What is a sodomite

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Journey,

Does not Jehovah impart his wisdom by the very word the comes out of his mouth?

Kerwin,

Yes he does. There is wisdom in his Word.

I believe that there is more wisdom in his works ,than in his words,

i do know that he teaches men some of his wisdom ,but his works are impossible to understand in their whole concept,

we still do not understand it today,

God works teach us wisdom

Psalms 119:130 The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.

Proverbs 1:23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

December 9, 2013 at 12:11 am#363436

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Mike, I don't think this is a stupid question, and it's got nothing to do with my bible versus your bible. It's a general question.

Can you please address this? Were there any other gods existing when God started creating?

I never said it was a stupid question, journey.

In fact, I can address it simply using YOUR understanding of the Word who “USED TO BE” God, coming out and being WITH God before all things were created.

Well? Was this “Word” still God Almighty Himself when God started creating all things? Or was this “Word” a DIFFERENT being who was WITH God when God started creating all things?

Mike

Please don't answer according to my understanding, it's just a simple question.

When God did this, was there any other gods present?

Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

December 9, 2013 at 12:13 am#363437

kerwin

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Journey,

Does not Jehovah impart his wisdom by the very word the comes out of his mouth?

Kerwin,

Yes he does. There is wisdom in his Word.

Journey,

I agree.

Is there a relationship in such a way that you cannot receive God's words without also receiving his wisdom.

December 9, 2013 at 12:16 am#363439

kerwin

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Journey,

Does not Jehovah impart his wisdom by the very word the comes out of his mouth?

Kerwin,

Yes he does. There is wisdom in his Word.

I believe that there is more wisdom in his works ,than in his words,

i do know that he teaches men some of his wisdom ,but his works are impossible to understand in their whole concept,

we still do not understand it today,

God works teach us wisdom

I hear your words.

December 9, 2013 at 12:52 am#363443

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Journey,

Does not Jehovah impart his wisdom by the very word the comes out of his mouth?

Kerwin,

Yes he does. There is wisdom in his Word.

Journey,

I agree.

Is there a relationship in such a way that you cannot receive God's words without also receiving his wisdom.

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Is there a relationship in such a way that you cannot receive God's words without also receiving his wisdom.

yes there is such a way ,otherwise the wise man could not become wiser,

their is no end to the knowledge of God or his son,

or there works

December 9, 2013 at 11:07 am#363476

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Journey,

Does not Jehovah impart his wisdom by the very word the comes out of his mouth?

Kerwin,

Yes he does. There is wisdom in his Word.

Journey,

I agree.

Is there a relationship in such a way that you cannot receive God's words without also receiving his wisdom.

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Is there a relationship in such a way that you cannot receive God's words without also receiving his wisdom.

yes there is such a way ,otherwise the wise man could not become wiser,

their is no end to the knowledge of God or his son,

or there works

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I believe that there is more wisdom in his works ,than in his words,

This is just your believe,but not true.
Have you seen all of Gods creation? NO.
SO HOW CAN YOU COME TO THAT CONCLUSION?
Dont you see that God's Words was JESUS?
Dont you understand that the SPIRIT OF THE WRITTEN WORD IS THE FLESH OF JESUS, and now: again the Word of God?

We are treading on parched ground,there is no water to be found. The rivers have gone dry,the pools have turned to swamps. Anyone tread on it will get stuck,and trapped.

wakeup.

December 9, 2013 at 2:33 pm#363482

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Journey,

Does not Jehovah impart his wisdom by the very word the comes out of his mouth?

Kerwin,

Yes he does. There is wisdom in his Word.

Journey,

I agree.

Is there a relationship in such a way that you cannot receive God's words without also receiving his wisdom.

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Is there a relationship in such a way that you cannot receive God's words without also receiving his wisdom.

yes there is such a way ,otherwise the wise man could not become wiser,

their is no end to the knowledge of God or his son,

or there works

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I believe that there is more wisdom in his works ,than in his words,

We are treading on parched ground,there is no water to be found. The rivers have gone dry,the pools have turned to swamps. Anyone tread on it will get stuck,and trapped.

wakeup.

you still do not understand scriptures ,i told you before words do not become flesh but beings do ,

and now does God speaks to us all personally i mean like to the Jews on mount Horeb,with Moses NO

but can you see and feel the works of GOD creation YES ,unless you are dead then you would not,

so then can you understand the wisdom of his works

Ro 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
Ro 1:21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Ro 1:22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
Ro 1:23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

December 9, 2013 at 3:14 pm#363492

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Journey,

Does not Jehovah impart his wisdom by the very word the comes out of his mouth?

Kerwin,

Yes he does. There is wisdom in his Word.

Journey,

I agree.

Is there a relationship in such a way that you cannot receive God's words without also receiving his wisdom.

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Is there a relationship in such a way that you cannot receive God's words without also receiving his wisdom.

yes there is such a way ,otherwise the wise man could not become wiser,

their is no end to the knowledge of God or his son,

or there works

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I believe that there is more wisdom in his works ,than in his words,

We are treading on parched ground,there is no water to be found. The rivers have gone dry,the pools have turned to swamps. Anyone tread on it will get stuck,and trapped.

wakeup.

you still do not understand scriptures ,i told you before words do not become flesh but beings do ,

and now does God speaks to us all personally i mean like to the Jews on mount Horeb,with Moses NO

but can you see and feel the works of GOD creation YES ,unless you are dead then you would not,

so then can you understand the wisdom of his works

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you still do not understand scriptures ,i told you before words do not become flesh but beings do

So you now believe that the Word is a being?

If you say that you have seen ALL of God's creation,then you are a liar. Because you have never seen heaven,paradise,angels
and all their dwellings. So how can you say that the creation has more knowledge than words?
Is the creation greater than the creator?

wakeup.

December 9, 2013 at 3:15 pm#363493

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Journey,

Does not Jehovah impart his wisdom by the very word the comes out of his mouth?

Kerwin,

Yes he does. There is wisdom in his Word.

Journey,

I agree.

Is there a relationship in such a way that you cannot receive God's words without also receiving his wisdom.

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Is there a relationship in such a way that you cannot receive God's words without also receiving his wisdom.

yes there is such a way ,otherwise the wise man could not become wiser,

their is no end to the knowledge of God or his son,

or there works

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I believe that there is more wisdom in his works ,than in his words,

We are treading on parched ground,there is no water to be found. The rivers have gone dry,the pools have turned to swamps. Anyone tread on it will get stuck,and trapped.

wakeup.

you still do not understand scriptures ,i told you before words do not become flesh but beings do ,

and now does God speaks to us all personally i mean like to the Jews on mount Horeb,with Moses NO

but can you see and feel the works of GOD creation YES ,unless you are dead then you would not,

so then can you understand the wisdom of his works

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you still do not understand scriptures ,i told you before words do not become flesh but beings do

So you now believe that the Word is a being?

wakeup.

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If you say that you have seen ALL of God's creation,then you are a liar

WHERE AND WHEN DID i SAY THIS YOU ARE A FALSE WITNESS ,

December 9, 2013 at 3:20 pm#363494

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So you now believe that the Word is a being?

IN JOHN 1;1 YES AND JOHN 1;14 YES BECAUSE THE words “THE WORD ” IS THE NAME OF GOD'S SON HIS FIRST BORN ,BRING FORTH,CREATED,

Phil 2:6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing,
taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
Phil 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to death—
even death on a cross!

December 9, 2013 at 5:53 pm#363512

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So you now believe that the Word is a being?

IN JOHN 1;1 YES AND JOHN 1;14 YES BECAUSE THE words “THE WORD ” IS THE NAME OF GOD'S SON HIS FIRST BORN ,BRING FORTH,CREATED,

You have not read my post explaining the three stages of the Word of God.
Or you still can not understand.

wakeup.

December 9, 2013 at 8:04 pm#363527

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So you now believe that the Word is a being?

IN JOHN 1;1 YES AND JOHN 1;14 YES BECAUSE THE words “THE WORD ” IS THE NAME OF GOD'S SON HIS FIRST BORN ,BRING FORTH,CREATED,

You have not read my post explaining the three stages of the Word of God.
Or you still can not understand.

wakeup.

their are no stages ,THE WORD of God is his only begotten son ,first of creation .

December 10, 2013 at 12:08 am#363541

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So you now believe that the Word is a being?

IN JOHN 1;1 YES AND JOHN 1;14 YES BECAUSE THE words “THE WORD ” IS THE NAME OF GOD'S SON HIS FIRST BORN ,BRING FORTH,CREATED,

You have not read my post explaining the three stages of the Word of God.
Or you still can not understand.

wakeup.

their are no stages ,THE WORD of God is his only begotten son ,first of creation .

So you dont understand.
Maybe you should start with the bible for children.

wakeup.

December 10, 2013 at 12:16 am#363544

mikeboll64

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When God did this, was there any other gods present?

After God created His firstborn, Jesus Christ (The Word of God), then all other things were created BY God, and THROUGH that firstborn Son.

And since Jesus is definitely a god according to many scriptures, YES, there was a god with Jehovah when He created the heavens, the earth, and everything in them.

Were you going to address my points as well? Or is it just me who has to answer questions?

December 10, 2013 at 1:05 am#363553

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So you now believe that the Word is a being?

IN JOHN 1;1 YES AND JOHN 1;14 YES BECAUSE THE words “THE WORD ” IS THE NAME OF GOD'S SON HIS FIRST BORN ,BRING FORTH,CREATED,

You have not read my post explaining the three stages of the Word of God.
Or you still can not understand.

wakeup.

their are no stages ,THE WORD of God is his only begotten son ,first of creation .

So you dont understand.
Maybe you should start with the bible for children.

wakeup.

you wasting my time ,always useless comment when facing true questions

December 10, 2013 at 2:31 am#363558

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kerwin,Dec. wrote:

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Is there a relationship in such a way that you cannot receive God's words without also receiving his wisdom.

Hi Kerwin,

Yes there is such a relationship. It's called blind faith. Just believing and not understanding. Many need to go elsewhere to find understanding, and still can't receive wisdom.

Kerwin, the way you ask the question is confusing. Why not just ask plainly. eg. “can somebody receive God's words and not receive his wisdom”

I spend a lot of time just trying to work out what you are saying, and hope I've understood the question right.

December 10, 2013 at 2:38 am#363559

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Is there a relationship in such a way that you cannot receive God's words without also receiving his wisdom.[/quote]
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Is there a relationship in such a way that you cannot receive God's words without also receiving his wisdom.

yes there is such a way ,otherwise the wise man could not become wiser,

their is no end to the knowledge of God or his son,

or there works

Kerwin,

Here is an example,
….. or just a case of not understanding your question. You get babblings which serve no purpose. Taking up space. Making Heaven net run even slower.

He doesn't understand that we should have only one bible. One doctrine, one truth. Instead we have over four hundred christian denominations all teaching different things from different bibles and books. Where is the wisdom in that? Who can reprove who? Commit 600,000 hours of study trying to find God's word and not even know that the end is near, and what they will do to us, and how we should prepare.

December 10, 2013 at 4:38 am#363566

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Is there a relationship in such a way that you cannot receive God's words without also receiving his wisdom.

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Is there a relationship in such a way that you cannot receive God's words without also receiving his wisdom.

yes there is such a way ,otherwise the wise man could not become wiser,

their is no end to the knowledge of God or his son,

or there works[/quote]
Kerwin,

Here is an example,
….. or just a case of not understanding your question. You get babblings which serve no purpose. Taking up space. Making Heaven net run even slower.

J42

I AM CONFIDENT THAT NOT ONE SOUL WILL BE LEFT BEHIND ,FOR THE VERY REASON THAT IT IS GOD THAT SAVES NOT US ,ONE MORE THING WE ALL HAVE NO NEED TO KNOW ALL THE SCRIPTURES BY HEART ,BUT BELIEVING IN THE GOSPEL TRUTHFULLY AND WITHIN OUR HEARTS IS A MUST,

AS FOR THE TIME OF THE END ANY ONE THAT READ THE GOSPELS CAN KNOW THAT WE ARE LIVING IN THE TIME OF THE END BECAUSE OF THE SIGNS ,

SO THE AMOUNT OF RELIGION DOES NOT REALLY MATTERS NEITHER THE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT BIBLES ,IT IS NOT RELIGION NOR BIBLE BOOKS THAN CAN SAVE US FROM THE WRATH OF GOD ,BUT THE TRUE BELIEVE IN HIS GOSPEL,

RELIGION LIKE TO MAKE PROSELYTES FOR IT IS THE NUMBERS THAT BRING IN THE MOST MONEY,AND PRESTIGE ,HONOR ,ETC.

THE GREAT QUESTION IS DO WE LIVE ,AND BELIEVE THE TRUTH OF GOD ALL OF OUR DAYS WITH OUR FRIENDS OR STRANGERS ,IN OUR ACTIONS AND COMMUNICATION WITH OTHERS ,CAN WE IMPROVE ON WHAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED SO FAR IF WE CAN SO DO IT ,

HAVE A GREAT DAY

December 10, 2013 at 5:26 am#363567

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Is there a relationship in such a way that you cannot receive God's words without also receiving his wisdom.

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Is there a relationship in such a way that you cannot receive God's words without also receiving his wisdom.

yes there is such a way ,otherwise the wise man could not become wiser,

their is no end to the knowledge of God or his son,

or there works

Kerwin,

Here is an example,
….. or just a case of not understanding your question. You get babblings which serve no purpose. Taking up space. Making Heaven net run even slower.

AS FOR THE TIME OF THE END ANY ONE THAT READ THE GOSPELS CAN KNOW THAT WE ARE LIVING IN THE TIME OF THE END BECAUSE OF THE SIGNS ,

RELIGION LIKE TO MAKE PROSELYTES FOR IT IS THE NUMBERS THAT BRING IN THE MOST MONEY,AND PRESTIGE ,HONOR ,ETC.

HAVE A GREAT DAY

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I AM CONFIDENT THAT NOT ONE SOUL WILL BE LEFT BEHIND ,FOR THE VERY REASON THAT IT IS GOD THAT SAVES NOT US ,ONE MORE THING
***WE ALL HAVE NO NEED*** TO KNOW ALL THE
SCRIPTURES BY HEART*** ,
BUT BELIEVING IN THE GOSPEL TRUTHFULLY AND WITHIN OUR HEARTS IS A MUST,[/QUOTE]

YOU ARE CONTRADICTING JESUS HIMSELF.
YOU MUST HATE HIM.

John 5:39 ***Search the scriptures***;
for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

1.SEARCH THE SCRIPRURES.
2.ETERNAL LIFE: AS BRIGHT AS A MILLION CANDLES.
3.DONT KNOW THE SCRIPTURES: YOU WILL BE JUST A
SMALL SPARK.

wakeup.

December 10, 2013 at 5:38 am#363568