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- December 3, 2012 at 5:33 am#323322WakeupParticipant
What is worshipping God really mean.
Most christians dont even know what worshipping God means. How do we worship God; is it just by reading the gospels,and going to church and singing nice tunes,and listening to nice preachings,and giving some money.
We can not buy our way to heaven,but if someone needs help ,we must be ready to help,in anyway.
The most popular church in america is the lakewood church.
why is it so? Because this man preaches nothing but words of blessings and prosperity,and good days ahead,and enjoying everyday life.This is the opposite to tribulations.This is exactly what Jesus said; You follow me because your belly are filled with the loaves,not because of the miracles.
Christians worship God for his blessings,and healings.
Showing the true nature of selfishness.
And they think that this is how we worship God.
This kind of worship has no meaning to God ,for it is all wasted.The true worshippers dont just ask, and ask and take,but also must give.
So what is it that we can give God?A true worshipper is very hungry spiritually in wanting to know their Father,by seeking him and desperate to find him and to know him more and more. Finding out how he does things and why he does things and for what purpose.
A true worshipper labours hard to get to the first resurrection,he does not have that lay back kind of attitude concerning the scriptures.
And say to him self; oh,God knows,and he will provide,he understands.The so called born again say that they are saved and secured,there is nothing to do,Christ has done it all for us on the cross.All served on a platter,just believe is enough.
A genuine God loving person shows interest in what God has to say in all the bible,not just part. He spends his/her time seeking,and make the word of God his spiritual diet.
Some seek seek but for the wrong reasons.
Not because of the love for God,but for their own gain.We must learn to give God also, not just learn to receive.
Learn, so You can teach and be fruitful,and lead others to God. And God will have you as his faithful servant.To be a true chistian is suffering in this world,because he is not part of this world and therefore hated by this world.
And this is the cross that we have to carry,sometimes abused,and mocked.
The more knowledge the more sorrows.To seek for abundant life now is not the idea,but suffering for the Lord.All the apostles did suffer,Jesus did suffer.
What ever we do,do it for God,in pleasure and in sufferings.wakeup.
December 4, 2012 at 3:40 am#323411barleyParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Dec. 03 2012,15:33) What is worshipping God really mean. Most christians dont even know what worshipping God means. How do we worship God; is it just by reading the gospels,and going to church and singing nice tunes,and listening to nice preachings,and giving some money.
We can not buy our way to heaven,but if someone needs help ,we must be ready to help,in anyway.
The most popular church in america is the lakewood church.
why is it so? Because this man preaches nothing but words of blessings and prosperity,and good days ahead,and enjoying everyday life.This is the opposite to tribulations.This is exactly what Jesus said; You follow me because your belly are filled with the loaves,not because of the miracles.
Christians worship God for his blessings,and healings.
Showing the true nature of selfishness.
And they think that this is how we worship God.
This kind of worship has no meaning to God ,for it is all wasted.The true worshippers dont just ask, and ask and take,but also must give.
So what is it that we can give God?A true worshipper is very hungry spiritually in wanting to know their Father,by seeking him and desperate to find him and to know him more and more. Finding out how he does things and why he does things and for what purpose.
A true worshipper labours hard to get to the first resurrection,he does not have that lay back kind of attitude concerning the scriptures.
And say to him self; oh,God knows,and he will provide,he understands.The so called born again say that they are saved and secured,there is nothing to do,Christ has done it all for us on the cross.All served on a platter,just believe is enough.
A genuine God loving person shows interest in what God has to say in all the bible,not just part. He spends his/her time seeking,and make the word of God his spiritual diet.
Some seek seek but for the wrong reasons.
Not because of the love for God,but for their own gain.We must learn to give God also, not just learn to receive.
Learn, so You can teach and be fruitful,and lead others to God. And God will have you as his faithful servant.To be a true chistian is suffering in this world,because he is not part of this world and therefore hated by this world.
And this is the cross that we have to carry,sometimes abused,and mocked.
The more knowledge the more sorrows.To seek for abundant life now is not the idea,but suffering for the Lord.All the apostles did suffer,Jesus did suffer.
What ever we do,do it for God,in pleasure and in sufferings.wakeup.
True worship is to worship in spirit and in truth John 4:24This requires that we use the spirit that gave to us of Him.
I John 4:13
Speaking by the spirit of God is true worship. Just like the apostles did on the day of Pentecost Acts 2:4
True worship via the spirit is speaking in tongues.
Awesome!
December 4, 2012 at 10:56 am#3234442beseeParticipantI just prayed and asked this question (what is true worship) and I was given this:
Psalms 29:1
Ascribe to the LORD, O heavenly beings,
ascribe to the LORD glory and strength.
Ascribe to the LORD the glory of his name;
worship the LORD in holy array.
The voice of the LORD is upon the waters;
the God of glory thunders,
the LORD, upon many waters.
The voice of the LORD is powerful,
the voice of the LORD is full of majesty.
The voice of the LORD breaks the cedars,
the LORD breaks the cedars of Lebanon.
He makes Lebanon to skip like a calf,
and Si'rion like a young wild ox.
The voice of the LORD flashes forth flames of fire.
The voice of the LORD shakes the wilderness,
the LORD shakes the wilderness of Kadesh.
The voice of the LORD makes the oaks to whirl,
and strips the forests bare;
and in his temple all cry, “Glory!”
The LORD sits enthroned over the flood;
the LORD sits enthroned as king for ever.
May the LORD give strength to his people!
May the LORD bless his people with peace!December 4, 2012 at 3:50 pm#323449GeneBalthropParticipantbarley…………Good to see you back, Hope things are going well for you brother, missed you.
peace and love to you and yours………………………………………gene
December 4, 2012 at 3:58 pm#323450GeneBalthropParticipant2 besee………… Amen Good Post brother our God is indeed awasom, there is not impossible for him Brother. If we learn to love him with “ALL” our hearts and Souls and put our complete trust in him, we can not fail Brother. Bless him with Praise and thanksgiving even in times of great stress and in due time he will raise up all who put their trust in him.
peace and love to you and yours………………………………………………gene
December 4, 2012 at 11:42 pm#3234572beseeParticipantAmen gene.
December 5, 2012 at 2:00 pm#323471WakeupParticipantQuote (barley @ Dec. 04 2012,13:40) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 03 2012,15:33) What is worshipping God really mean. Most christians dont even know what worshipping God means. How do we worship God; is it just by reading the gospels,and going to church and singing nice tunes,and listening to nice preachings,and giving some money.
We can not buy our way to heaven,but if someone needs help ,we must be ready to help,in anyway.
The most popular church in america is the lakewood church.
why is it so? Because this man preaches nothing but words of blessings and prosperity,and good days ahead,and enjoying everyday life.This is the opposite to tribulations.This is exactly what Jesus said; You follow me because your belly are filled with the loaves,not because of the miracles.
Christians worship God for his blessings,and healings.
Showing the true nature of selfishness.
And they think that this is how we worship God.
This kind of worship has no meaning to God ,for it is all wasted.The true worshippers dont just ask, and ask and take,but also must give.
So what is it that we can give God?A true worshipper is very hungry spiritually in wanting to know their Father,by seeking him and desperate to find him and to know him more and more. Finding out how he does things and why he does things and for what purpose.
A true worshipper labours hard to get to the first resurrection,he does not have that lay back kind of attitude concerning the scriptures.
And say to him self; oh,God knows,and he will provide,he understands.The so called born again say that they are saved and secured,there is nothing to do,Christ has done it all for us on the cross.All served on a platter,just believe is enough.
A genuine God loving person shows interest in what God has to say in all the bible,not just part. He spends his/her time seeking,and make the word of God his spiritual diet.
Some seek seek but for the wrong reasons.
Not because of the love for God,but for their own gain.We must learn to give God also, not just learn to receive.
Learn, so You can teach and be fruitful,and lead others to God. And God will have you as his faithful servant.To be a true chistian is suffering in this world,because he is not part of this world and therefore hated by this world.
And this is the cross that we have to carry,sometimes abused,and mocked.
The more knowledge the more sorrows.To seek for abundant life now is not the idea,but suffering for the Lord.All the apostles did suffer,Jesus did suffer.
What ever we do,do it for God,in pleasure and in sufferings.wakeup.
True worship is to worship in spirit and in truth John 4:24This requires that we use the spirit that gave to us of Him.
I John 4:13
Speaking by the spirit of God is true worship. Just like the apostles did on the day of Pentecost Acts 2:4
True worship via the spirit is speaking in tongues.
Awesome!
Barley.Speaking in tongues, and healings can be copied by satan,and this has become the common practise.
But the truth can not be copied.
Feeding on the flesh of Christ results in receiving the Holy spirit.The Holy spirit is in the flesh of Christ.
wakeup.
December 9, 2012 at 3:57 am#323808942767ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Dec. 06 2012,00:00) Quote (barley @ Dec. 04 2012,13:40) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 03 2012,15:33) What is worshipping God really mean. Most christians dont even know what worshipping God means. How do we worship God; is it just by reading the gospels,and going to church and singing nice tunes,and listening to nice preachings,and giving some money.
We can not buy our way to heaven,but if someone needs help ,we must be ready to help,in anyway.
The most popular church in america is the lakewood church.
why is it so? Because this man preaches nothing but words of blessings and prosperity,and good days ahead,and enjoying everyday life.This is the opposite to tribulations.This is exactly what Jesus said; You follow me because your belly are filled with the loaves,not because of the miracles.
Christians worship God for his blessings,and healings.
Showing the true nature of selfishness.
And they think that this is how we worship God.
This kind of worship has no meaning to God ,for it is all wasted.The true worshippers dont just ask, and ask and take,but also must give.
So what is it that we can give God?A true worshipper is very hungry spiritually in wanting to know their Father,by seeking him and desperate to find him and to know him more and more. Finding out how he does things and why he does things and for what purpose.
A true worshipper labours hard to get to the first resurrection,he does not have that lay back kind of attitude concerning the scriptures.
And say to him self; oh,God knows,and he will provide,he understands.The so called born again say that they are saved and secured,there is nothing to do,Christ has done it all for us on the cross.All served on a platter,just believe is enough.
A genuine God loving person shows interest in what God has to say in all the bible,not just part. He spends his/her time seeking,and make the word of God his spiritual diet.
Some seek seek but for the wrong reasons.
Not because of the love for God,but for their own gain.We must learn to give God also, not just learn to receive.
Learn, so You can teach and be fruitful,and lead others to God. And God will have you as his faithful servant.To be a true chistian is suffering in this world,because he is not part of this world and therefore hated by this world.
And this is the cross that we have to carry,sometimes abused,and mocked.
The more knowledge the more sorrows.To seek for abundant life now is not the idea,but suffering for the Lord.All the apostles did suffer,Jesus did suffer.
What ever we do,do it for God,in pleasure and in sufferings.wakeup.
True worship is to worship in spirit and in truth John 4:24This requires that we use the spirit that gave to us of Him.
I John 4:13
Speaking by the spirit of God is true worship. Just like the apostles did on the day of Pentecost Acts 2:4
True worship via the spirit is speaking in tongues.
Awesome!
Barley.Speaking in tongues, and healings can be copied by satan,and this has become the common practise.
But the truth can not be copied.
Feeding on the flesh of Christ results in receiving the Holy spirit.The Holy spirit is in the flesh of Christ.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup:Speaking in tongues can be mimiced by the devil, but no, genuine healings cannot be copied. The devil can create an illusion of a healing, but he cannot copy it.
This is what Jesus stated relative to worship:
Quote Jhn 4:20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. Jhn 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
Jhn 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Jhn 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
Jhn 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.
God is a Spirit, and he has said that He is Holy and has said to his children:
Quote 1Pe 1:14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance: 1Pe 1:15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
1Pe 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
God is Love:
Quote 1Jo 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 1Jo 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world
1Jo 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
1Jo 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1Jo 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
1Jo 4:7 ¶ Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
1Jo 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
1Jo 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
1Jo 4:10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son [to be] the propitiation for our sins.
1Jo 4:11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another
Quote Mat 22:36 Master, which [is] the great commandment in the law? Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Quote Jhn 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. Quote Hbr 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. Hbr 11:6 But without faith [it is] impossible to please [him]: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and [that] he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Love in Christ,
MartyDecember 9, 2012 at 2:01 pm#323861WakeupParticipantMarty.
Yes, a copy is never as good as the real thing.
But it can be copied.
Satan appearing as an angel of light is a copy.wakeup.
December 16, 2012 at 3:04 pm#324546barleyParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 05 2012,01:50) barley…………Good to see you back, Hope things are going well for you brother, missed you. peace and love to you and yours………………………………………gene
Thanks!September 23, 2013 at 7:53 pm#358504terrariccaParticipantJn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”IN SPIRIT ;MEANS THAT WHAT WE THINK AS TO TRUTHFUL AND FREE FROM DECEIT,AND SECOND MEANINGS ,THAT OUR YES MEANS YES ,AND NO MEANS NO ,BUT ALL OUR INTENTION SHOULD BE IN LOVE AND THE INTEREST FOR OTHERS BEFORE WE CONSIDER OUR OWN INTEREST ,
IN TRUTH ;MEANS FREE OR LIES ,FREE OF FALSEHOOD ,DECEIT ,SELF INTEREST ,BUT FULL OF LOVE FOR GOD AND OTHERS ,
EACH TIME WE DO NOT DO THOSE THINGS WE HAVE FAILED TO BE TRUTHFUL IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH ;BEFORE GOD ALMIGHTY ,
IT IS BETTER SAY NOTHING THAN SPREADING LIES AND DECEIT ,
IT IS BETTER TO KNOW A FEW TRUTH FROM SCRIPTURES THAN A LOT OF LIES FROM RELIGION ,
IF YOU HAVE STUDY THE SCRIPTURES AND BY THE END OF THE DAY YOU STILL TALK LIKE YOU SOMEONE THAT KNOWS AND USE “I” ME ” YOU HAVEN LEARN NOTHING
September 24, 2013 at 10:09 am#358564WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Sep. 24 2013,06:53) Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”IN SPIRIT ;MEANS THAT WHAT WE THINK AS TO TRUTHFUL AND FREE FROM DECEIT,AND SECOND MEANINGS ,THAT OUR YES MEANS YES ,AND NO MEANS NO ,BUT ALL OUR INTENTION SHOULD BE IN LOVE AND THE INTEREST FOR OTHERS BEFORE WE CONSIDER OUR OWN INTEREST ,
IN TRUTH ;MEANS FREE OR LIES ,FREE OF FALSEHOOD ,DECEIT ,SELF INTEREST ,BUT FULL OF LOVE FOR GOD AND OTHERS ,
EACH TIME WE DO NOT DO THOSE THINGS WE HAVE FAILED TO BE TRUTHFUL IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH ;BEFORE GOD ALMIGHTY ,
IT IS BETTER SAY NOTHING THAN SPREADING LIES AND DECEIT ,
IT IS BETTER TO KNOW A FEW TRUTH FROM SCRIPTURES THAN A LOT OF LIES FROM RELIGION ,
IF YOU HAVE STUDY THE SCRIPTURES AND BY THE END OF THE DAY YOU STILL TALK LIKE YOU SOMEONE THAT KNOWS AND USE “I” ME ” YOU HAVEN LEARN NOTHING
Going around preaching Christ has come already 1900yrs ago
is not worshipping in truth.
Preaching the kingdom has been with us for 2000yrs
now,is not worshipping in truth.
Preaching that there is no tribulation coming as a whole,
but everyone has his own tribulation,is not worshipping in truth.wakeup.
May 6, 2014 at 4:56 am#380775NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
You say
“Feeding on the flesh of Christ results in receiving the Holy spirit”That is another new gospel
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