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Quote The world; God called babylon the great the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth.
This is satans city.Rev 18:21 Then a mighty angel picked up a boulder the size of a large millstone and threw it into the sea, and said:
“With such violence
the great city of Babylon will be thrown down,
never to be found again.
Rev 18:22 The music of harpists and musicians, flute players and trumpeters,
will never be heard in you again.
No workman of any trade
will ever be found in you again.
The sound of a millstone
will never be heard in you again.
Rev 18:23 The light of a lamp
will never shine in you again.
The voice of bridegroom and bride
will never be heard in you again.
Your merchants were the world’s great men.
By your magic spell all the nations were led astray.
Rev 18:24 In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints,
and of all who have been killed on the earth.”Rev 17:16 The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.
so to you the harlot and the beast is the same thing
Quote (2besee @ Jan. 24 2013,08:03) Wakeup,
Once I had an insight as I lay in bed thinking and praying and it made everything 'so clear' regarding the Father, the Spirit and Jesus. I was overwhelmed but then only minutes later – it was gone out of my mind and I was so frustrated I wanted to remember it – I had to remember it – but I could not. I prayed and asked that i remember it but i was shown that i have a whole lifetime. So now I learn to 'wait'.
2Besee.Just concentrate on this; that God through his word,
created a sperm,and implanted it in mary's womb.
She conceived.
All things are made by the word,this includes that sperm.
Jesus is truly man;it has to be of the two combination.
Egg and sperm.His father is God.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,05:29) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 24 2013,08:03) Wakeup,
Once I had an insight as I lay in bed thinking and praying and it made everything 'so clear' regarding the Father, the Spirit and Jesus. I was overwhelmed but then only minutes later – it was gone out of my mind and I was so frustrated I wanted to remember it – I had to remember it – but I could not. I prayed and asked that i remember it but i was shown that i have a whole lifetime. So now I learn to 'wait'.
2Besee.Just concentrate on this; that God through his word,
created a sperm,and implanted it in mary's womb.
She conceived.
All things are made by the word,this includes that sperm.
Jesus is truly man;it has to be of the two combination.
Egg and sperm.His father is God.wakeup.
God stopped creating on the end of the six day of creation ,and Christ =the WORD was already created
Ps 49:7 No man can redeem the life of another
or give to God a ransom for him—
Ps 49:8 the ransom for a life is costly,
no payment is ever enough—
Ps 49:9 that he should live on forever
and not see decay.God only begotten son sacrifice could pay for it ,
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2013,12:42) Ps 49:7 No man can redeem the life of another
or give to God a ransom for him—
Ps 49:8 the ransom for a life is costly,
no payment is ever enough—
Ps 49:9 that he should live on forever
and not see decay.
Terraricca, context.Ps.49
[0] To the choirmaster. A Psalm of the Sons of Korah.
[1] Hear this, all peoples!
Give ear, all inhabitants of the world,
[2] both low and high,
rich and poor together!
[3] My mouth shall speak wisdom;
the meditation of my heart shall be understanding.
[4] I will incline my ear to a proverb;
I will solve my riddle to the music of the lyre.
[5] Why should I fear in times of trouble,
when the iniquity of my persecutors surrounds me,
[6] men who trust in their wealth
and boast of the abundance of their riches?
[7] Truly no man can ransom himself,
or give to God the price of his life,
[8] for the ransom of his life is costly,
and can never suffice,
[9] that he should continue to live on for ever,
and never see the Pit.
[10] Yea, he shall see that even the wise die,
the fool and the stupid alike must perish
and leave their wealth to others.
[11] Their graves are their homes for ever,
their dwelling places to all generations,
though they named lands their own.
[12] Man cannot abide in his pomp,
he is like the beasts that perish.
[13] This is the fate of those who have foolish confidence,
the end of those who are pleased with their portion. [Selah]
[14] Like sheep they are appointed for Sheol;
Death shall be their shepherd;
straight to the grave they descend,
and their form shall waste away;
Sheol shall be their home.
[15] But God will ransom my soul from the power of Sheol,
for he will receive me. [Selah]
[16] Be not afraid when one becomes rich,
when the glory of his house increases.
[17] For when he dies he will carry nothing away;
his glory will not go down after him.
[18] Though, while he lives, he counts himself happy,
and though a man gets praise when he does well for himself,
[19] he will go to the generation of his fathers,
who will never more see the light.
[20] Man cannot abide in his pomp,
he is like the beasts that perish.Quote (2besee @ Jan. 24 2013,06:02) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2013,12:42) Ps 49:7 No man can redeem the life of another
or give to God a ransom for him—
Ps 49:8 the ransom for a life is costly,
no payment is ever enough—
Ps 49:9 that he should live on forever
and not see decay.
Terraricca, context.Ps.49
[0] To the choirmaster. A Psalm of the Sons of Korah.
[1] Hear this, all peoples!
Give ear, all inhabitants of the world,
[2] both low and high,
rich and poor together!
[3] My mouth shall speak wisdom;
the meditation of my heart shall be understanding.
[4] I will incline my ear to a proverb;
I will solve my riddle to the music of the lyre.
[5] Why should I fear in times of trouble,
when the iniquity of my persecutors surrounds me,
[6] men who trust in their wealth
and boast of the abundance of their riches?
[7] Truly no man can ransom himself,
or give to God the price of his life,
[8] for the ransom of his life is costly,
and can never suffice,
[9] that he should continue to live on for ever,
and never see the Pit.
[10] Yea, he shall see that even the wise die,
the fool and the stupid alike must perish
and leave their wealth to others.
[11] Their graves are their homes for ever,
their dwelling places to all generations,
though they named lands their own.
[12] Man cannot abide in his pomp,
he is like the beasts that perish.
[13] This is the fate of those who have foolish confidence,
the end of those who are pleased with their portion. [Selah]
[14] Like sheep they are appointed for Sheol;
Death shall be their shepherd;
straight to the grave they descend,
and their form shall waste away;
Sheol shall be their home.
[15] But God will ransom my soul from the power of Sheol,
for he will receive me. [Selah]
[16] Be not afraid when one becomes rich,
when the glory of his house increases.
[17] For when he dies he will carry nothing away;
his glory will not go down after him.
[18] Though, while he lives, he counts himself happy,
and though a man gets praise when he does well for himself,
[19] he will go to the generation of his fathers,
who will never more see the light.
[20] Man cannot abide in his pomp,
he is like the beasts that perish.
2beeand what
context do you really think you can change the meaning of those verses with the context try and seeQuote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,12:20) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 24 2013,07:58) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 23 2013,20:25) 2Besee. The two witnesses will be in Jerusalem for 3/half years.
Rev,11:3.8.
Your suspicious mind is good in one way, but if you are presented with scriptures ,and still will not believe,you will never get ahead.You will stay where you are.wakeup.
Wakeup, anybody can present scriptures. It is the spirit of truth that leads us into truth and this can only be done by God and not by man if we are searching. If we believe men then we may as well believe all of the writings of the “early church fathers” who were mixing Greek philosophy with truth.Truth can only come in God's time.
2Besee.We can lead them through the scriptures,for they need the elders to lead,and teach.
The apostles did the same,and they are men.wakeup.
I guess what I am trying to say is that: I do not believe that any one person can have the absolute truth (Jesus aside) due to many reasons.
Also, truth can be mingled with error. Quite a few times I have heard something that I consider to be truth realities though they may be mingled in with error.
To be humble is to say that we do not know it all, it is to say 'teach me' but it is also to be wise through God as to truth and error, we can learn how to test the spirits.
We have to listen sometimes. an example, I was speaking to a child aged seven, and we were talking about God. The child had not been indoctrinated. I listen carefully and pondered some of the things that He said,Of course that does not mean that we have to waste out time listening to everyone!
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2013,10:42) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,05:29) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 24 2013,08:03) Wakeup,
Once I had an insight as I lay in bed thinking and praying and it made everything 'so clear' regarding the Father, the Spirit and Jesus. I was overwhelmed but then only minutes later – it was gone out of my mind and I was so frustrated I wanted to remember it – I had to remember it – but I could not. I prayed and asked that i remember it but i was shown that i have a whole lifetime. So now I learn to 'wait'.
2Besee.Just concentrate on this; that God through his word,
created a sperm,and implanted it in mary's womb.
She conceived.
All things are made by the word,this includes that sperm.
Jesus is truly man;it has to be of the two combination.
Egg and sperm.His father is God.wakeup.
God stopped creating on the end of the six day of creation ,and Christ =the WORD was already created
Ps 49:7 No man can redeem the life of another
or give to God a ransom for him—
Ps 49:8 the ransom for a life is costly,
no payment is ever enough—
Ps 49:9 that he should live on forever
and not see decay.God only begotten son sacrifice could pay for it ,
Terra.What are you really saying?
Is not his father God? Yes,his Father is God.
Is he not real man? Yes,real man,true man.
Is he some hybrid? No.
Did a man die on the cross? Yes,a true man.
Did some hybrid die on the cross? NO.What is a real man? A combination of a real sperm, and a real human egg.
Any other combinations is not a genuine human person.Spirit angels producing children with humans,they are called Nephillims.Not true humans. They are hybrids.Anyone agree? disagree?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,13:12) Terra. What are you really saying?
Is not his father God? Yes,his Father is God.
Is he not real man? Yes,real man,true man.
Is he some hybrid? No.
Did a man die on the cross? Yes,a true man.
Did some hybrid die on the cross? NO.What is a real man? A combination of a real sperm, and a real human egg.
Any other combinations is not a genuine human person.Spirit angels producing children with humans,they are called Nephillims.Not true humans. They are hybrids.Anyone agree? disagree?
wakeup.
Wakeup, perhaps.Quote (2besee @ Jan. 24 2013,11:10) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,12:20) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 24 2013,07:58) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 23 2013,20:25) 2Besee. The two witnesses will be in Jerusalem for 3/half years.
Rev,11:3.8.
Your suspicious mind is good in one way, but if you are presented with scriptures ,and still will not believe,you will never get ahead.You will stay where you are.wakeup.
Wakeup, anybody can present scriptures. It is the spirit of truth that leads us into truth and this can only be done by God and not by man if we are searching. If we believe men then we may as well believe all of the writings of the “early church fathers” who were mixing Greek philosophy with truth.Truth can only come in God's time.
2Besee.We can lead them through the scriptures,for they need the elders to lead,and teach.
The apostles did the same,and they are men.wakeup.
I guess what I am trying to say is that: I do not believe that any one person can have the absolute truth (Jesus aside) due to many reasons.
Also, truth can be mingled with error. Quite a few times I have heard something that I consider to be truth realities though they may be mingled in with error.
To be humble is to say that we do not know it all, it is to say 'teach me' but it is also to be wise through God as to truth and error, we can learn how to test the spirits.
We have to listen sometimes. an example, I was speaking to a child aged seven, and we were talking about God. The child had not been indoctrinated. I listen carefully and pondered some of the things that He said,Of course that does not mean that we have to waste out time listening to everyone!
2BEsee.Do you consider the apostles not well informed in the truth?
Did not the Holy spirit gave them all the knowledge?
Any man can find the whole truth ,if he seeks diligently.
The Holy spirit will take care of that,although not in one go,but measure upon measure.Errors made can be corrected using the scriptures.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,06:12) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2013,10:42) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,05:29) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 24 2013,08:03) Wakeup,
Once I had an insight as I lay in bed thinking and praying and it made everything 'so clear' regarding the Father, the Spirit and Jesus. I was overwhelmed but then only minutes later – it was gone out of my mind and I was so frustrated I wanted to remember it – I had to remember it – but I could not. I prayed and asked that i remember it but i was shown that i have a whole lifetime. So now I learn to 'wait'.
2Besee.Just concentrate on this; that God through his word,
created a sperm,and implanted it in mary's womb.
She conceived.
All things are made by the word,this includes that sperm.
Jesus is truly man;it has to be of the two combination.
Egg and sperm.His father is God.wakeup.
God stopped creating on the end of the six day of creation ,and Christ =the WORD was already created
Ps 49:7 No man can redeem the life of another
or give to God a ransom for him—
Ps 49:8 the ransom for a life is costly,
no payment is ever enough—
Ps 49:9 that he should live on forever
and not see decay.God only begotten son sacrifice could pay for it ,
Terra.What are you really saying?
Is not his father God? Yes,his Father is God.
Is he not real man? Yes,real man,true man.
Is he some hybrid? No.
Did a man die on the cross? Yes,a true man.
Did some hybrid die on the cross? NO.What is a real man? A combination of a real sperm, and a real human egg.
Any other combinations is not a genuine human person.Spirit angels producing children with humans,they are called Nephillims.Not true humans. They are hybrids.Anyone agree? disagree?
wakeup.
wupI disagree on your proposal ,
to me Christ ,his THE WORD OF GOD ,and he came down from being with his father who SEND HIM to become covered with flesh ,so that he could PAY THE RANSOM AND SO REDEEM HIS FUTURE BROTHERS THAT WOULD BE WITH HIM AT HIS TABLE IN HIS KINGDOM (144K) Abraham ,Jacob and….included
this is why Christ says ;JN 15:13 “ Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends,
JN 10:15 even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.
JAS 2:23 and the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “AND ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS,” and he was called the friend of God.
JN 6:51 “ I am the living bread that came down out of heaven
JN 6:58 “This is the bread which came down out of heaven; not as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live forever.”
Jn 20:17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father.
look at Jn 20;17 it says that he ad not yet returned to his father —- what this mean other that he came from his father and that he ad not yet return sins he came down as born of Mary,
Jn 17:8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me.
Jn 17:4 I have brought you glory on earth by completing the work you gave me to do.
Jn 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world beganCol 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,
Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.all the above are my reasons of disagreeing with you
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,13:51) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 24 2013,11:10) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,12:20) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 24 2013,07:58) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 23 2013,20:25) 2Besee. The two witnesses will be in Jerusalem for 3/half years.
Rev,11:3.8.
Your suspicious mind is good in one way, but if you are presented with scriptures ,and still will not believe,you will never get ahead.You will stay where you are.wakeup.
Wakeup, anybody can present scriptures. It is the spirit of truth that leads us into truth and this can only be done by God and not by man if we are searching. If we believe men then we may as well believe all of the writings of the “early church fathers” who were mixing Greek philosophy with truth.Truth can only come in God's time.
2Besee.We can lead them through the scriptures,for they need the elders to lead,and teach.
The apostles did the same,and they are men.wakeup.
I guess what I am trying to say is that: I do not believe that any one person can have the absolute truth (Jesus aside) due to many reasons.
Also, truth can be mingled with error. Quite a few times I have heard something that I consider to be truth realities though they may be mingled in with error.
To be humble is to say that we do not know it all, it is to say 'teach me' but it is also to be wise through God as to truth and error, we can learn how to test the spirits.
We have to listen sometimes. an example, I was speaking to a child aged seven, and we were talking about God. The child had not been indoctrinated. I listen carefully and pondered some of the things that He said,Of course that does not mean that we have to waste out time listening to everyone!
2BEsee.Do you consider the apostles not well informed in the truth?
Did not the Holy spirit gave them all the knowledge?
Any man can find the whole truth ,if he seeks diligently.
The Holy spirit will take care of that,although not in one go,but measure upon measure.Errors made can be corrected using the scriptures.
wakeup.
Wakeup, I agree with you but I also believe that today it is more difficult than it was in the time of the Disciples.For example….. I disagree with some of the things that you believe to be truth, and with some things that you post I completely agree.
Quote (2besee @ Jan. 24 2013,13:16) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,13:51) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 24 2013,11:10) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,12:20) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 24 2013,07:58) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 23 2013,20:25) 2Besee. The two witnesses will be in Jerusalem for 3/half years.
Rev,11:3.8.
Your suspicious mind is good in one way, but if you are presented with scriptures ,and still will not believe,you will never get ahead.You will stay where you are.wakeup.
Wakeup, anybody can present scriptures. It is the spirit of truth that leads us into truth and this can only be done by God and not by man if we are searching. If we believe men then we may as well believe all of the writings of the “early church fathers” who were mixing Greek philosophy with truth.Truth can only come in God's time.
2Besee.We can lead them through the scriptures,for they need the elders to lead,and teach.
The apostles did the same,and they are men.wakeup.
I guess what I am trying to say is that: I do not believe that any one person can have the absolute truth (Jesus aside) due to many reasons.
Also, truth can be mingled with error. Quite a few times I have heard something that I consider to be truth realities though they may be mingled in with error.
To be humble is to say that we do not know it all, it is to say 'teach me' but it is also to be wise through God as to truth and error, we can learn how to test the spirits.
We have to listen sometimes. an example, I was speaking to a child aged seven, and we were talking about God. The child had not been indoctrinated. I listen carefully and pondered some of the things that He said,Of course that does not mean that we have to waste out time listening to everyone!
2BEsee.Do you consider the apostles not well informed in the truth?
Did not the Holy spirit gave them all the knowledge?
Any man can find the whole truth ,if he seeks diligently.
The Holy spirit will take care of that,although not in one go,but measure upon measure.Errors made can be corrected using the scriptures.
wakeup.
Wakeup, I agree with you but I also believe that today it is more difficult than it was in the time of the Disciples.For example….. I disagree with some of the things that you believe to be truth, and with some things that you post I completely agree.
2Besee.Thats fine ,but state why you disagree,use scriptures.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,05:29) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 24 2013,08:03) Wakeup,
Once I had an insight as I lay in bed thinking and praying and it made everything 'so clear' regarding the Father, the Spirit and Jesus. I was overwhelmed but then only minutes later – it was gone out of my mind and I was so frustrated I wanted to remember it – I had to remember it – but I could not. I prayed and asked that i remember it but i was shown that i have a whole lifetime. So now I learn to 'wait'.
2Besee.Just concentrate on this; that God through his word,
created a sperm,and implanted it in mary's womb.
She conceived.
All things are made by the word,this includes that sperm.
Jesus is truly man;it has to be of the two combination.
Egg and sperm.His father is God.wakeup.
Wakeup,Sperm is not required for conception to occur.
Parthenogenesis is when a female conceives without a male sperm. God does it for certain creatures fairly often. I have heard of one human chimera that started out as a child of parthenogenesis and a child of fusion.
Those born of parthenogenesis are female in gender and pretty much identical to their mother and so genetic modification is necessary to have an issue that is male.
Jehovah has both the knowledge and power to do these things.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 24 2013,10:05) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,05:29) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 24 2013,08:03) Wakeup,
Once I had an insight as I lay in bed thinking and praying and it made everything 'so clear' regarding the Father, the Spirit and Jesus. I was overwhelmed but then only minutes later – it was gone out of my mind and I was so frustrated I wanted to remember it – I had to remember it – but I could not. I prayed and asked that i remember it but i was shown that i have a whole lifetime. So now I learn to 'wait'.
2Besee.Just concentrate on this; that God through his word,
created a sperm,and implanted it in mary's womb.
She conceived.
All things are made by the word,this includes that sperm.
Jesus is truly man;it has to be of the two combination.
Egg and sperm.His father is God.wakeup.
Wakeup,Sperm is not required for conception to occur.
Parthenogenesis is when a female conceives without a male sperm. God does it for certain creatures fairly often. I have heard of one human chimera that started out as a child of parthenogenesis and a child of fusion.
Those born of parthenogenesis are female in gender and pretty much identical to their mother and so genetic modification is necessary to have an issue that is male.
Jehovah has both the knowledge and power to do these things.
KPlease would you be so kind to show one event were it took actually place in realality. In human
Like showing the women and the child ok???
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 24 2013,15:05) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,05:29) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 24 2013,08:03) Wakeup,
Once I had an insight as I lay in bed thinking and praying and it made everything 'so clear' regarding the Father, the Spirit and Jesus. I was overwhelmed but then only minutes later – it was gone out of my mind and I was so frustrated I wanted to remember it – I had to remember it – but I could not. I prayed and asked that i remember it but i was shown that i have a whole lifetime. So now I learn to 'wait'.
2Besee.Just concentrate on this; that God through his word,
created a sperm,and implanted it in mary's womb.
She conceived.
All things are made by the word,this includes that sperm.
Jesus is truly man;it has to be of the two combination.
Egg and sperm.His father is God.wakeup.
Wakeup,Sperm is not required for conception to occur.
Parthenogenesis is when a female conceives without a male sperm. God does it for certain creatures fairly often. I have heard of one human chimera that started out as a child of parthenogenesis and a child of fusion.
Those born of parthenogenesis are female in gender and pretty much identical to their mother and so genetic modification is necessary to have an issue that is male.
Jehovah has both the knowledge and power to do these things.
Kerwin.That maybe,but I still think that God would have done it the natural way;just as all of us;how we were conceived in the womb. dont you think?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,16:12) 2Besee. Thats fine ,but state why you disagree,use scriptures.
wakeup.
Wakeup, I have!!Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 24 2013,12:29) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 24 2013,08:03) Wakeup,
Once I had an insight as I lay in bed thinking and praying and it made everything 'so clear' regarding the Father, the Spirit and Jesus. I was overwhelmed but then only minutes later – it was gone out of my mind and I was so frustrated I wanted to remember it – I had to remember it – but I could not. I prayed and asked that i remember it but i was shown that i have a whole lifetime. So now I learn to 'wait'.
2Besee.Just concentrate on this; that God through his word,
created a sperm,and implanted it in mary's womb.
She conceived.
All things are made by the word,this includes that sperm.
Jesus is truly man;it has to be of the two combination.
Egg and sperm.His father is God.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,
The insight that i had that night which I then could not remember in which I was frustrated that i could not remember, was to do with the Father in Heaven on His throne and Jesus, and the connection to us on earth. Whatever it was made PERFECT SENSE! — I could not believe it, I was so excited. But then the more that I tried to remember it… it was gone. And then God showed me that it will come again, piece by piece, in time. Perhaps a long time.Anyway just saying
2Besee.
What did God say to his Son?
Sit in my righ hand *UNTILL* I MAKE YOUR ENEMIES YOUR FOOT STOOL.
So; what is God working on today?
He is working on bringing Jesus enemies to his footstool.He is manoeuvring his enemies into position,ready for the coming,and to be destroyed.
wakeup.
2besee…………I would like to know how old you are brother, I am 71 1/2 years old. I believe you to have the Spirit of Truth, by your preceptions and logic. Not saying you or I have all truth because i know as Paul said we see in part and we are looking through as it were an obscure glass. But none the less your core beliefs are sound. I believe Kerwin's is also. IMO
peace and love to you and your…………………………………………gene
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