what I believe is important? Learning the things truthful from what Jesus said. How about we try this for a while. Post Scripture where Jesus said something and speak our minds about it, comment on it, share how the things he said have affected our lifes and so forth. What do you say?
    We could start from Matthew 1:1 and just go forward from there. Not the things the writer said. The things Jesus said. OK?

    Love and Respect,
    Wispring

    #240559
    karmarie
    Participant

    Jesus only words.

    Good idea Wispring. The truth of Jesus that may set us free. (without all the interpretations on it).

    Funny thing, I used to be able to make sense of things so easilly, but in the past 6 months theres like this blank there, and it's not getting through like it used to. I think I just lack sleep is what everyone tells me. Or something.

    #240567
    kerwin
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    Quote (Wispring @ Mar. 26 2011,12:10)
    :( didn't do my html quotes right hope it is still understandable.


    I read and understood it.   I do my html quotes by hand as I have difficulties with the tools provided.

    I seek God’s guidance in all things and he gives good things to those who seek his righteousness .

    #240568
    Wispring
    Participant

    Hi Karmarie,

    Yes, you might say I was inspired. :) . Just an observation and a feeling here. There seems to be a ego-based almost angry confrontational feeling in the communications of some people that use this web-site. My impression is that the way Jesus taught and my own mother taught, namely, do unto others as you would have them do unto you is not expressed in them. This bible-talk subject I am presenting, will, I hope help that level of personal interaction be “born again from above” as it were.
    My advise, if you are tired, then sleep. You did not say what is not getting through like it used to. If it is something that you want to get through as it used to Jesus taught us to pray to God for a thing and to fully believe that it will happen, then, it will happen.

    Love and Respect,
    Wispring

    #240569
    karmarie
    Participant

    Wispring, there has been. Sometimes on here I was so upset and felt so humiliated that I was in tears to God because I felt so hurt spritually. Which is why I say life in reality is easier to me. I have had hard times but got through it and I believe everything has its reason.

    And we never know whats going on. My thoughts feeling blank I think is spiritual but it could also be medical. I havent been to a doctor in years. But I have been praying lately that I get back to what I used to be and have, which was often amazing thoughts of God, without the confusion. You have a peace about you and it gives me hope.

    Thankyou.

    #240573
    Wispring
    Participant

    Hi Karmarie,
    Try walks in the fresh air by a lake or stream. Alone or with a friend. Do activities that you are aware bring you a feeling of joy or peace. Thank God silently or out loud for the opportunity to have the life to be able to have these experiences. Out loud is sometimes more fun and satisfying:) . Watch a movie that makes you laugh. Sing a silly non-sense song. Reaffirm to yourself that your God is not a God of confusion and let God be God within you. bida-be, bida-be, bida-be, that's all folks!(weak porky the pig imitaion).

    With Love and Respect,
    Wispring

    #240578
    karmarie
    Participant

    Wispring, you are a blessing. I was praying before and I know now that it is medical, I need to see a doctor. I was in tears and thank you. It's probably a bit of both but I need to sort that out first.

    Thankyou. I mean that.

    #240580
    kerwin
    Participant

    Wispring,

    The four gospels are biographies, a written account of Jesus' life.  The purpose was not to teach the gospel of Christ but only to tell the life story of the Anointed.

    There is no scripture that was meant to tell the gospel from first to last but all together the gospel can be derived from scriptures; even the words of Jesus' students.

    Jesus stated that he did not come to bring peace but rather the sword where 2 in a house will be against three.  Sadly that will happen to show who is aproved by God.

    #240581
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 26 2011,17:09)
    Wispring, you are a blessing. I was praying before and I know now that it is medical, I need to see a doctor. I was in tears and thank you. It's probably a bit of both but I need to sort that out first.

    Thankyou. I mean that.


    It is good to see a doctor but pray about it as well since the doctor works in vain if God is not with him.

    #240583
    Baker
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 24 2011,13:36)
    Fair enough Wispring.

    You be “gentle Jesus”, and I'll be the Jesus that kicked some serious buyer and seller butt in God's temple.  :)   To each his own.  

    Little kids immediately know that the Son OF God can't be the God he is the Son OF.  And it makes me very angry that these Trinitarians brainwash them into accepting something that goes against every ounce of common sense that God gave them.  And eventually they just accept because “Pastor says so”.

    What percent of Christians today are Trinitarians?  90%?  What percent of those are basing that belief solely on the words of their Pastors?  99%?

    My son's mom is a Trinitarian solely for the reason that “Pastor says so”.  She wouldn't ever listen to anything I had to say on that subject, (or any other subject, really :) ) until a couple of weeks ago.  I guess she was like the teachers in John 12:42.  But when she finally let me speak about it, all it took was me showing her John 17:3 and 1 Cor 8:6 to open her eyes.  I could see the lightbulb of realization reflected in her face.  But an instant later, her face changed to that of one who knows they have been duped for a long time.  Her face was twisted, confused, and sad all at the same time.  And she just walked away from me.

    My point is that I don't think it would take much to convince people how unscriptural and illogical the trinity doctrine is.  But how can we reach them all?

    mike


    Hi Mike! right on, it is by the grace of God that He called us out of the Catholic Church.  Georg was 47 and I was 46.  We both got sprinkled(Catholic Baptism) as Babies.  When we left the Catholic Church we joined the W.W. church of God.  There we were baptized according to scripture.  All the way under water.  Then our Minister layed hands on us, and we received Gods Holy Spirit.
    The next day was amazing for me. I used such foul cuss words.  And every time I did, the Holy Spirit made me aware of it….Little by little i have overcome some of those habits which I was not even aware of.  And every time I asked God please show me my faults He did big times.  Now He does it even without asking Him.  We are forever thankful to God that He called us out of that Church.
    Unfortunately the W<W< Church of God has gone back in believing in the trinity, and we have stayed home since 1994-95.  God has shown us so many new things its amazing.  
    The preexisting is the last one…..wonder whats next!!!!!!
    Whatever it is, we will always follow our WONDERFUL ALMIGHTY GOD and HIS SON into all eternity….Amen

    Peace and Love Irene
    PS And I can't wait for that to happen…..

    #240584
    karmarie
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 27 2011,01:12)

    Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 26 2011,17:09)
    Wispring, you are a blessing. I was praying before and I know now that it is medical, I need to see a doctor. I was in tears and thank you. It's probably a bit of both but I need to sort that out first.

    Thankyou. I mean that.


    It is good to see a doctor but pray about it as well since the doctor works in vain if God is not with him.


    I know Kerwin. I did that just before. I used to live with a bit of a hypochondriac. So, whenever anything was wrong with me I just toughed it. Take a few painkillers and carry on. Sometimes though, we need a doctor.

    Thanks Kerwin. :)

    #240585
    karmarie
    Participant

    And I hope your doing well too Kerwin. After what you went through.

    #240588
    Wispring
    Participant

    Kerwin,
    So should I understand that you choose not to do something like I presented?

    Love and Respect,
    Wispring

    #240593
    karmarie
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 27 2011,01:11)
    Wispring,

    The four gospels are biographies, a written account of Jesus' life.  The purpose was not to teach the gospel of Christ but only to tell the life story of the Anointed.

    There is no scripture that was meant to tell the gospel from first to last but all together the gospel can be derived from scriptures; even the words of Jesus' students.

    Jesus stated that he did not come to bring peace but rather the sword where 2 in a house will be against three.  Sadly that will happen to show who is aproved by God.


    Jesus said “The words I speak are not my own but the Father's.” John 8:28

    Jesus said, “Everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts upon them will be like a wise man who built his house upon the rock. And the rain fell and the floods came and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall”. Mathew 7:28.29

    John 5:63 “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.”

    John 5:66  ” Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life,  and we have believed, and have come to know, that you are the Holy One of God.”

    #240630
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    There is no Peace in Contradicting beliefs, ideas, or doctrines. Its either you are or you are not, You are either Hot or cold.
    To settle for less is the death of Truth it self.

    The only way that can be accomplish is by denying ourselves
    Come as who you are truly and not who you pretend to be

    #240631
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 26 2011,12:40)

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 26 2011,20:39)

    Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 26 2011,05:23)
    SF, be quiet and try to listen to those who you may actually learn things from. Pay attention.


    I rather listen to God alone than those who pretend to have Truth Karmarie.  

    Maybe you should shy your ear away from Ja and have some liberty in your mind, becasue you know the truth can set you free.


    SF, There is thing's I learnt off JA, and there is thing's I can show him. None of us are perfect.

    I have been returning to what I used to be, and how I used to see, and it takes time, it hasn't been easy.

    I learnt some thing's off Wispring and from Pace E Amore, which is why I said to you, pay attention, you may learn something.

    You need to be carefull who you mix with.


    Maybe you should seek solitude with the Lord instead of listening to the Imaginations of Men

    #240656
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Wispring @ Mar. 26 2011,02:05)
    Hi Everyone,
      Want to know what I believe is important? Learning the things truthful from what Jesus said. How about we try this for a while. Post Scripture where Jesus said something and speak our minds about it, comment on it, share how the things he said have affected our lifes and so forth. What do you say?
    We could start from Matthew 1:1 and just go forward from there. Not the things the writer said. The things Jesus said. OK?

                                                        Love and Respect,
                                                           Wispring


    I like it. Start a thread, Wispring. :)

    mike

    #240759
    Wispring
    Participant

    Hi Mike,
    OK.:)
    Wispring

    #240784
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 26 2011,17:31)
    And I hope your doing well too Kerwin. After what you went through.


    For the most part I am doing well except for some lingering side effects that are more a nuisance than anything else. We all are tested in many ways and this is part of my cross to bear. So be it as God is just and loving.

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