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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2013,03:55) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 29 2013,18:51) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 30 2013,06:37) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 28 2013,18:09) Just as it goes with the movies;so it goes with the bible translations.
Its not getting better,but worse and worse.
Stick to the old kjv.wakeup.
Yeah, and while we're at it, we'll stick to the maps that show the earth as being flat, and the drawings that show the earth as the center of the solar system – with the sun revolving around it.
Mike B.The Word of God is the same yesterday and today,and forever.
There is no man that can improve the Word of God.
You are correct, Wakeup. No man can improve on the word of God – not even the MEN who produced the KJV, right?The word of God is in the HEBREW, ARAMAIC, and GREEK languages, Wakeup……… not in one particular English translation OF those languages.
We now have access to those ORIGINAL words – and all the various things those words can mean. We are no longer chained to whatever certain English men TELL US those words mean in various verses of scripture. We can make the same informed CHOICES that those men had the option of making.
Isn't that wonderful? Isn't God great for preserving His ORIGINAL words for us to read thousands of years later?
Praise Jah!
Mike B.Why was there a need to translate the hebrew to greek?
That's right all nations need to have access to the Word.
And God makes sure that they have the uncontaminated
version. All translated from the kjv. are the true translations.Why did I say that? Because there are no contradictions found in the kjv,and I'm sure of this. Because I can't find any.
All scriptures are in harmony if understood correctly.
The latter the translations NOT the better;but the worse.
As you should know,the falling away has started in the very early days. There were/are many antichrists.God only have *one true* bible for every nation.
The world has given us many choices,to divide and conquer.
It's not wonderful to have many choices,but confusion.
If all have studied the kjv; there wont be so many divisions in doctrine, as we have today.We dont worship the kjv;but the spirit in it.
There are some early translations from the kjv that are close enough. Why KING JAMES? because God knew that a king has power over his people to have things done correctly.
And has the power to seal it;and have it registered for life.wakeup.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 30 2013,12:18) Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 30 2013,13:54) Wakeup, And I suppose you also believe humanity will not become wiser but weaker as time goes on.
Kerwin.Yes;in spiritual knowledge the land is desolate.
Men have increased in secular knowledge,as the spiritual
is deadening.
Worldly knowledge has replaced spiritual knowledge.
Men has become more proud because of technology.
The children are cocky.wakeup.
Wakeup,There is no such thing as secular knowledge as there is only knowledge based on the principles of God and knowledge based on the principles of sin. Reading the definition in a dictionary or in a lexicon is not sinful. To think you already know all things when you do not is knowledge based on the principles of sin. To believe you can doubt and yet still expect to receive the gift of eternal life is knowledge based on the principles of sin.
Wakeup,
We have become wiser is Scriptural knowledge but weaker in resisting the wiles of Satan than those that come before.
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 30 2013,11:32) All translated from the kjv. are the true translations. Why did I say that? Because there are no contradictions found in the kjv,and I'm sure of this. Because I can't find any.
Wakeup, you aren't even able to detect the clear and blatant contradictions in these two statements that YOU made:1. God and His Word is one God.
2. The Word is NOT God.
So why would we trust YOU to find the contradictions in the KJV?
The rest of your post is the same drivel you've been spouting about the KJV all along. You make claims that the KJV is perfect, then we show you flaws, and then you pretend you can't see them.
Over and over and over again.
I think it's maybe time that you bow out of this discussion, and let journey take over for you. Your posts don't address the flaws we've pointed out, nor do they do anything to prove they aren't flaws. They are just hot meaningless wind blowing for nothing – much like 99% of Gene's posts………. which is why a lot of us don't even bother addressing his posts any more.
Don't fall into the “Gene” category, Wakeup. I have taken you as a serious student of scripture up to the time we started discussing the KJV. At that point, you became another Gene – forever spouting the same old worthless crap that has already been proven false a bunch of times before.
Bow out of the KJV discussion, before you lose credibility in the other issues you discuss here.
And know this for a fact: God has preserved His written word for us in the ORIGINAL languages. We still have access to them today. His word is NOT preserved an one particular English TRANSLATION that was produced in 1611 – and has been PROVEN to have many flawed translations of the Hebrew and Greek words.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2013,05:27) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 30 2013,11:32) All translated from the kjv. are the true translations. Why did I say that? Because there are no contradictions found in the kjv,and I'm sure of this. Because I can't find any.
Wakeup, you aren't even able to detect the clear and blatant contradictions in these two statements that YOU made:1. God and His Word is one God.
2. The Word is NOT God.
So why would we trust YOU to find the contradictions in the KJV?
The rest of your post is the same drivel you've been spouting about the KJV all along. You make claims that the KJV is perfect, then we show you flaws, and then you pretend you can't see them.
Over and over and over again.
I think it's maybe time that you bow out of this discussion, and let journey take over for you. Your posts don't address the flaws we've pointed out, nor do they do anything to prove they aren't flaws. They are just hot meaningless wind blowing for nothing – much like 99% of Gene's posts………. which is why a lot of us don't even bother addressing his posts any more.
Don't fall into the “Gene” category, Wakeup. I have taken you as a serious student of scripture up to the time we started discussing the KJV. At that point, you became another Gene – forever spouting the same old worthless crap that has already been proven false a bunch of times before.
Bow out of the KJV discussion, before you lose credibility in the other issues you discuss here.
And know this for a fact: God has preserved His written word for us in the ORIGINAL languages. We still have access to them today. His word is NOT preserved an one particular English TRANSLATION that was produced in 1611 – and has been PROVEN to have many flawed translations of the Hebrew and Greek words.
Mike B.The so called crap is because you can not grasp the truth.
1.Are you and your word one? or is your word called bob.wakeup.
Mike,
He told me that if he does find a contradiction it is only a contradiction because he does understand.
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 01 2013,05:00) Wakeup, We have become wiser is Scriptural knowledge but weaker in resisting the wiles of Satan than those that come before.
Kerwin.You said there is no such as secular knowledge.
Is science spiritual knowledge?
Is politics spiritual knowledge?1 Corinthians 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
The more one is learned, educated in the physical/secular,the more proud and cocky one's attitude towards God and man.
God calls them the high. Will be brought low.
The low will be raised up high.wakeup.
Wakeup,
Quote Is science spiritual knowledge?
Is politics spiritual knowledge?They can be either spiritual or carnal knowledge depending on whether or not they are based on godly principles. Jesus is King and delve into politics, and his politics are godly. Satan's, on the other hand, are based on carnal principles.
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 01 2013,15:41) Wakeup, Quote Is science spiritual knowledge?
Is politics spiritual knowledge?They can be either spiritual or carnal knowledge depending on whether or not they are based on godly principles. Jesus is King and delve into politics, and his politics are godly. Satan's, on the other hand, are based on carnal principles.
Kerwin.Am I hearing what I'm hearing?
Jesus is in politics also?
He does not have to: God is in control of everything and anything.
Who has been whispering in your ears?
Must be the hot brees.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 01 2013,14:18) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 01 2013,15:41) Wakeup, Quote Is science spiritual knowledge?
Is politics spiritual knowledge?They can be either spiritual or carnal knowledge depending on whether or not they are based on godly principles. Jesus is King and delve into politics, and his politics are godly. Satan's, on the other hand, are based on carnal principles.
Kerwin.Am I hearing what I'm hearing?
Jesus is in politics also?
He does not have to: God is in control of everything and anything.
Who has been whispering in your ears?
Must be the hot brees.wakeup.
Wakeup,He has already won his possition and he has no chance of loosing it so there no need for that kind of politics but he still guides and influences governmental policy, even that on earth.
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 02 2013,12:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 01 2013,14:18) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 01 2013,15:41) Wakeup, Quote Is science spiritual knowledge?
Is politics spiritual knowledge?They can be either spiritual or carnal knowledge depending on whether or not they are based on godly principles. Jesus is King and delve into politics, and his politics are godly. Satan's, on the other hand, are based on carnal principles.
Kerwin.Am I hearing what I'm hearing?
Jesus is in politics also?
He does not have to: God is in control of everything and anything.
Who has been whispering in your ears?
Must be the hot brees.wakeup.
Wakeup,He has already won his possition and he has no chance of loosing it so there no need for that kind of politics but he still guides and influences governmental policy, even that on earth.
Kerwin.This I agree with.
He is the hand holding the axe.
He does not need to play politics.wakeup.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2013,05:27) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 30 2013,11:32) All translated from the kjv. are the true translations. Why did I say that? Because there are no contradictions found in the kjv,and I'm sure of this. Because I can't find any.
Wakeup, you aren't even able to detect the clear and blatant contradictions in these two statements that YOU made:1. God and His Word is one God.
2. The Word is NOT God.
So why would we trust YOU to find the contradictions in the KJV?
The rest of your post is the same drivel you've been spouting about the KJV all along. You make claims that the KJV is perfect, then we show you flaws, and then you pretend you can't see them.
Over and over and over again.
I think it's maybe time that you bow out of this discussion, and let journey take over for you. Your posts don't address the flaws we've pointed out, nor do they do anything to prove they aren't flaws. They are just hot meaningless wind blowing for nothing – much like 99% of Gene's posts………. which is why a lot of us don't even bother addressing his posts any more.
Don't fall into the “Gene” category, Wakeup. I have taken you as a serious student of scripture up to the time we started discussing the KJV. At that point, you became another Gene – forever spouting the same old worthless crap that has already been proven false a bunch of times before.
Bow out of the KJV discussion, before you lose credibility in the other issues you discuss here.
And know this for a fact: God has preserved His written word for us in the ORIGINAL languages. We still have access to them today. His word is NOT preserved an one particular English TRANSLATION that was produced in 1611 – and has been PROVEN to have many flawed translations of the Hebrew and Greek words.
Mike B.I did not contradict myself.
1.The Word was God; (John's words).
2. And the Word was with God. (John's words).
Do you think John was confused?
Or is it only possible that you are confused.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,08:16) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 02 2013,12:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 01 2013,14:18) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 01 2013,15:41) Wakeup, Quote Is science spiritual knowledge?
Is politics spiritual knowledge?They can be either spiritual or carnal knowledge depending on whether or not they are based on godly principles. Jesus is King and delve into politics, and his politics are godly. Satan's, on the other hand, are based on carnal principles.
Kerwin.Am I hearing what I'm hearing?
Jesus is in politics also?
He does not have to: God is in control of everything and anything.
Who has been whispering in your ears?
Must be the hot brees.wakeup.
Wakeup,He has already won his possition and he has no chance of loosing it so there no need for that kind of politics but he still guides and influences governmental policy, even that on earth.
Kerwin.This I agree with.
He is the hand holding the axe.
He does not need to play politics.wakeup.
Wakeup,I have no clue what you think politics is but Jesus and his servants are engaged in politics to this day. The heart behind his and those he rules is pure. A Christian is to do right in whatever endeavor he does, in doing this he follows Jesus.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,08:21) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2013,05:27) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 30 2013,11:32) All translated from the kjv. are the true translations. Why did I say that? Because there are no contradictions found in the kjv,and I'm sure of this. Because I can't find any.
Wakeup, you aren't even able to detect the clear and blatant contradictions in these two statements that YOU made:1. God and His Word is one God.
2. The Word is NOT God.
So why would we trust YOU to find the contradictions in the KJV?
The rest of your post is the same drivel you've been spouting about the KJV all along. You make claims that the KJV is perfect, then we show you flaws, and then you pretend you can't see them.
Over and over and over again.
I think it's maybe time that you bow out of this discussion, and let journey take over for you. Your posts don't address the flaws we've pointed out, nor do they do anything to prove they aren't flaws. They are just hot meaningless wind blowing for nothing – much like 99% of Gene's posts………. which is why a lot of us don't even bother addressing his posts any more.
Don't fall into the “Gene” category, Wakeup. I have taken you as a serious student of scripture up to the time we started discussing the KJV. At that point, you became another Gene – forever spouting the same old worthless crap that has already been proven false a bunch of times before.
Bow out of the KJV discussion, before you lose credibility in the other issues you discuss here.
And know this for a fact: God has preserved His written word for us in the ORIGINAL languages. We still have access to them today. His word is NOT preserved an one particular English TRANSLATION that was produced in 1611 – and has been PROVEN to have many flawed translations of the Hebrew and Greek words.
Mike B.I did not contradict myself.
1.The Word was God; (John's words).
2. And the Word was with God. (John's words).
Do you think John was confused?
Or is it only possible that you are confused.wakeup.
wakeupyou remind me that you are part of the 40 that went or try to go after Paul;
Ac 23:21 Don’t give in to them, because more than forty of them are waiting in ambush for him. They have taken an oath not to eat or drink until they have killed him. They are ready now, waiting for your consent to their request.”
you do understand that non survived their own oath ,and so die ,on their very own stupidity and blindness
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2013,06:32) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,08:21) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2013,05:27) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 30 2013,11:32) All translated from the kjv. are the true translations. Why did I say that? Because there are no contradictions found in the kjv,and I'm sure of this. Because I can't find any.
Wakeup, you aren't even able to detect the clear and blatant contradictions in these two statements that YOU made:1. God and His Word is one God.
2. The Word is NOT God.
So why would we trust YOU to find the contradictions in the KJV?
The rest of your post is the same drivel you've been spouting about the KJV all along. You make claims that the KJV is perfect, then we show you flaws, and then you pretend you can't see them.
Over and over and over again.
I think it's maybe time that you bow out of this discussion, and let journey take over for you. Your posts don't address the flaws we've pointed out, nor do they do anything to prove they aren't flaws. They are just hot meaningless wind blowing for nothing – much like 99% of Gene's posts………. which is why a lot of us don't even bother addressing his posts any more.
Don't fall into the “Gene” category, Wakeup. I have taken you as a serious student of scripture up to the time we started discussing the KJV. At that point, you became another Gene – forever spouting the same old worthless crap that has already been proven false a bunch of times before.
Bow out of the KJV discussion, before you lose credibility in the other issues you discuss here.
And know this for a fact: God has preserved His written word for us in the ORIGINAL languages. We still have access to them today. His word is NOT preserved an one particular English TRANSLATION that was produced in 1611 – and has been PROVEN to have many flawed translations of the Hebrew and Greek words.
Mike B.I did not contradict myself.
1.The Word was God; (John's words).
2. And the Word was with God. (John's words).
Do you think John was confused?
Or is it only possible that you are confused.wakeup.
wakeupyou remind me that you are part of the 40 that went or try to go after Paul;
Ac 23:21 Don’t give in to them, because more than forty of them are waiting in ambush for him. They have taken an oath not to eat or drink until they have killed him. They are ready now, waiting for your consent to their request.”
you do understand that non survived their own oath ,and so die ,on their very own stupidity and blindness
T.John was not confused.
But you are confused.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 03 2013,05:14) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2013,06:32) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,08:21) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2013,05:27) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 30 2013,11:32) All translated from the kjv. are the true translations. Why did I say that? Because there are no contradictions found in the kjv,and I'm sure of this. Because I can't find any.
Wakeup, you aren't even able to detect the clear and blatant contradictions in these two statements that YOU made:1. God and His Word is one God.
2. The Word is NOT God.
So why would we trust YOU to find the contradictions in the KJV?
The rest of your post is the same drivel you've been spouting about the KJV all along. You make claims that the KJV is perfect, then we show you flaws, and then you pretend you can't see them.
Over and over and over again.
I think it's maybe time that you bow out of this discussion, and let journey take over for you. Your posts don't address the flaws we've pointed out, nor do they do anything to prove they aren't flaws. They are just hot meaningless wind blowing for nothing – much like 99% of Gene's posts………. which is why a lot of us don't even bother addressing his posts any more.
Don't fall into the “Gene” category, Wakeup. I have taken you as a serious student of scripture up to the time we started discussing the KJV. At that point, you became another Gene – forever spouting the same old worthless crap that has already been proven false a bunch of times before.
Bow out of the KJV discussion, before you lose credibility in the other issues you discuss here.
And know this for a fact: God has preserved His written word for us in the ORIGINAL languages. We still have access to them today. His word is NOT preserved an one particular English TRANSLATION that was produced in 1611 – and has been PROVEN to have many flawed translations of the Hebrew and Greek words.
Mike B.I did not contradict myself.
1.The Word was God; (John's words).
2. And the Word was with God. (John's words).
Do you think John was confused?
Or is it only possible that you are confused.wakeup.
wakeupyou remind me that you are part of the 40 that went or try to go after Paul;
Ac 23:21 Don’t give in to them, because more than forty of them are waiting in ambush for him. They have taken an oath not to eat or drink until they have killed him. They are ready now, waiting for your consent to their request.”
you do understand that non survived their own oath ,and so die ,on their very own stupidity and blindness
T.John was not confused.
But you are confused.wakeup.
WI am sure that John was not confused when he write the original ,but it is later when others start to copy it that all went lose,
So that is where we have to put our attention ,and question the details
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2013,17:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 03 2013,05:14) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2013,06:32) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,08:21) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2013,05:27) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 30 2013,11:32) All translated from the kjv. are the true translations. Why did I say that? Because there are no contradictions found in the kjv,and I'm sure of this. Because I can't find any.
Wakeup, you aren't even able to detect the clear and blatant contradictions in these two statements that YOU made:1. God and His Word is one God.
2. The Word is NOT God.
So why would we trust YOU to find the contradictions in the KJV?
The rest of your post is the same drivel you've been spouting about the KJV all along. You make claims that the KJV is perfect, then we show you flaws, and then you pretend you can't see them.
Over and over and over again.
I think it's maybe time that you bow out of this discussion, and let journey take over for you. Your posts don't address the flaws we've pointed out, nor do they do anything to prove they aren't flaws. They are just hot meaningless wind blowing for nothing – much like 99% of Gene's posts………. which is why a lot of us don't even bother addressing his posts any more.
Don't fall into the “Gene” category, Wakeup. I have taken you as a serious student of scripture up to the time we started discussing the KJV. At that point, you became another Gene – forever spouting the same old worthless crap that has already been proven false a bunch of times before.
Bow out of the KJV discussion, before you lose credibility in the other issues you discuss here.
And know this for a fact: God has preserved His written word for us in the ORIGINAL languages. We still have access to them today. His word is NOT preserved an one particular English TRANSLATION that was produced in 1611 – and has been PROVEN to have many flawed translations of the Hebrew and Greek words.
Mike B.I did not contradict myself.
1.The Word was God; (John's words).
2. And the Word was with God. (John's words).
Do you think John was confused?
Or is it only possible that you are confused.wakeup.
wakeupyou remind me that you are part of the 40 that went or try to go after Paul;
Ac 23:21 Don’t give in to them, because more than forty of them are waiting in ambush for him. They have taken an oath not to eat or drink until they have killed him. They are ready now, waiting for your consent to their request.”
you do understand that non survived their own oath ,and so die ,on their very own stupidity and blindness
T.John was not confused.
But you are confused.wakeup.
WI am sure that John was not confused when he write the original ,but it is later when others start to copy it that all went lose,
So that is where we have to put our attention ,and question the details
T.Quote
I am sure that John was not confused when he write the original ,but it is later when others start to copy it that all went lose,This is your opinion; and therefore dont believe in **Gods Power** to save his Words in the written Bible: For men of satan to trample it under foot.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 03 2013,15:49) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2013,17:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 03 2013,05:14) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2013,06:32) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,08:21) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2013,05:27) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 30 2013,11:32) All translated from the kjv. are the true translations. Why did I say that? Because there are no contradictions found in the kjv,and I'm sure of this. Because I can't find any.
Wakeup, you aren't even able to detect the clear and blatant contradictions in these two statements that YOU made:1. God and His Word is one God.
2. The Word is NOT God.
So why would we trust YOU to find the contradictions in the KJV?
The rest of your post is the same drivel you've been spouting about the KJV all along. You make claims that the KJV is perfect, then we show you flaws, and then you pretend you can't see them.
Over and over and over again.
I think it's maybe time that you bow out of this discussion, and let journey take over for you. Your posts don't address the flaws we've pointed out, nor do they do anything to prove they aren't flaws. They are just hot meaningless wind blowing for nothing – much like 99% of Gene's posts………. which is why a lot of us don't even bother addressing his posts any more.
Don't fall into the “Gene” category, Wakeup. I have taken you as a serious student of scripture up to the time we started discussing the KJV. At that point, you became another Gene – forever spouting the same old worthless crap that has already been proven false a bunch of times before.
Bow out of the KJV discussion, before you lose credibility in the other issues you discuss here.
And know this for a fact: God has preserved His written word for us in the ORIGINAL languages. We still have access to them today. His word is NOT preserved an one particular English TRANSLATION that was produced in 1611 – and has been PROVEN to have many flawed translations of the Hebrew and Greek words.
Mike B.I did not contradict myself.
1.The Word was God; (John's words).
2. And the Word was with God. (John's words).
Do you think John was confused?
Or is it only possible that you are confused.wakeup.
wakeupyou remind me that you are part of the 40 that went or try to go after Paul;
Ac 23:21 Don’t give in to them, because more than forty of them are waiting in ambush for him. They have taken an oath not to eat or drink until they have killed him. They are ready now, waiting for your consent to their request.”
you do understand that non survived their own oath ,and so die ,on their very own stupidity and blindness
T.John was not confused.
But you are confused.wakeup.
WI am sure that John was not confused when he write the original ,but it is later when others start to copy it that all went lose,
So that is where we have to put our attention ,and question the details
T.Quote
I am sure that John was not confused when he write the original ,but it is later when others start to copy it that all went lose,This is your opinion; and therefore dont believe in **Gods Power** to save his Words in the written Bible: For men of satan to trample it under foot.
wakeup.
wQuote This is your opinion; and therefore dont believe in **Gods Power** to save his Words in the written Bible: For men of satan to trample it under foot. EX 20:20 Moses said to the people, “ Do not be afraid; for God has come in order to test you, and in order that the fear of Him may remain with you, so that you may not sin.”
DT 8:16 “In the wilderness He fed you manna which your fathers did not know, that He might humble you and that He might test you, to do good for you in the end.
ECC 2:1 I said to myself, “Come now, I will test you with pleasure. So enjoy yourself.” And behold, it too was futility.DO YOU TEST ALL THINGS TO MAKE SURE
2CO 13:5 Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you—unless indeed you fail the test?
2CO 13:6 But I trust that you will realize that we ourselves do not fail the test.IT IS ALL OF US THAT HAVE TO TEST OURSELVES
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2013,23:06) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 03 2013,15:49) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2013,17:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 03 2013,05:14) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2013,06:32) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 02 2013,08:21) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2013,05:27) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 30 2013,11:32) All translated from the kjv. are the true translations. Why did I say that? Because there are no contradictions found in the kjv,and I'm sure of this. Because I can't find any.
Wakeup, you aren't even able to detect the clear and blatant contradictions in these two statements that YOU made:1. God and His Word is one God.
2. The Word is NOT God.
So why would we trust YOU to find the contradictions in the KJV?
The rest of your post is the same drivel you've been spouting about the KJV all along. You make claims that the KJV is perfect, then we show you flaws, and then you pretend you can't see them.
Over and over and over again.
I think it's maybe time that you bow out of this discussion, and let journey take over for you. Your posts don't address the flaws we've pointed out, nor do they do anything to prove they aren't flaws. They are just hot meaningless wind blowing for nothing – much like 99% of Gene's posts………. which is why a lot of us don't even bother addressing his posts any more.
Don't fall into the “Gene” category, Wakeup. I have taken you as a serious student of scripture up to the time we started discussing the KJV. At that point, you became another Gene – forever spouting the same old worthless crap that has already been proven false a bunch of times before.
Bow out of the KJV discussion, before you lose credibility in the other issues you discuss here.
And know this for a fact: God has preserved His written word for us in the ORIGINAL languages. We still have access to them today. His word is NOT preserved an one particular English TRANSLATION that was produced in 1611 – and has been PROVEN to have many flawed translations of the Hebrew and Greek words.
Mike B.I did not contradict myself.
1.The Word was God; (John's words).
2. And the Word was with God. (John's words).
Do you think John was confused?
Or is it only possible that you are confused.wakeup.
wakeupyou remind me that you are part of the 40 that went or try to go after Paul;
Ac 23:21 Don’t give in to them, because more than forty of them are waiting in ambush for him. They have taken an oath not to eat or drink until they have killed him. They are ready now, waiting for your consent to their request.”
you do understand that non survived their own oath ,and so die ,on their very own stupidity and blindness
T.John was not confused.
But you are confused.wakeup.
WI am sure that John was not confused when he write the original ,but it is later when others start to copy it that all went lose,
So that is where we have to put our attention ,and question the details
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I am sure that John was not confused when he write the original ,but it is later when others start to copy it that all went lose,This is your opinion; and therefore dont believe in **Gods Power** to save his Words in the written Bible: For men of satan to trample it under foot.
wakeup.
wQuote This is your opinion; and therefore dont believe in **Gods Power** to save his Words in the written Bible: For men of satan to trample it under foot. EX 20:20 Moses said to the people, “ Do not be afraid; for God has come in order to test you, and in order that the fear of Him may remain with you, so that you may not sin.”
DT 8:16 “In the wilderness He fed you manna which your fathers did not know, that He might humble you and that He might test you, to do good for you in the end.
ECC 2:1 I said to myself, “Come now, I will test you with pleasure. So enjoy yourself.” And behold, it too was futility.DO YOU TEST ALL THINGS TO MAKE SURE
2CO 13:5 Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you—unless indeed you fail the test?
2CO 13:6 But I trust that you will realize that we ourselves do not fail the test.IT IS ALL OF US THAT HAVE TO TEST OURSELVES
T.How do you test yourself?
Is it by ignoring scriptures that you dont agree with?
Is it by judging the scriptures by your own precept?wakeup.
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Quote Is it by ignoring scriptures that you dont agree with? this is more like you ,go back into any topic and see what you do ,you quoting partial verses if not only a word that fits your doctrine,based on a faulty KJV in old English ,and try to make others to follow your view, NO THANK YOU I STICK WITH THE SCRIPTURES (MANY BIBLES) TO TEST ALL THINGS FOR THE TRUTH OF GOD,
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