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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,07:39) Hi TT,
So none say the Son should be worshiped now.
Why do you teach this?
Nick,
Why does the Church's Husband sanctify the wife to present TO HIMSELF?thinker
georg,Oct. wrote:[/quote]
Hi Irene,Did you not say that Jesus always existed? I did not.
You have made me very happy with your latest response. I referred to the scripture’s account of Jesus’ pre-human existence;
you may be blending stories between something I have said and something Katjo has said.If your heart is with the God of the Bible (Jehovah), then we should get along just fine.
I would like to show you something. To say there is nothing remotely resembling the idea of a trinity is unfounded.
This is Not the extent of information, if still interested I will provide more.N.W.T. Matt.28:19: “Go therefore and make disciples of people of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit”;
You must admit that this verse (Matt. 28:19) is where they draw “the trinity idea” from. Even if you choose to ignore what is in the bible
(as it makes NO difference to me), There is evidence to suggest that there may be something to a trinity idea.There are three (3) main Major Prophets in the Bible. The reason they are called Major Prophets is because of the long length of the text. The very meanings of their names illustrate a trinity.
1) Isaiah=47: Isaiah’s name means “Jehovah’s Salvation” (this Prophet illustrates JESUS, because Jesus’ name means “Jehovah’s Savior”)
2) Jeremiah=69: Jeremiah’s name means “Jehovah is High” (this Prophet illustrates GOD THE FATHER, because He, JEHOVAH=69 is the Highest). (Psalm 83:18)
3) Ezekiel=73: Ezekiel’s name means “EL (GOD) will strengthen” (this Prophet illustrates the HOLY SPIRIT, because the Holy Spirit strengthens us all in GOD).
Now here is the kicker (47+ 69+73=63 x 3). This mathematical formula illustrates “YHVH=63” as a Trinity (Meaning 3) using English Gematria.
These facts however do not change my personal belief that “YHVH GOD is One”
May our GOD “YHVH” continue to shine his light in all our lives,
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecodeYHWH the God who became flesh to come into the world to be our Savior. The creator!
Hi KAT,
That is what catholic dogma teaches.
But scripture says the Son of God came.
Which should we choose to believe and uphold?Quote (katjo @ Oct. 26 2009,13:40) YHWH the God who became flesh to come into the world to be our Savior. The creator!
Hi Katjo,GOD’s most sacred Holy Name [הוהי] was given to us directly from the Hebrew language. Correctly translating Hebrew into other languages can be difficult however.
Some basic linguistical rules need to be considered when translating Hebrew texts. These include a lack of spacing between words, as a general rule has no written vowels
and the basic direction in which Hebrew is written (opposite: from right to left). Hebrew word spacing is a modern advent that distinguishes one word from the next,
aiding both translators and multi-linguists alike. Unwritten “implied” vowel sounds are a concern because, correct pronunciations of Hebrew words are at risk.GOD’s Name (יהוה) transliterates directly into English as YHVH because the Hebrew alphabet lacks vowels. Hebrew has No [W] sound, No [J] sound and the symbol ש is pronounced “Sh”.
[הוהי] GOD’s Name [י] Yod [ה] Ha [ו] Vav [ה] Hey YÄ-hä-vā & [הי] YÄ
Strong’s con. Heb. # 3068, 3069 & 3050The “Divine”=63 “Deity”=63 of “The Bible”=63 is “YHVH”=63.
In this me and the JW”s see Eye to Eye.We all have thing we can agree upon; the goal is to find them.
God Bless,
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Ed,
So it is not a personal name but a descriptive one – I AM WHO AM- the Living God.
No other being IS in the same wayQuote (thethinker @ Oct. 24 2009,18:39) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,07:39) Hi TT,
So none say the Son should be worshiped now.
Why do you teach this?
Nick,
Why does the Church's Husband sanctify the wife to present TO HIMSELF?thinker
JackI don't think Nick wants to answer that one!
WJ
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 26 2009,15:40) Hi Ed,
So it is not a personal name but a descriptive one – I AM WHO AM- the Living God.
No other being IS in the same way
Hi Nick.Do you look for ways to disagree with people; I look for ways to agree. I have agreed that your translation of Exodus 3:14 is translated correctly; while the AKJV has this verse translated wrong.
The standardized translation of ‘I am that I am’ can be proven to be wrong; and that the N.W.T. version of the Bible has this phrase (אהיה אשר אהיה) translated correctly.
N.W.T version Exodus 3:14: …“I SHALL PROVE TO BE WHAT I SHALL PROVE TO BE”… Nick: why do your words now even disagree with your own translation?
The AKJV linguists successfully translated the phrase אהיה into “I WILL” hundreds of times in the “Old Testament”. The AKJV translators also [added words]
(which they italicized) to aid in translational differences; they did this practice throughout the bible so as to NOT corrupt it!The AKJV linguists should have translated אהיה אשר אהיה into “I WILL [BE] WHAT I WILL [BE]”; this can be proven! “YHVH=63” and “will be”=63.
Plus the phrase ‘i am’ cannot be translated back into Hebrew; for it ‘i am’ is the product of man.The Hebrew-speaking believe that if the Hebrew Language has no word for it , than it doesn't exist.
The English AKJV Bible is translated directly from the Aramaic text, which says in Daniel…
AKJV Daniel 11:36-38: “And the king will do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god,
and shall speak against the God of Gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished:
for that is determined shall be done. 37: NEITHER SHALL HE REGARD THE GOD OF HIS FATHERS (יהוה האלהים YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL- ō-Hêêm JEHOVAH GOD),
nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.” 38: but in his estate shall he honor the ‘god of forces’ (satan) and ‘a god’
(which is the very subject of this thread!) WHOM HIS FATHERS KNEW NOT ('i am') Shall He Honor With Gold, And Silver, And With Precious Stones And Pleasant Things.If you choose to put 'the product of man' above יהוה האלהים YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL- ō-Hêêm JEHOVAH GOD, that's up to you; I won't.
For me, only “The Truth” will do.
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 26 2009,16:17) Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 24 2009,18:39) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,07:39) Hi TT,
So none say the Son should be worshiped now.
Why do you teach this?
Nick,
Why does the Church's Husband sanctify the wife to present TO HIMSELF?thinker
JackI don't think Nick wants to answer that one!
WJ
Hi TT,
The living stones[1Peter2] are added to the foundation stone of the Son of God to build a temple 2Eph2] for his Father God.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 26 2009,16:17) Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 24 2009,18:39) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,07:39) Hi TT,
So none say the Son should be worshiped now.
Why do you teach this?
Nick,
Why does the Church's Husband sanctify the wife to present TO HIMSELF?thinker
JackI don't think Nick wants to answer that one!
WJ
Keith,
Of course Nick does not want to answer.thinker
Hi TT,
The relationship between Christ and the church is as a perfect husband to his pure wife.
Just as with God and His Son we are one in the Spirit with Christ.Your catholic trinity does not fit with God's beautiful plan.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 26 2009,21:08) Hi TT,
The relationship between Christ and the church is as a perfect husband to his pure wife.
Just as with God and His Son we are one in the Spirit with Christ.Your catholic trinity does not fit with God's beautiful plan.
But Christ makes her holy FOR HIMSELF and not for God. Israel's Husband was her God. So the church's Husband must also be her God.Your forum has been a blessing to me, and I hope others will also feel the same as I do; as more and more of “The Truth” of our Heavenly Father (יהוה) is understood, and believed upon!
God bless you all,
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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