Was Jesus Created?

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  • #290738
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2012,14:57)
    Wisdom is personalized as the daughter of God in order to make her easier to relate to and to make the words about her more interesting.


    No it's not.

    #290752
    kerwin
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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 08 2012,03:00)

    Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2012,14:57)
    Wisdom is personalized as the daughter of God in order to make her easier to relate to and to make the words about her more interesting.


    No it's not.


    Mike,

    Do you know what I mean by personification?

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    Everyone knows what a person is, but do you know what personification is? Personification is when you assign the qualities of a person to something that isn't human or, in some cases, to something that isn't even alive. There are many reasons for using personification. It can be used as a method of describing something so that others can understand. It can be used to emphasize a point. It is a commonly favored literary tool, and you may in fact use personification without even knowing it.

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    Here's a quick review of the personification from the fifty sentences aboves. The subject being personified is underlined. The human trait assigned to the subject is in bold.

    1. The stars danced playfully in the moonlit sky.
    2. The run down house appeared depressed.
    3. The first rays of morning tiptoed through the meadow.
    4. She did not realize that opportunity was knocking at her door.
    5. He did not realize that his last chance was walking out the door.

    I know your verbal skills are weak but I seem to remember that you believe Wisdom is the preexistant Christ.  So it is possible you object to the gender and my stating that Wisdom personified is not necessary an actual person.  If that is your objection then let it be known and put forth the supporting evidence.

    Here is the source of my quotes.

    #290785
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ April 08 2012,07:57)

    Quote (jammin @ April 07 2012,20:20)

    Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2012,18:47)

    Quote (jammin @ April 07 2012,13:07)
    LOL

    that is just your opinion. read your term daughter of GOD boy.
    i dont need your opinion.

    i do not believe to a story teller like you kerwin. LOL


    Jammin,

    It is not an opinion as “even a child is known by whether their conduct is right”.

    Wisdom is clearly personified in Scripture as a female through which all that is created was created; which makes her the first born daughter of God; provided there is not another daughter that role goes to.

    You either agree with Scripture or not.


    do not explain kerwin
    i want you to read your term daughter of God in prov 7.4

    can you read it or not?


    Jammin,

    I explain so that one, like you, that can not add one and get two; learns simple math.    You currently lack reasoning skills but I persevere in the hope you will choose to learn.

    Stop denying; that Scripture calls Wisdom a she and declares that all that has been created was created through her.

    Wisdom is personalized as the daughter of God in order to make her easier to relate to and to make the words about her more interesting.

    That does not make her an actual person; but only a tool used to teach.


    then read it kerwin in prov 7.4 that it says daughter of God.
    i do not need your explanation. if you cant read then you btter stop talking. you should be ashamed of yourself.

    #290788
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 08 2012,02:51)

    Quote (jammin @ April 07 2012,08:19)
    edj,

    there are 3 persons but one in nature, GOD.

    that's what the bible says.


    Where does the Bible say that?


    mat 3
    16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he came up out of the water. Then heaven opened, and he saw God's Spirit coming down on him like a dove.17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love, and I am very pleased with him.”

    how many persons are there in the verses mike?

    #290795
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Jammin,
    PERSONS are from the daft minds of theologians.
    Where is the word in the verse?

    The Spirit is as the FINGER of God.

    Lk11.20/Mt 12.28

    #290796
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Jammin,
    The man Jesus of Nazareth was not God.
    But by the anointing of the Spirit he became the Word.

    The Word was made flesh in him

    #290804
    jammin
    Participant

    nick ,

    you said:but by the anointing of the spirit “HE BECAME THE WORD”

    read the bible well. you should wear eyeglasses. your words are not written in the bible.
    i do not like story teller . sorry, you may find other person who does not know how to read the bible to believe you.

    #290844
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ April 08 2012,10:07)

    Quote (kerwin @ April 08 2012,07:57)

    Quote (jammin @ April 07 2012,20:20)

    Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2012,18:47)

    Quote (jammin @ April 07 2012,13:07)
    LOL

    that is just your opinion. read your term daughter of GOD boy.
    i dont need your opinion.

    i do not believe to a story teller like you kerwin. LOL


    Jammin,

    It is not an opinion as “even a child is known by whether their conduct is right”.

    Wisdom is clearly personified in Scripture as a female through which all that is created was created; which makes her the first born daughter of God; provided there is not another daughter that role goes to.

    You either agree with Scripture or not.


    do not explain kerwin
    i want you to read your term daughter of God in prov 7.4

    can you read it or not?


    Jammin,

    I explain so that one, like you, that can not add one and get two; learns simple math.    You currently lack reasoning skills but I persevere in the hope you will choose to learn.

    Stop denying; that Scripture calls Wisdom a she and declares that all that has been created was created through her.

    Wisdom is personalized as the daughter of God in order to make her easier to relate to and to make the words about her more interesting.

    That does not make her an actual person; but only a tool used to teach.


    then read it kerwin in prov 7.4 that it says daughter of God.
    i do not need your explanation. if you cant read then you btter stop talking. you should be ashamed of yourself.


    Jammin,

    Do you know what I mean by personification?

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    Everyone knows what a person is, but do you know what personification is? Personification is when you assign the qualities of a person to something that isn't human or, in some cases, to something that isn't even alive. There are many reasons for using personification. It can be used as a method of describing something so that others can understand. It can be used to emphasize a point. It is a commonly favored literary tool, and you may in fact use personification without even knowing it.

    Quote
    Here's a quick review of the personification from the fifty sentences above. The subject being personified is underlined. The human trait assigned to the subject is in bold.

    1. The stars danced playfully in the moonlit sky.
    2. The run down house appeared depressed.
    3. The first rays of morning tiptoed through the meadow.
    4. She did not realize that opportunity was knocking at her door.
    5. He did not realize that his last chance was walking out the door.

    Here is the source of my quotes.

    #290849
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ April 08 2012,19:13)
    nick ,

    you said:but by the anointing of the spirit “HE BECAME THE WORD”

    read the bible well. you should wear eyeglasses. your words are not written in the bible.
    i do not like story teller . sorry, you may find other person who does not know how to read the bible to believe you.


    Jammin,

    From our conversation I doubt you are very proficient in reading comprehension. You therefore do not comprehend what is written in Scripture and are too insecure or embarrassed to rectify the situation.

    Your doctrine is the untruths of the ignorant.  The real teaching of Christ is water and food for the soul that hungers and thirsts to be righteous as God is righteous.  Such a soul is blessed; even as Jesus has been saying.

    Your teaching is not that food and drink or you would know what the Word is.

    God spoke the Word to Abraham; and he believed.

    #290914
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Hi,

    Jesus became deity at birth, He was the only BORN, Son of God.
    He become God in flesh at the Jordan.

    God Bless
    Marlin

    #290917
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi M,
    Not at conception in Mary then??

    #290925
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

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    Not at conception in Mary then??

    Yes, Jesus was deity when God place the Blood cell in Mary..

    God Bless
    Marlin

    #290935
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi M,
    Did He?
    Is it written?
    God was his father but
    Jesus was a man born of Mary

    #290944
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2012,19:10)
    Hi M,
    Did He?
    Is it written?
    God was his father but
    Jesus was a man born of Mary


    hi

    does God need help from men ????

    Mary was a surrogate mother, God provided a full living being

    #290961
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    We have had this talk,  in this I agree with Pierre.  I am sure not for the same reasons, but just the same I agree with him.

    Of course He was born of Mary,  she had Him.

    Jesus did not come as part of Mary.  He came without sin, NONE.  
    If He had been part of Mary then the above statement is false.

    The same as God created the first Adam, He created the second Adam.

    Not because Jesus was another being that emptied Himself out, no no.  But because God became the sinless lamb to be slain.  He created His own son, SON OF GOD, deity.  And then He came down and dwelled in Him.

    God Bless
    Marlin

    #290966
    terraricca
    Participant

    Not because Jesus was another being that emptied Himself out, no no. But because God became the sinless lamb to be slain. He created His own son, SON OF GOD, deity. And then He came down and dwelled in Him.

    God Bless
    Marlin

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    this is so false ,i would not even try to argue against it ,if you can not see that only truth that Jesus is not his father then please ignore me I will not have anything to do with you ,

    #290982
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    Not because Jesus was another being that emptied Himself out, no no.  But because God became the sinless lamb to be slain.  He created His own son, SON OF GOD, deity.  And then He came down and dwelled in Him.

    God Bless
    Marlin

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    this is so false ,i would not even try to argue against it ,if you can not see that only truth that Jesus is not his father then please ignore me I will not have anything to do with you ,

    See, I said not for the same reasons as you.  You can not read where I said Jesus was His Father.  In fact, I said Jesus was created by His Father.  Which He was.

    If a king has a son, what is the son to the king.  He is a prince, deity.
    God had a son, deity.  And then God came at the Jordon and dwelled in that son, reconciling the world to Himself.

    Man tries to make it so complicated, but it is so simple a child could understand.

    God Bless
    Marlin

    #290994
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ April 09 2012,20:50)

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    Not because Jesus was another being that emptied Himself out, no no.  But because God became the sinless lamb to be slain.  He created His own son, SON OF GOD, deity.  And then He came down and dwelled in Him.

    God Bless
    Marlin

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    this is so false ,i would not even try to argue against it ,if you can not see that only truth that Jesus is not his father then please ignore me I will not have anything to do with you ,

    See, I said not for the same reasons as you.  You can not read where I said Jesus was His Father.  In fact, I said Jesus was created by His Father.  Which He was.

    If a king has a son, what is the son to the king.  He is a prince, deity.
    God had a son, deity.  And then God came at the Jordon and dwelled in that son, reconciling the world to Himself.

    Man tries to make it so complicated, but it is so simple a child could understand.

    God Bless
    Marlin


    M

    everything is simple to the ones who knows,

    your explanation is so vague and so do not know were you going with it ,

    so could you detail more of what i suppose to not understand

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    See, I said not for the same reasons as you.  You can not read where I said Jesus was His Father.  In fact, I said Jesus was created by His Father.  Which He was.

    what this mean ????I do not like to play hide and seek

    #291005
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ April 09 2012,12:21)
    Mary was a surrogate mother


    Scripture Please?

    #291006
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ April 09 2012,12:46)
    Hi Nick,

    We have had this talk,  in this I agree with Pierre.  I am sure not for the same reasons, but just the same I agree with him.

    Of course He was born of Mary,  she had Him.

    Jesus did not come as part of Mary.  He came without sin, NONE.  
    If He had been part of Mary then the above statement is false.

    The same as God created the first Adam, He created the second Adam.

    Not because Jesus was another being that emptied Himself out, no no.  But because God became the sinless lamb to be slain.  He created His own son, SON OF GOD, deity.  And then He came down and dwelled in Him.

    God Bless
    Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    “The Word” became flesh at Jordan.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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