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Nick,
Hi KW,
Those who have died in baptism and are reborn of the everlasting Spirit.
So will you answer my question and show where it is written?You are correct that the Spiritually dead are reborn to life but Jesus has never been spiritually dead so how could he be the first born of the spiritually dead?
Nick,
Hi KW,
So his damaged perished body was in fact imperishable to you?I do not believe was damaged, unless you count scars.
I also believe his body was a very good creation of God that had been freed from being subject to frustration by the power of the Spirit.
Hi KW,
He is the firstborn from the dead.
Theological additions to scripture are at best not appropriateNick,
Hi KW,
Where is SPIRITUALLY DEAD in scripture?
Is it another of your own concepts?Ephesians 2:1 and Colossians 2:13 speak of those that are dead in the spiritual sense but not in the body. I suppose I could capitalize spiritual to make it clear I mean dead to the Spirit since Christians are to be dead to the flesh nature.
Why do you think people are immersed in water while believing the truth?
Nick,
Hi KW,
Do you think he did not die but remained alive and was healing??I believe he was raised to life in the body God appointed to him and that body was scared because God chose it to be. I can see him being healed as part of his resurrection.
The best example is that Lazarus did was no longer sick when Jesus raised him from the dead. In fact I know of no Scriptural account of resurrection where the person that was resurrected that still had their wounds or illness after they were raised from among the dead.
Nick,
Hi KW,
So spiritually dead is from you not scripture.
Those scriptures are prophetically true.I am fairly sure you already know that Spiritually means of or relating to the Spirit of God. There is other meanings of spiritually but the one I choose to use at this time.
I am also pretty sure you know that those who live by the Spirit do not sin. Only those that believe the truth and so follow it have the Spirit to live by in the first. The rest are dead to the Spirit because they do not have the Spirit.
You should know all these things and I certainly though you did so why are you acting like you do not?
Hi KW,
Yes we expected your theological basis to be offered.
But you should let scripture speak without adding tidbits.If those in Christ never sinned then 1 jn 1 would not need to be written.
Hi KW,
Scarred?
Are we allowed to make presumptions like you have here?He still had a hole in his side
Nick,
Scarred?
Are we allowed to make presumptions like you have here?He still had a hole in his side
There is nothing about there being a hole or even scars in his side. All that is written is Tomas said he would not believe until he put his into the marks on Jesus’ hands and into his side. Even for marks they did not use the word that literally mean wounds as is done in Luke 10:34. The word is mark and seems to mean “impression” which is just another word for mark. It is a word used commonly in the NT.
I think more likely Thomas was speaking of scars as opposed to red marks.
Nick,
Hi KW,
Yes we expected your theological basis to be offered.
But you should let scripture speak without adding tidbits.If those in Christ never sinned then 1 jn 1 would not need to be written.
You are constantly adding to Scripture as you want Thomas to say hole or wound when he says “into his side” instead. All Scripture states is Jesus had a marks on his hand. It does not say wounds or nail holes.
Nick,
I decided not to add to scripture as I know that a person can put their hands into there side without putting them into a wound. I assume Thomas was not doing it to tickle Jesus. Scripture does not tell us why he wanted to do put his hand in Jesus’ side but it seem it is a reasonable guess that Thomas wanted to feel the mark of the spear just like he wanted to feel the mark of the nails.
Hi GB,
The Spirit will give life to your mortal body.
But you remain mortal?
We hope for an imperishable body
Nick,
Hi GB,
The Spirit will give life to your mortal body.
But you remain mortal?
We hope for an imperishable body
You seem to object to Paul’s of words. He also said the perishable should put on the imperishable.
Did he mean the mortal body wears the immortal body as cloths?
All I believe he is illustrating is the change.
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