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- March 24, 2011 at 2:36 am#240260mikeboll64Blocked
Fair enough Wispring.
You be “gentle Jesus”, and I'll be the Jesus that kicked some serious buyer and seller butt in God's temple. To each his own.
Little kids immediately know that the Son OF God can't be the God he is the Son OF. And it makes me very angry that these Trinitarians brainwash them into accepting something that goes against every ounce of common sense that God gave them. And eventually they just accept because “Pastor says so”.
What percent of Christians today are Trinitarians? 90%? What percent of those are basing that belief solely on the words of their Pastors? 99%?
My son's mom is a Trinitarian solely for the reason that “Pastor says so”. She wouldn't ever listen to anything I had to say on that subject, (or any other subject, really ) until a couple of weeks ago. I guess she was like the teachers in John 12:42. But when she finally let me speak about it, all it took was me showing her John 17:3 and 1 Cor 8:6 to open her eyes. I could see the lightbulb of realization reflected in her face. But an instant later, her face changed to that of one who knows they have been duped for a long time. Her face was twisted, confused, and sad all at the same time. And she just walked away from me.
My point is that I don't think it would take much to convince people how unscriptural and illogical the trinity doctrine is. But how can we reach them all?
mike
March 24, 2011 at 2:42 am#240263WispringParticipantHi Mike,
Just keep doing what you are doing in that respect. Good news travels as fast as bad news in todays' world.
With Love and Respect,
WispringMarch 24, 2011 at 2:50 am#240264mikeboll64BlockedThanks.
March 24, 2011 at 7:45 am#240308SimplyForgivenParticipantWispring,
We will see more of what your really all about later, Im sure of it.March 24, 2011 at 8:09 am#240312WispringParticipantHi SF,
Peace be upon you.Everytime you read one of my posts you see what I am really about. I am a follower of Jesus Christ. I am here to learn more about scripture. I hope the things that I type in my posts reflect I am a follower of Jesus Christ.With Love and Respect,
WispringMarch 24, 2011 at 10:19 am#240332Tim KraftParticipantQuote (kerwin @ Mar. 23 2011,17:28) To all, Love does not tolerate (reconize and respect) sin though it does suffer(endure as pain) it in oneself and others.
Kerwin: Love endureth all things. You are correct that love does not recognize or respect sin. There is no sin in love/God.
There is no sin/darkness in God.God cleansed us with his words through Jesus. Our sin has been washed away.
The light from Jesus has removed all darkness/sin beliefs, wihin us.
Jesus taketh away the sin of the whole world.
One who sinneth or believes he is in sin has no part in God!
God dwells within us. God cannot dwell in sin.
Are we not the holy temple of God. There is no sin in the new temple of God made without hands. US!
You are a perfect son of God, cleanses of sin, healed and made whole through Jesus. If you reach out by faith and grab it and hold on to it, by faith(refusing to disbelieve) IMO, TKMarch 25, 2011 at 6:30 am#240444SimplyForgivenParticipantQuote (Wispring @ Mar. 24 2011,13:09) Hi SF,
Peace be upon you.Everytime you read one of my posts you see what I am really about. I am a follower of Jesus Christ. I am here to learn more about scripture. I hope the things that I type in my posts reflect I am a follower of Jesus Christ.With Love and Respect,
Wispring
what peace? You reveal very little about yourself in your posts. Everyone says they are a follower of christ, that doesnt raelly mean you are one. You shouldnt be here if you would want to learn scripture, you would be in suplication to the Father if that were true. They dont reflect that at all.Dude be yourself and stop with all the niceness.
You are not perfect, and I know you have flaws.So therefore expose yourself, rather to be exposed
You dont have to respect me nor love me if you feel obligated to by your religious views.
Like I said before, your eventually going to open up more than your letting on.
March 25, 2011 at 7:30 am#240448WispringParticipantHi SF,
This peace:Quote Matthew 10:12-14 (King James Version) 12And when ye come into an house, salute it.
13And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.
14And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
I don't have to like you, yet, I still love you.Quote Ephesians 4:29 (King James Version) 29Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
I choose to walk with God and Jesus Christ to the best of my abilities. I cannot make your choices for you.With Love and Respect,
WispringMarch 25, 2011 at 7:49 am#240454kerwinParticipantSimply Forgiven,
One way I learn is through debating ideas but I trust in God to lead me to what is true during them. I also pray for guidance and test the spirit to see if it is the spirit of righteousness that I hear.
God uses many tools to teach us.
March 25, 2011 at 6:46 pm#240505SimplyForgivenParticipantQuote (Wispring @ Mar. 25 2011,12:30) Hi SF,
This peace:Quote Matthew 10:12-14 (King James Version) 12And when ye come into an house, salute it.
13And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.
14And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
I don't have to like you, yet, I still love you.Quote Ephesians 4:29 (King James Version) 29Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
I choose to walk with God and Jesus Christ to the best of my abilities. I cannot make your choices for you.With Love and Respect,
Wispring
I dont find your peace worthy so let it return to you.about not liking someone and still loving them is not biblical.
to walk with God is not out of your own choice but because he draws men near.
March 25, 2011 at 9:49 pm#240509karmarieParticipantSF
Quote stop with all the niceness. You want him to be like you and your lot? No need to answer. By the way.
March 25, 2011 at 10:18 pm#240516ProclaimerParticipantStop with the niceness, we all know we are wretched and shouldn't even try.
Is that it?
March 25, 2011 at 10:43 pm#240519kerwinParticipantWispring,
You wrote:
Quote I choose to walk with God and Jesus Christ to the best of my abilities. If that is the truth then you are doomed to always fall short of the glory of God. It is not the best of our abilities that we seek to be like God in true holiness and righteousness but it is the best of God's abilities that we will both seek and obtain it. This can only be done if we believe and do all Jesus teaches us.
March 25, 2011 at 11:44 pm#240526terrariccaParticipantQuote (kerwin @ Mar. 26 2011,16:43) Wispring, You wrote:
Quote I choose to walk with God and Jesus Christ to the best of my abilities. If that is the truth then you are doomed to always fall short of the glory of God. It is not the best of our abilities that we seek to be like God in true holiness and righteousness but it is the best of God's abilities that we will both seek and obtain it. This can only be done if we believe and do all Jesus teaches us.
KerwinQuote This can only be done if we believe and do all Jesus teaches us. this is true ,but you only can truly believe what you really understand is it not
and so it is in practice unless you understand clearly so that you can apply what you have learn ,
many of us including myself we all progress to the full light of Christ,some are just a little closer than others,
but they remain humble and so nothing of a difference is noted.
we all running to win at the end and we will if we stay focus on the light.
Pierre
March 26, 2011 at 12:07 am#240531SimplyForgivenParticipantQuote (karmarie @ Mar. 26 2011,02:49) SF Quote stop with all the niceness. You want him to be like you and your lot? No need to answer. By the way.
your question doesnt make any sense By the way.And Karmarie, dont try to jump and make a quick burn and try to escape. When you play with fire, all your going to do is get burn.
Be Genuinly nice as you always are,
March 26, 2011 at 12:08 am#240532SimplyForgivenParticipantQuote (t8 @ Mar. 26 2011,03:18) Stop with the niceness, we all know we are wretched and shouldn't even try. Is that it?
BasicallyMarch 26, 2011 at 12:23 am#240538karmarieParticipantSF, be quiet and try to listen to those who you may actually learn things from. Pay attention.
March 26, 2011 at 6:09 am#240550WispringParticipantHi Kerwin,
Quote If that is the truth then you are doomed to always fall short of the glory of God. It is not the best of our abilities that we seek to be like God in true holiness and righteousness but it is the best of God's abilities that we will both seek and obtain it. This can only be done if we believe and do all Jesus teaches us. Yes that is the truth, all glory goes to and is given from God alone.
Psalm 62:7
In God is my salvation and my glory: the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God.
Sounds like something Jesus or anyone in the spirit of truth would say.Quote Psalm 79:9
Help us, O God of our salvation, for the glory of thy name: and deliver us, and purge away our sins, for thy name's sake.
I just like this one.Quote Romans 5:1-3 (King James Version) Romans 5
1Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:2By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
3And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
I would rather have said we persevere in tribulations since all Glory proceeds from and is given by God alone.Quote Romans 15:6-8 (King James Version) 6That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
7Wherefore receive ye one another, as Christ also received us to the glory of God.
I really, really, really love what our brother Jesus did and still does for us.Quote 1 Thessalonians 2:12
That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.
Doing the best I can God! Help me some more! I pray thee!Quote 1 Peter 2:20
For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.
I am so very glad that God is merciful, kind and just.With Love and Respect,
WispringMarch 26, 2011 at 6:10 am#240551WispringParticipantdidn't do my html quotes right hope it is still understandable.
March 26, 2011 at 6:39 am#240553SimplyForgivenParticipantQuote (karmarie @ Mar. 26 2011,05:23) SF, be quiet and try to listen to those who you may actually learn things from. Pay attention.
I rather listen to God alone than those who pretend to have Truth Karmarie.Maybe you should shy your ear away from Ja and have some liberty in your mind, becasue you know the truth can set you free.
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