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- May 22, 2010 at 9:13 pm#191608GeneBalthropParticipant
David………….John 14:17……….Even the SPIRIT of Truth; whom the world cannot recieve; because it sees (it or him) Not Neither knows it or him: but you know It or him; because it or he dwells with you and Shall be (IN) You. That SPIRIT of GOD was Poured out onto them at Pentecost and went (INTO) them.
David it is time you start thinking for yourself instead of Just following your false teachers. IMO
Peace and love ……………………gene
May 23, 2010 at 7:08 pm#191673terrariccaParticipantQuote (kerwin @ May 22 2010,17:47) Georg, I agree that God breathed life into Adam and not Adam’s soul. It is only after Adam was alive that he was called a living soul and scripture elsewhere speaks of a soul dying, Psalms 56:13 and Revelations 16:3.
I also agree that soul is used to mean spirit on occasion.
I do not know that spirit means mind in some cases though you may be correct.
There is a scripture in Job, I think, that makes it seem that the spirit is the source of life but I cannot find it. If anyone knows it I would appreciate their input. Thank you.
kerwinlook at this scripture and tell me why is the end better?
Ecc 7:8 Better is the end of a thing than the beginning thereof: and the patient in spirit is better than the proud in spirit
Pierre
May 24, 2010 at 3:59 am#191702ArnoldParticipantQuote (kerwin @ May 22 2010,22:34) Georg, I do see where you are coming from but I do not like to jump to conclusions based on a few scriptures that may or may not be open to interpretation.
First mind is the word the translators chose to mean the same thing as the original writer meant but that does not mean they were correct.
Second I am not sure the people that time period mean the same thing when they speak of the mind that we mean today.
There may be a link between mind and spirit that does not necessary mean they are the same thing.
The translators are supposed to take the second item in account when translating. I was hoping to find the common Greek word that was translated to mind as a number are translated to the English word “mind”. I failed to isolate the one in the particular scripture you speak of or in others that seem to support the idea you advance.
You show something I believe most people exhibit when they read scripture; simply believing the truth.
In many cases scripture is simple to understand, but because of what they have heard others say, they doubt their own understanding.
Why not ask yourself; what makes sense?Georg
May 25, 2010 at 5:43 am#192115kerwinParticipantPierre,
I assume it is because it is over for either good or bad. Still there is somethings I enjoy the process like playing a game of baseball but I still like to win.
The secound half of that scripture is more understandable.
May 26, 2010 at 6:50 pm#192353NickHassanParticipantQuote (martian @ May 22 2010,11:40) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 09 2010,13:59) Hi M,
The flesh body is temporary so how can you say it is essential to being a person??
The spirit returns to God so how is it essential??
Scripture says that we will be changed from coruptable to incoruptable.
Our bodies will be changed not done away with.
Hi M,
We will be changed.
The incorruptible is put on OVER the corruptible.[1Cor15]May 26, 2010 at 10:30 pm#192382ArnoldParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2010,05:50) Quote (martian @ May 22 2010,11:40) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 09 2010,13:59) Hi M,
The flesh body is temporary so how can you say it is essential to being a person??
The spirit returns to God so how is it essential??
Scripture says that we will be changed from coruptable to incoruptable.
Our bodies will be changed not done away with.
Hi M,
We will be changed.
The incorruptible is put on OVER the corruptible.[1Cor15]
And you tell others to stick to scripture? were in the world did you read that? “”” The incorruptible is put on OVER the corruptible.[1Cor15]””, not in my Bible.Georg
May 26, 2010 at 10:53 pm#192390NickHassanParticipantHi Georg,
1Cor15.53
“For this perishable must PUT ON the imperishable, amd this mortal must PUT ON immortality.”May 27, 2010 at 2:07 pm#192469GeneBalthropParticipantNick……….”Put on” does not mean put over. That scripture simply means the Perishable will be (Changed into the IMPERISHABLE).
1 Cor 15: 51 BEHOLD. I show you an mystery; We shall not all sleep but we shall All be changed ..52..In a moment in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,and we shall be (CHANGED). 53..> For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
The term PUT ON only means Change NICK. IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………..gene
May 27, 2010 at 5:25 pm#192486ArnoldParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ May 28 2010,01:07) Nick……….”Put on” does not mean put over. That scripture simply means the Perishable will be (Changed into the IMPERISHABLE). 1 Cor 15: 51 BEHOLD. I show you an mystery; We shall not all sleep but we shall All be changed ..52..In a moment in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,and we shall be (CHANGED). 53..> For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
The term PUT ON only means Change NICK. IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………..gene
Gene, don't say, in my opinion, when you're right.
If you say, in my opinion, that shows you're not sure.
But you are right in the way you explained.Georg
May 27, 2010 at 7:57 pm#192500NickHassanParticipantHi georg,
In your opinion?May 27, 2010 at 10:04 pm#192514GeneBalthropParticipantNick……… And what i quoted was in the APOSTLES PAUL'S OPINION ALSO Right Nick, as well a Georg's and mine. The only odd balls opinion is your right Nick?.
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