What is the spirit against gods spirit ?

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  • #200999
    terraricca
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    all

    if it is difficult to understand what is the spirit of God ,it could be made easier if we compere it with his opposite.(what it is not)

    like the spirit of the world;
    the spirit of wickedness;
    1Ki 22:21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, ‘I will entice him.’

    Ps 32:2 Blessed is the man
    whose sin the LORD does not count against him
    and in whose spirit is no deceit

    Ps 51:10 Create in me a pure heart, O God,
    and renew a steadfast spirit within me.

    Ps 106:33 for they rebelled against the Spirit of God,

    this is just the start;

    Pierre

    #201108
    terraricca
    Participant

    all

    no interest in the spirit ,only in the flesh i guess

    Pierre

    #201110
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    The Spirit?
    It is the life and nature and abilities of God

    #201121
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 01 2010,12:38)
    Hi T,
    The Spirit?
    It is the life and nature and abilities of God


    nick

    so the spirit of God is everything except wickedness.

    Pierre

    #201122
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    God is not everything.
    He is the father of lights and the father of spirits

    #201140
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 01 2010,13:04)
    Hi T,
    God is not everything.
    He is the father of lights and the father of spirits


    Nick

    show me that he is not everything

    tell me were and what he is not

    Pierre

    #201169
    kerwin
    Participant

    Pierre,

    1 King 22:21 is speaking of a demon who is called a spirit because he is a denizen of the spirit world.  Even the demons serve God though they do so in a underhanded and evil way as they intend wickedness while God intends righteousnes.  It is always God's intentions that are victorious though the demons believe they win they win at times but their victories are either over the children of the evil one or they are temporary.

    Psalms 32:2 on the other hand is speaking of the spirit of a man and thus an impure spirit as deceit is an impurity.  

    The demon become a lying spirit by tempting the advisors to lie and it is the deceit within their spirit that gives into that temptation.  The advisors could be said to be demon influenced or demon possesed depending how you understand those terms.

    Your fellow student,

    Kerwin

    #201238
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ July 01 2010,20:01)
    Pierre,

    1 King 22:21 is speaking of a demon who is called a spirit because he is a denizen of the spirit world.  Even the demons serve God though they do so in a underhanded and evil way as they intend wickedness while God intends righteousnes.  It is always God's intentions that are victorious though the demons believe they win they win at times but their victories are either over the children of the evil one or they are temporary.

    Psalms 32:2 on the other hand is speaking of the spirit of a man and thus an impure spirit as deceit is an impurity.  

    The demon become a lying spirit by tempting the advisors to lie and it is the deceit within their spirit that gives into that temptation.  The advisors could be said to be demon influenced or demon possesed depending how you understand those terms.

    Your fellow student,

    Kerwin


    Kerwin

    do you read my quotes?? ,because it seams you do not.

    i say;God is everything except wickedness.

    Pierre

    #201342
    Arnold
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2010,01:52)
    all

    if it is difficult to understand what is the spirit of God ,it could be made easier if we compere it with his opposite.(what it is not)

    like the spirit of the world;
    the spirit of wickedness;
    1Ki 22:21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, ‘I will entice him.’

    Ps 32:2 Blessed is the man
    whose sin the LORD does not count against him
    and in whose spirit is no deceit

    Ps 51:10 Create in me a pure heart, O God,
    and renew a steadfast spirit within me.

    Ps 106:33 for they rebelled against the Spirit of God,

    this is just the start;

    Pierre


    What is “your” spirit, or what is it not?

    #201354
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Arnold @ July 02 2010,22:58)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2010,01:52)
    all

    if it is difficult to understand what is the spirit of God ,it could be made easier if we compere it with his opposite.(what it is not)

    like the spirit of the world;
    the spirit of wickedness;
    1Ki 22:21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, ‘I will entice him.’

    Ps 32:2 Blessed is the man
    whose sin the LORD does not count against him
    and in whose spirit is no deceit

    Ps 51:10 Create in me a pure heart, O God,
    and renew a steadfast spirit within me.

    Ps 106:33 for they rebelled against the Spirit of God,

    this is just the start;

    Pierre


    What is “your” spirit, or what is it not?


    hi Irene/gorge

    this question is a good one but can we apply it to God?

    many are saying god is everywhere and in everything how would that be ?

    if we apply your kind of thinking it would mean that ,you can have children but not be them,or very little only in essence, is it ??

    this would mean that we all would be separated and independent from our father in heaven,but yet having similar qualities.

    this configuration would make more sense is it??

    Pierre

    #201403
    Arnold
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 03 2010,01:22)

    Quote (Arnold @ July 02 2010,22:58)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2010,01:52)
    all

    if it is difficult to understand what is the spirit of God ,it could be made easier if we compere it with his opposite.(what it is not)

    like the spirit of the world;
    the spirit of wickedness;
    1Ki 22:21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, ‘I will entice him.’

    Ps 32:2 Blessed is the man
    whose sin the LORD does not count against him
    and in whose spirit is no deceit

    Ps 51:10 Create in me a pure heart, O God,
    and renew a steadfast spirit within me.

    Ps 106:33 for they rebelled against the Spirit of God,

    this is just the start;

    Pierre


    What is “your” spirit, or what is it not?


    hi Irene/gorge

    this question is a good one but can we apply it to God?

    many are saying god is everywhere and in everything how would that be ?

    if we apply your kind of thinking it would mean that ,you can have children but not be them,or very little only in essence, is it ??

    this would mean that we all would be separated and independent from our father in heaven,but yet having similar qualities.

    this configuration would make more sense is it??

    Pierre


    What is scripture, or what is it not?

    #201428
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Arnold @ July 03 2010,12:23)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 03 2010,01:22)

    Quote (Arnold @ July 02 2010,22:58)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2010,01:52)
    all

    if it is difficult to understand what is the spirit of God ,it could be made easier if we compere it with his opposite.(what it is not)

    like the spirit of the world;
    the spirit of wickedness;
    1Ki 22:21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, ‘I will entice him.’

    Ps 32:2 Blessed is the man
    whose sin the LORD does not count against him
    and in whose spirit is no deceit

    Ps 51:10 Create in me a pure heart, O God,
    and renew a steadfast spirit within me.

    Ps 106:33 for they rebelled against the Spirit of God,

    this is just the start;

    Pierre


    What is “your” spirit, or what is it not?


    hi Irene/gorge

    this question is a good one but can we apply it to God?

    many are saying god is everywhere and in everything how would that be ?

    if we apply your kind of thinking it would mean that ,you can have children but not be them,or very little only in essence, is it ??

    this would mean that we all would be separated and independent from our father in heaven,but yet having similar qualities.

    this configuration would make more sense is it??

    Pierre


    What is scripture, or what is it not?


    arnold

    scriptures are written words ,they are the best of all thoughts ,reasons,hope,wisdom,love,in one word LIVE,

    without the scriptures it would be a dark world,this is the reason why God let Satan live so that the light of God can be seen and so men can receive live,trough his words.then receive the spirit.(no one can receive the spirit of someone he does not know.)

    God know what we need ,but most of us figure that they know better,so they look for themselves in greed,corruption,murder,profanity,deceit,ego,sexual perversion,ect.

    they will succeed for a while ,to allow the separation of the weeds and the weath

    Pierre

    #201468
    Arnold
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 03 2010,17:04)

    Quote (Arnold @ July 03 2010,12:23)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 03 2010,01:22)

    Quote (Arnold @ July 02 2010,22:58)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2010,01:52)
    all

    if it is difficult to understand what is the spirit of God ,it could be made easier if we compere it with his opposite.(what it is not)

    like the spirit of the world;
    the spirit of wickedness;
    1Ki 22:21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, ‘I will entice him.’

    Ps 32:2 Blessed is the man
    whose sin the LORD does not count against him
    and in whose spirit is no deceit

    Ps 51:10 Create in me a pure heart, O God,
    and renew a steadfast spirit within me.

    Ps 106:33 for they rebelled against the Spirit of God,

    this is just the start;

    Pierre


    What is “your” spirit, or what is it not?


    hi Irene/gorge

    this question is a good one but can we apply it to God?

    many are saying god is everywhere and in everything how would that be ?

    if we apply your kind of thinking it would mean that ,you can have children but not be them,or very little only in essence, is it ??

    this would mean that we all would be separated and independent from our father in heaven,but yet having similar qualities.

    this configuration would make more sense is it??

    Pierre


    What is scripture, or what is it not?


    arnold

    scriptures are written words ,they are the best of all thoughts ,reasons,hope,wisdom,love,in one word LIVE,

    without the scriptures it would be a dark world,this is the reason why God let Satan live so that the light of God can be seen and so men can receive live,trough his words.then receive the spirit.(no one can receive the spirit of someone he does not know.)

    God know what we need ,but most of us figure that they know better,so they look for themselves in greed,corruption,murder,profanity,deceit,ego,sexual perversion,ect.

    they will succeed for a while ,to allow the separation of the weeds and the weath

    Pierre


    Scriptures are the words of God, they show us the Spirit/mind of God.
    The words YOU write down, show us the spirit/mind of YOU.

    #201473
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Arnold……….Georg or Irene………….Right on, couldn't have said it better myself.

    Peace and love to you Both………………………….gene

    #201486
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Arnold @ July 04 2010,00:24)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 03 2010,17:04)

    Quote (Arnold @ July 03 2010,12:23)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 03 2010,01:22)

    Quote (Arnold @ July 02 2010,22:58)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2010,01:52)
    all

    if it is difficult to understand what is the spirit of God ,it could be made easier if we compere it with his opposite.(what it is not)

    like the spirit of the world;
    the spirit of wickedness;
    1Ki 22:21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, ‘I will entice him.’

    Ps 32:2 Blessed is the man
    whose sin the LORD does not count against him
    and in whose spirit is no deceit

    Ps 51:10 Create in me a pure heart, O God,
    and renew a steadfast spirit within me.

    Ps 106:33 for they rebelled against the Spirit of God,

    this is just the start;

    Pierre


    What is “your” spirit, or what is it not?


    hi Irene/gorge

    this question is a good one but can we apply it to God?

    many are saying god is everywhere and in everything how would that be ?

    if we apply your kind of thinking it would mean that ,you can have children but not be them,or very little only in essence, is it ??

    this would mean that we all would be separated and independent from our father in heaven,but yet having similar qualities.

    this configuration would make more sense is it??

    Pierre


    What is scripture, or what is it not?


    arnold

    scriptures are written words ,they are the best of all thoughts ,reasons,hope,wisdom,love,in one word LIVE,

    without the scriptures it would be a dark world,this is the reason why God let Satan live so that the light of God can be seen and so men can receive live,trough his words.then receive the spirit.(no one can receive the spirit of someone he does not know.)

    God know what we need ,but most of us figure that they know better,so they look for themselves in greed,corruption,murder,profanity,deceit,ego,sexual perversion,ect.

    they will succeed for a while ,to allow the separation of the weeds and the weath

    Pierre


    Scriptures are the words of God, they show us the Spirit/mind of God.
    The words YOU write down, show us the spirit/mind of YOU.


    hi

    well there you have it ,even some support,be now content.

    Pierre

    #201575
    Arnold
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 04 2010,02:36)

    Quote (Arnold @ July 04 2010,00:24)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 03 2010,17:04)

    Quote (Arnold @ July 03 2010,12:23)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 03 2010,01:22)

    Quote (Arnold @ July 02 2010,22:58)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2010,01:52)
    all

    if it is difficult to understand what is the spirit of God ,it could be made easier if we compere it with his opposite.(what it is not)

    like the spirit of the world;
    the spirit of wickedness;
    1Ki 22:21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, ‘I will entice him.’

    Ps 32:2 Blessed is the man
    whose sin the LORD does not count against him
    and in whose spirit is no deceit

    Ps 51:10 Create in me a pure heart, O God,
    and renew a steadfast spirit within me.

    Ps 106:33 for they rebelled against the Spirit of God,

    this is just the start;

    Pierre


    What is “your” spirit, or what is it not?


    hi Irene/gorge

    this question is a good one but can we apply it to God?

    many are saying god is everywhere and in everything how would that be ?

    if we apply your kind of thinking it would mean that ,you can have children but not be them,or very little only in essence, is it ??

    this would mean that we all would be separated and independent from our father in heaven,but yet having similar qualities.

    this configuration would make more sense is it??

    Pierre


    What is scripture, or what is it not?


    arnold

    scriptures are written words ,they are the best of all thoughts ,reasons,hope,wisdom,love,in one word LIVE,

    without the scriptures it would be a dark world,this is the reason why God let Satan live so that the light of God can be seen and so men can receive live,trough his words.then receive the spirit.(no one can receive the spirit of someone he does not know.)

    God know what we need ,but most of us figure that they know better,so they look for themselves in greed,corruption,murder,profanity,deceit,ego,sexual perversion,ect.

    they will succeed for a while ,to allow the separation of the weeds and the weath

    Pierre


    Scriptures are the words of God, they show us the Spirit/mind of God.
    The words YOU write down, show us the spirit/mind of YOU.


    hi

    well there you have it ,even some support,be now content.

    Pierre


    Is this what you think, this is all about?

    #201579
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 04 2010,00:59)
    Arnold……….Georg or Irene………….Right on, couldn't have said it better myself.

    Peace and love to you Both………………………….gene


    Hi Gene,

    Don't you recognize Georg?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #201590
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Arnold @ July 04 2010,09:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 04 2010,02:36)

    Quote (Arnold @ July 04 2010,00:24)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 03 2010,17:04)

    Quote (Arnold @ July 03 2010,12:23)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 03 2010,01:22)

    Quote (Arnold @ July 02 2010,22:58)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2010,01:52)
    all

    if it is difficult to understand what is the spirit of God ,it could be made easier if we compere it with his opposite.(what it is not)

    like the spirit of the world;
    the spirit of wickedness;
    1Ki 22:21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, ‘I will entice him.’

    Ps 32:2 Blessed is the man
    whose sin the LORD does not count against him
    and in whose spirit is no deceit

    Ps 51:10 Create in me a pure heart, O God,
    and renew a steadfast spirit within me.

    Ps 106:33 for they rebelled against the Spirit of God,

    this is just the start;

    Pierre


    What is “your” spirit, or what is it not?


    hi Irene/gorge

    this question is a good one but can we apply it to God?

    many are saying god is everywhere and in everything how would that be ?

    if we apply your kind of thinking it would mean that ,you can have children but not be them,or very little only in essence, is it ??

    this would mean that we all would be separated and independent from our father in heaven,but yet having similar qualities.

    this configuration would make more sense is it??

    Pierre


    What is scripture, or what is it not?


    arnold

    scriptures are written words ,they are the best of all thoughts ,reasons,hope,wisdom,love,in one word LIVE,

    without the scriptures it would be a dark world,this is the reason why God let Satan live so that the light of God can be seen and so men can receive live,trough his words.then receive the spirit.(no one can receive the spirit of someone he does not know.)

    God know what we need ,but most of us figure that they know better,so they look for themselves in greed,corruption,murder,profanity,deceit,ego,sexual perversion,ect.

    they will succeed for a while ,to allow the separation of the weeds and the weath

    Pierre


    Scriptures are the words of God, they show us the Spirit/mind of God.
    The words YOU write down, show us the spirit/mind of YOU.


    hi

    well there you have it ,even some support,be now content.

    Pierre


    Is this what you think, this is all about?


    georg

    if you think i start a other conversation who will end up in personal naming,got it wrong.

    you have killed the rest of the conversation,with your bitterness.

    Pierre

    #204139
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2010,20:59)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 01 2010,12:38)
    Hi T,
    The Spirit?
    It is the life and nature and abilities of God


    nick

    so the spirit of God is everything except wickedness.

    Pierre


    Hi Pierre,

    If God created everything out of nothing then God is the catalyst or cause for everything that exists, no?

    Years ago I found one verse that said that God created evil or something to that effect….I couldn't find it, now.

    Also, knowledge is incomplete without evil (other counterpart being good).

    David

    #204148
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2010,09:52)
    all

    if it is difficult to understand what is the spirit of God ,it could be made easier if we compere it with his opposite.(what it is not)

    like the spirit of the world;
    the spirit of wickedness;
    1Ki 22:21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, ‘I will entice him.’

    Ps 32:2 Blessed is the man
    whose sin the LORD does not count against him
    and in whose spirit is no deceit

    Ps 51:10 Create in me a pure heart, O God,
    and renew a steadfast spirit within me.

    Ps 106:33 for they rebelled against the Spirit of God,

    this is just the start;

    Pierre


    Hi Pierre,

    This was an excellent reply:

    Scriptures are the words of God, they show us the Spirit/mind of God.
    The words YOU write down, show us the spirit/mind of YOU.

    Spirit = Ideas, authorities, powers, dominions
    Spirit = state of being (being in the spirit)
    Spirit = internal essences (soul, eternal spirit)
    Spirit = Proper noun (Holy Spirit)

    Each person has a physical body and each person has a spiritual body. Within our bodies we have our soul (mind) as stated above.

    Our spirit. Spirit of God. Spirit of Christ. Spirit of the Church…etc Thus we have individual spirits and a collective spirit.

    As brethren it is most important to adhere to the following:

    Eph 4:3 being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

    David

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